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Posted by scents_from_heaven z9b Orlando FL (My Page) on Fri, Feb 5, 10 at 22:18
| I found a marvelous list that has suggestions for specific herbs to grow for different styles of cooking. It is extremely good for diabetics and I thought I would share the list wtith you and see if any of you are growing specific herb gardens. I certainly will be doing the Italian, Mexican and Thai.
Salad Herb Garden: arugula, chervil, chives, dill, dwarf basil, red basil, flat-leaf parsley, mustard, nasturtiums, sorrel, summer savory, and tarragon.
Italian Herb Garden: arugula, basil, bay, dill, fennel, garlic chives, marjoram, flat-leaf parsley, rosemary, sage, and thyme.
French Herb Garden: basil, fennel, lavender, marjoram, rosemary, sage, summer savory, and thyme.
Mexican: annatto, bay, chile peppers, cilantro, garlic, Mexican oregano, and thyme.
Thai: basil, cilantro, chile peppers, garlic, lemon grass, ginger, mint, and tamarind.
Moroccan: cardamon, cassia, cumin, nutmeg, paprika, and saffron.
Fish Herb Garden: bay, dill, fennel, lemon basil, lemon grass, lemon thyme, parsley, rosemary, sage, savory, and tarragon.
Salt Substitute Herb Garden: basil, bay, dill, lovage, parsley, rosemary, sage, savory, thyme, and tarragon.
Dessert Herb Garden: anise, caraway, lemon balm, lemon verbena, nasturtiums, orange and pineapple mint, spearmint, scented geraniums, and violets.
Herb Tea Garden: angelica, bergamot, borage, caraway, chamomile, hyssop, lemon balm, lemon geranium, lemongrass, lemon verbena, lovage, marigold petals, marjoram, mint, pineapple sage, rosemary, sage, thyme, and sweet woodruff |
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| Linda, those are great lists! Thanks for posting them. I think I lost every thing except for the lemon grass, garlic chives, and maybe one tiny Greek oregano. Even the mint looks bad and I thought you couldn't kill that! I had lots of Thai Basil that I used frequently and I will replace that. I think I'll do several basils this year. Some fennel and dill too. I like the 'fish herbs' list! Kate |
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- Posted by whgille Oakland, FL-Zone 9B (My Page) on
Sat, Feb 6, 10 at 7:29
| Linda I am glad that you are making steps to have a better diet. A lot of herbs have healing powers and work miracles in our kitchens. They can make a simple dish taste great! I do have a lot of herbs that I grow, most of them survived the freeze but the basil. Time to start new ones. Silvia |
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| I use lots of herbs and spices in cooking. I have jut not been in good control of my diabetes for some time and I finaly woke up and decided that I need to take total control onee again. I have located a wonderful website that even tells you what you should stock in your pantry for specific cooking needs. I do a lot of Mediterranean cooking with some Mexican, French, Thai and of course southern but updated to diabetic format. Thanks for the encouragement as it helps tremendously to know that people are concerned and assisting me to regain control. I love veggies but there are certain ones I have to eat in moderation due to their sugar or starch content. Kate, your mint more than likely will come back and I have soem Thai basil that has refused to die. It is spreading all over my garden and yard but smells heavenly when the lawnman mows the lawn. I adore basil and I utilize a numerous variety in my food especially salads. Ted says I should write a cookbook on my salad combinttions that are complete meals. Linda |
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| Linda, thanks so much for the herb list! Since my son is diabetic (and I have a monster sweet tooth!) I also grew some stevia last year. I tried to salvage some cuttings just before that awful freeze, but they look sickly. I have (had?) lemon grass and am trying to grow ginger to harvest size because we love Thai food. I'd planned to expand my herb garden this year and your list will certainly help in the planning. cora |
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| Thanks for the great lists. Many times I am at a loss as to what herbs go in what type of receipes. I do grow many of them but have to look up each herb often times to see what type of recipe I should use them in. |
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| sharbear, here is another list that may help as it tells you what to add to certain dishes to make them the counry you wish to enjoy. I have tried these with chicken and with beef. I have another better list of which herbs to use in dishes. I will locate it and post here. Asian: Cook with garlic, fresh ginger, lemongrass, and scallions using peanut oil and/or a drop of dark sesame oil. Spice the dish up with cayenne pepper and add additional flavor with Thai fish sauce, soy sauce, rice-wine vinegar, hoisin sauce, and Sambal Oelek. Finish with chopped cilantro or chopped scallions. French: Cook with garlic, onions, or shallots in olive oil. Add fresh herbs such as thyme, rosemary, or tarragon. Stir in wine, tomatoes, and bay leaf. Finish with fruit-infused wine vinegars and/or Dijon mustard. Hungarian: Cook with garlic, onion, and/or bell peppers. Season the dish with Hungarian paprika, caraway seeds or dill seeds, and freshly ground pepper. Finish with plain nonfat yogurt and/or a splash of red wine vinegar. Indian: Cook with garlic, fresh ginger, and onion in olive oil. Season the dish with ground cumin, ground coriander, paprika, or turmeric. Spice it up with cayenne pepper. Stir in tomatoes. Finish with plain nonfat yogurt, lemon juice, chopped mint, and/or chopped cilantro. Italian: Cook with onion and garlic in olive oil. Use plenty of herbs: basil, marjoram, oregano, and rosemary. Spice it up with cayenne pepper. Stir in tomatoes, wine, and bay leaf. Finish with grated Parmesan or Romano cheese and more fresh herbs. Latin: Cook with garlic, onion, and fresh chiles. Season the dish with Mexican oregano, ground cumin, allspice, cinnamon, and/or chili powder. Stir in fresh lime or lemon juice or white wine vinegar. Finish with chopped scallions and cilantro or a bit of low-fat melting cheese. Middle Eastern: Cook with garlic, onion. Season the dish with turmeric, ground cinnamon, ground cinnamon, and/or ground cloves. Spice it up with cayenne pepper or ground chiles. Finish with plain nonfat yogurt, lemon juice, fresh mint and/or fresh dill. |
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sharbear, here is a modified herb and spice list for you. If you have any quesions about what herb or spice to use where just ask me. I utilize tons of herbs and spices in my day to day cooking and sometimes not the normal herb or spice that are on the market shelf. I also have recipes for healing or relaxing baths, teas, etc. Linda The most common dried herbs that you're likely to have on your shelf: Bay leaf - primarily used for flavoring soups, stews, and marinades Basil -- use in tomato dishes, poultry, eggs, and vegetables Dill - best with seafood, potatoes, chicken, carrots, tomatoes, eggs, and breads Oregano - use with lamb; pork; beef; chicken; beans; Italian, Greek, and Mexican dishes, tomatoes Rosemary - best with lamb, poultry, pork, grilled meats, vegetables and potatoes, marinades, breads Sage - best with bread stuffings, game, vegetables, pork, veal Tarragon - use with seafood, poultry, veal, fruit, marinades, vinegars Thyme - best with chicken, veal, vegetables, marinades, soups, Creole dishes The basic spices that you most likely have: Black pepper - grind it fresh over most everything Cayenne - add with care to anything when you want "a little heat' Cinnamon - use in breads, desserts, chicken, pasta and rice, cheese and egg dishes Cumin - Mexican, Tex-Mex, Indian dishes (I also like it inside my turkey and in the stuffing. It is great in butternut squash soup) Curry powder - Indian and Asian dishes, soups, rice salads, meats, poultry Nutmeg - use in desserts, stews, soups, poultry, beef, pork, beans, lentils, noodles, rice Paprika - meats, poultry, vegetables, pasta, grains, dried beans, cheese and egg dishes (smoked paprika is even better and offers another taste element along with hot hungarian paprika - try one of them in mac and cheese) |
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| Wonderful info here! Thanks for the posts, friends. As a pre-diabetic, I've been trying to take control of my diet and exercise, and head off the inevitable. My mom, her twin brother, and my older brother, all diabetic, and who knows who else might have been in the family background. So take off my prednisone-induced pounds I must. I do have a nice assortment of basils here, if anybody is nearby the Fort Lauderdale area. Also planning to go to Ricky's Spring Swap-a-Que. Basils are easy to start from cuttings; I'll try and start some if there's any interest. Or maybe a trade, of several young herb plants? girlsaylor |
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| girlsaylor, yes you need to prevent diabetes as long as you can and then be in good diabetic control if you do contract it. I was good for so long and then my husband kinda encouraged me to slip and get out of control and then living in Sebring with my endocrinologist n Bradenton it just didn't help. Now I am suffering the consequences and wish to get back in strict control before I develop more issues. Here is the wonderful site I have found and of course the American Diabetic Association site is wonderful also. Herbs are so essential to eating as a diabetic should as they flavor foods without sugar or so much salt. I am currently working on a cookbook that actually has food in in that I will eat and so would most diabetics. My housemate wants me to do a section on salads alone. He is in love with salad combos and he has lost 37 pounds over the past two months and he is on the verge of becoming a diabetic. I just started some seeds for my annual herbs and I have discovered that my Thai basil refuses to die. If you have any further questions or need someone to cheer you on my email addy is in listed on my site. Linda |
Here is a link that might be useful: Diabetic Lifestyle
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| If anyone is going to Ricky's swap I will have lots of herb plants to share and some of them will be a little on the rare side or at least herbs people do not normally plant. I will recipes and info on them. Linda |
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| I DONT suppose you would happen to have some lovage? I always had lovage in my garden it is the most fantastic flavoring for salad and soups I havent been able to find it here. However I am still homebound so probably wont make it to any swaps before march. |
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| Yes, I have seeds that should arrive any day now and would be more than happy to send you some of the seeds. Linda |
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| Thank you for the support, Linda. Finding this thread is just what I needed, for the encouragement to take control of my dietary lifestyle. We have a young diabetic in the extended family here, and my oldest granddaughter has assumed an active role in helping and supporting her (they're both 13 years old). I am so amazed at how this has enhanced life for both girls. Where once the diabetic child was so limited in her activities (with mom constantly on call to drop everything and run to assist), now the girl goes on sleep-overs, participates in ski club, ballet, and sports. I am so proud of these girls! The kids like gardening, and I'm thinking of putting together some plants/seeds for the kids for their own diabetic garden (would have to mail to them). Would be lots of fun for me as well as them! Randy |
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| Linda, thanks so much for the herb lists. I am going to put them in a word file, print it and post it on the inside of my spice cabinet door. |
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| girlsayor, you can email me privately if you like and I will assist you in any way I can. I have been diabeic for 35 years or so and I am on an insulin pump. I know all about being able to do what I want most of the time. Diabetes forces you to develop a healthy lifestyle or suffer the complications which I am doing because I was bad for almost ten years. am now taking strict control once again but I do not allow diabetes to rule my life - it is a condition I deal with and get on with life. Gardening is wonderful for both the exercise and the wonderful gardens you can create both edible and eye candy. You see I get a lot of my candy now in the form of beautiful blooms and things that smel wonderful. I grow chocolate mint and use it to make a wonderful mink chocolate pudding that I can enjoy. There are so many herbs and veggetables that are great for diabetics and a few that are not so good. I think an herb garden would be good for the three of you and maybe even more of your family. It would be a great way to educate others and have fun and enjoy the oils, teas, bath bags, etc that you can make and share. I am so excited at the responses I have received to this post and hope we can all enjoy herbs and spices. Linda |
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| Linda, I want to thank you for your wonderful ist of herbs for different areas and their uses. You have saved me hours of research and refreshed old memories. Just wish your garden was next door to me. Nothing more beautiful to both scent and feel than a bountiful herb garden. Lost my garden to last years drought, too much rain and then this years freezes as I was busy taking care of family. Now getting ready to rebuild. My most heartbreaking loss was the starfruit that was just getting big enough to produce. Carol |
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| Linda, I would love to take you up on your offer! Thank you so much. The kids are in NE Ohio, and I am in South FL, as you would know, lol. Many herbs can over-Winter up North outdoors. Others, I can start from cuttings here and mail to them. And of course, seeds can be mailed any time. Their USDA planting zone is 5, if memory serves me. I have one of those little Netbooks, and can't see the zone map very well. They are in the Akron/Canton area, if that helps. I think the last frost date used to be around May 10th. Wonder if a May Day celebration might be in order, lol. Your chocolate mint sounds yummy! I have the lime, lavender, grapefruit, and banana mints here, but no chocolate mint (wah). Would love to increase the variety. I can start snips of those for the girls. My basils include Holy Basil, Lime basil, Thai Basil, Christmas Basil, Opal Basil, African Blue Basil, Blue Spice Basil, Cinnamon Basil, Green Pepper Basil. I have seeds here for some others, can't recall which ones I have. Can you tell I like basils?! I'll send you an email, and thanks again! Randy |
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| Here is my favorite link for heirloom herb seeds and it also discribs each herb and give suggestions for how to utilze it. I hope you enjoy. Randy I will be in touch and we can get going. Linda |
Here is a link that might be useful: Herbs
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- Posted by corar 9A, Jax (My Page) on
Sun, Feb 14, 10 at 12:09
| Thanks for the Herbs link. The list was impressive and I saw a number of my favorites. I was surprised, tho' to see Russian Tarragon listed as a culinary herb. I understand that it's considered to be hardier than the French tarragon, but no where near as flavorful. Can anyone expand on this for me? cora |
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French Tarragon (Artemisia dracunculus) Also known as Estragon. A half-hardy perennial, growing to about 60cm high and 45cm wide. Has long, fibrous roots spreading by runners. Leaves have an Anise-like flavour and are much used in French cuisine. Woody stems are covered with lance-shaped, thin, blue-green leaves about 5cm long. Flowers are small and greenish-white, and are seldom fully opened. French Tarragon rarely sets seed,and much of the seed is sterile. It is generally propagated by stem cuttings, taken in early spring. You can distinguish French Tarragon (as opposed to Russian Tarragon or Winter Tarragon) in a taste test. When you taste the leaves of French Tarragon, you get an astonishing tongue-numbing effect. Russian Tarragon is very similar to French Tarragon in appearance, but it has a dubious sort of flavour, and it self-seeds readily, and can become a weed in no time flat. It's also taller than French Tarragon. Winter Tarragon is Tagetes lucida, also known by many other names including Mexican Marigold Mint, Cloud Plant or Yerba anis. It makes a reasonable flavour substitute for French Tarragon, but the tongue-numbing effect is considerably reduced. The leaves of this plant are greener than the green-grey colour of French Tarragon. And it's easier to grow in warmer climates. |
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| Do you sow your herb seeds directly in the garden? I've done this with basil, parsley, chives and sage. I'm just wondering if there any herbs that need extra special care being started indoors? |
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| will give you my list later as I have to run to work. Check out the following link as I found it intereting even though I already knew a lot of what it contained. Linda |
Here is a link that might be useful: Herbs
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| This is my all time favorite site that has lots of good seeds from veggies to herbs and it is here in Florida. They have lots of organic seeds and other wonderful stuff. I would like to plan a trip to visit them in person on their next open house. I order from them every year. It is one of my birthday presents from a dear friend. She allows me to spend up to a certain amount. Linda |
Here is a link that might be useful: Florida seeds
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