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Cucumbers in South Florida?!

Posted by Stellabee 10 (My Page) on
Tue, Jan 4, 11 at 15:23

Hi Everybody!
I just moved to South Florida, and have started a small vegetable garden. I tried to grow Sumter and Marketmore organic cucumbers, but they haven't done very well like they did back home in Atlanta. They've really struggled actually being that they didn't produce much and even died quite quickly.

Does anyone on this forum grow cucumber in South Florida successfully? If so, I'd love to know what varieties and any tips!

Thanks!
Stellabee


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RE: Cucumbers in South Florida?!

These are cucumbers' enemies:

1. Hot or cold temperatures- You have to plant at the right time of year.

2. Disease: Particularly powder mildew. You can plant a resistant variety and spray anti-fungals to prevent this. Good air circulation is also important.

3. Nematodes and/or poor soil fertility. Our sand is not the favorite of cucumbers. Grow in containers or raised beds with good loose soil.

4. Insects- Lots. My least favorite is the pickelworm.

Do you think one of these may be your cucumber killer?


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RE: Cucumbers in South Florida?!

Stellabee,

Try one or all of these cucumbers. They are parthenocarpic
(do not need pollinating) and are bred for resistance to our
Florida problems. Plant them in large pots and use a potting
mix and a trellis because of Florida's nematodes living in the
sandy soil. This should help eliminate some of your cuke
growing problems.

Diva Hybrid Cucumber (Park 5516)

The Most Delicious Burpless Cuke Yet!
Heavy-yielding plants resist just about every pest and disease!
58 days from sowing, 32 days from transplants. Diva is simply
delectable, with thin, tender skin, crisp flesh, and a flavor
that combines sweetness with a genuine cucumber bite impossible
to find in the bland supermarket varieties today. It arises very
abundantly on vigorous, disease-resistant plants, giving you a
huge crop of the finest burpless cucumber I have tasted in a
long time! No wonder it was a 2002 All America Selection!
These 6- to 8-inch-long cukes look as good as they taste.
Spineless and forest-green, they are plump, well-shaped, and
packed with crunchy texture and sweet flavor. Don't even think
about peeling the semi-glossy skin -- it's thin, tasty, and full
of nutrition! Diva is parthenocarpic -- it needs no pollinator
to flower and fruit -- and is renowned for its big yields. We
recommend harvesting the fruit before it reaches maximum size.
the smaller cukes are especially succulent! Despite her name,
Diva is no temperamental star but a rough-and-ready garden
performer, tolerant of Scab, Powdery Mildew, Downy Mildew, and
Angular Leaf Spot. The vining plant reaches 5 to 6 feet tall
and 1 to 2 feet wide, with very prolific fruit over a good season.
Burpless cucumbers are known for their tasty, non-astringent flesh,
small seed cavity, and crisp, thin skin that never needs peeling.
They are premium cukes for eating fresh. Direct-sow seeds in a
sunny spot after all danger of frost is past or start indoors and
transplant when the first true leaf appears. Cucumbers can be
allowed to grow on the ground, but for longer, straighter fruit
and to save garden space, grow them in a cage or on a trellis,
allowing 1 foot between plants. Keep them well watered and keep
the fruits picked promptly. Pkt is 30 seeds.

Cool Breeze Hybrid Cucumber (Jung 02013)

An outstanding French Cornichon pickling cucumber.
Sets fruit without cross pollination, a term called
parthenocarpic, resulting in early yields and buckets
of fruit under just about any reasonable growing
condition. The dark green cukes are smooth with fine
white spines, at their best when harvested at 4 to 5
inches, and will be seedless unless grown near other
cucumbers. They make excellent pickles and have great
crunchy sweet flavor for eating fresh. Strong,
vigorous plants are very disease resistant. Can also
be grown in a greenhouse for a winter cucumber treat.

Diamant Hybrid Cucumber (Jung 02014)

A disease resistant pickler with great taste. This
early ripening cuke has crisp texture and fresh,
mild flavor that's a delight for both fresh eating
and pickling. The dark green 4 to 5 inch fruits are
nearly smooth with barely noticeable spines. Space
saving, compact plants are parthenocarpic, so they
don't require pollination to set fruit. Their
resistance to downy and powdery mildew, cucumber
mosaic virus and cucumber scab keeps them bearing
all summer. Yields are amazing.

Iznik Hybrid Cucumber (Jung 02019)

A gourmet mini-cuke from Germany. Thin-skinned,
smooth, crisp cucumbers are prime when harvested at
3 to 4 inches. Short-vined plants have small leaves
and, because they are parthenocarpic (do not require
pollination to set fruit), they are extremely high
yielding even under adverse conditions or without bee
activity. Grows well in containers, trellis gardens,
greenhouses and regular gardens. Great used fresh or
for pickles.

Amour Hybrid Cucumber (Jung s02013)

Recommended as a substitute for Cool Breeze Hybrid
Cucumber. A parthenocarpic variety producing extra
early yields of spiny, 4 to 5 inch dark green fruit
perfect for fresh use and pickling.

Lou


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RE: Cucumbers in South Florida?!

Thanks Lou, you just cost me $19.05, seeds ordered. I too have one heck of a time with cucs, squash,or mellons, powery mildew, aphids or white flys one or the other is a real problem. Im gona try again.
Plant em if you got em.
Sam


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RE: Cucumbers in South Florida?!

Tip O' the Day- Johnny's had Diamant on sale a couple of weeks ago when I ordered from them. I think the seeds were $1 or $2.


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RE: Cucumbers in South Florida?!

Suddensam,

With my heated greenhouse tents I try to grow veggies year
round when there are no bees to pollinate the crops. That's
why I was very interested when Tom led me to the varieties
of parthenocarpic veggies. They also have zucchinis. They
are working on a yellow summer squash, but it's in field
test stage right now (soon to be released).

Perfect Pick Hybrid Zucchini (Jung 03561)

Just about the most perfect zucchini you can grow!
This superb summer squash has the unique feature of
being parthenocarpic, it doesn't require pollination
by insects to set fruit. As a result, it produces
high yields even when weather conditions aren't
favorable. It can even be grown under row covers or
in greenhouses successfully. The fruits are very high
quality with glossy dark green skin and nearly seedless
flesh that has excellent flavor. Optimum picking size
is when fruits are 6 to 8 inches long.

Caveli Hybrid Zucchini (Jung 03526)

The light green partner to our popular Perfect Pick
Hybrid! Caveli is also parthenocarpic and has all
the great qualities of Perfect Pick, but has light
green, tender skin and nearly seedless white flesh
with outstanding flavor. The leaves of the bushy
plants are curiously mottled with light green, making
them almost ornamental. If you like Perfect Pick,
you'll love Caveli.

Sure Thing Zucchini Hybrid (Burpee 54841A).

This Burpee zucchini bears fruit early in cool, cloudy
conditions even when there are no bees or male flowers
around. Its medium-size fruits are long and very tasty.
Strongest flavor, good with other vegetables. 48 days.

Lou


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  • Posted by whgille Oakland Fl zone 9b (My Page) on
    Thu, Jan 6, 11 at 8:23

I agree with all the posters above about the cucumbers being one of the most difficult crop to grow. Like Amber said it is the most important thing to plant them at the right time. The soil has to be heavily amended to avoid nematodes and have to spray regularly for disease and bugs. Can also successfully grown in a container. Some varieties do better than others. I like to plant a variety small for just one salad, medium ones and bigger ones like the oriental varieties. Since they are all difficult to grow, go for the one that you like the taste.

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One more parthenocarpic cuke by Jung is the Sweet Success, I grew this one as well as the others in containers last season and it was fav right up there with Diva and Cool Breeze. You have to keep them well separated from pollinators though as cross-pollination will result in deformed shapes, cukes won't be uniform in size and shape at all.

Tom


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I didn't manage to get any really good pictures of Sweet Success on the vine but here's a picture after being picked, Sweet Success on the left, Cool Breeze on the right. No Diva's in there but their size is in between the other two.

Tom

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RE: Cucumbers in South Florida?!

Sylvia grows those very very long thin Asian cucumbers because all the nematodes in her garden are short fat little fellows.

Lou


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RE: Cucumbers in South Florida?!

Hey Amberroses, you know, I really don't know exactly why they got so weak and died. I did notice that after it got down into the 30's one night, that they started to look pretty pitiful. It is rare for that kind of weather to happen here, so I covered them with sheets.
Outside of that though, the Marketmoore really wouldn't even grow??!! Weird...

Hey Lou, thanks for so much information. After reading your stuff here and some of Tom's, I'm thinking about Diva and Sweet Success. I'm kind of bummed though that organic strains don't seem to do well down here. Hmm....?!

Anyway, thanks so much for the input, Everybody!

Stellabee


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