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Rooting Nun's Orchid Stems

Posted by love_the_yard z9A Jax FL (My Page) on
Fri, May 10, 13 at 13:30

This Nun's orchid (Phaius tankervilleae) was gifted to me this spring. The blooms were lovely. Now I want to try to propagate by rooting the flower stem cuttings. Is anyone else trying this? There are several propagation techniques and I'm not sure which one to try. I have two stems to play with. Which method are you using?

Here are links to some of the various methods, if you're curious:

http://www.clanorchids.com/culture/phaicult.htm

http://solutionsforyourlife.ufl.edu/hot_topics/lawn_and_garden/nuns_orchid.html

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/propagate-nuns-orchids-62623.html

http://thedailysouth.southernliving.com/2009/03/04/hey-sister-get/

http://www.rv-orchidworks.com/orchidtalk/orchids-other-genera-bloom/13953-phaius-tankerville-nuns-orchid.html

Photo taken when I got it:
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Photo taken today  photo happy1.gif :
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Carol in Jacksonville


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I have tried rooting powder and placing in spaghnum moss and soil, did not work. Now I have them laying on top of the spaghnum moss without rooting hormone, so far, it is hard to tell if this is working. They are supposed to be easy to propagate, I am curious as well to see how others successfully propagated theirs.


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Morningloree, that sounds like you are doing everything right. Did you keep track of when you started them?

I went ahead and chopped mine up yesterday.

For the first stem, I laid the pieces in trenches in the ground. It is probably the least labor-intensive of the choices, and maybe the least likely to work, but I actually think it has the best chances under my care, as I am not always consistent as I think I will be! I had read where someone on another forum wrote: "I read that if you plant the flower stalk that it will make new plants. I tried it and I got 2 new plants. I cut it and laid it in a small trench and covered it up." It is in a protected shady area, and I'm betting on that one.

With the second stalk, I cut it into sections with two nodes per section. Rather than laying it on top of sphagnum (since I don't have any on-hand), I went ahead and buried one node of each section into fast-draining mix (perlite and vermiculite). I put all of the starter pots into a clear Sterlite box in a bright window. I am not betting on these to root, but it's the closest I'm going to get to following the actual instructions on most of those websites. You know, as I sit and type this, I am tempted to go lay these in trenches in the ground, too. Hmmmm.

Using Google Images, I did find some photos of sections being started and also some that had rooted. I found the pictures helpful so you might try that?

Please post back and let us know how yours do. I will do the same. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!

Carol


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I have tried this several times with no success. I would be interested in finding out how to do it successfully.


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Kay, I was wondering where you were!  photo happy1.gif I thought you had tried this before... but I didn't know it didn't work. I am so sorry. What did you do with your stems this year? Did you try? Or just toss them? Or are they still on the plants?

Well, I will post updates!

Carol


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Yay, I'm thrilled! One of my stem pieces rooted! Woo-hoo!  photo woo_hooo.gif

As I wrote above, I cut the flower stalks from the mother plant on May 10. After about a week, I moved the second stalk pieces from the Sterlite box to the ground in the same area as the first stalk pieces. I planted them all horizontally in trenches about 1-2" deep in moist, well-composted soil. The area is in deep shade in a protected bed between a live oak tree and the house. There is a lot of oak leaf mulch in the bed. Every week or so, I watered down the area, but not on any particular schedule. Today, I looked over and noticed something green sticking up. On closer inspection, I realized it was a new Nun's Orchid (Phaius tankervilliae) leaf! Yay! It is about one inch tall, coming straight up out of the ground. So far, that is the only one I have. I am hoping for more and will post back if I do get more.

One of the nice things about this location is that the plants do not need to be moved. They are protected from freeze and frost right where they are, so I do not intend to transplant them.

So it took a little over two months for them to root: May 10 - July 16.

I called one of my gardening friends here in Jacksonville - a friend who generously gave me the mother plant. She just discovered that two of hers have rooted, too. She started hers a week after me. She stuck some of her stem pieces vertically into the ground under an oak tree and two of those have small new leaves. She has others in trenches that have not rooted yet.

Anyone else have any luck? I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Carol in Jacksonville


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Hi,
How ironic, I just got back from vacation and I checked my kitty litter box full of spaghnum moss and 2 stems rooted. I have 2 tiny little leaves rooted on 2 stems. It seems to take awhile, I would say, don't give up. The best way seems to be to lay them horizontally in the medium. Congratulations to all!


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Morningloree, that is awesome! I'm so so excited for you! Yay!

Carol


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I now have two three rooted stems! I'm so happy. Did you get any more?

Carol

This post was edited by love_the_yard on Mon, Aug 5, 13 at 16:27


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I'm up to four rooted stems! After all of the rain last week, another shoot came up. Unbelievable - late August. Most of the stem was completely rotted (both ends) except for the node in the center that had a new root and a new shoot. I have now gently lifted all of the new plants and potted them up. They transplanted easily - didn't even blink. I keep watching the same area because I think I planted ten or more sections at the start.

Carol


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Something stepped on mine, I think it was a deer, I should have put them in pots. I am glad yours are doing well. I guess the lesson is be patient and pot them up!


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My nun's caps root themselves. I had to move a big clump and they broke apart with tiny roots already growing on them. I just planted them directly in the soil.


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Hi Amber,

Cool! (but I'm not sure I follow). Would you please tell me more? Where are the tiny roots? On the old flower stems? If so, were the stems touching the ground? I have heard that is their function in the wild. Or are you referring to the pseudo bulbs? Or some other part of the plant?

Thanks!
Carol


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Hi
Anybody growing the tank x flava hybrids?? Regular tanks are easy but these limp along . Is there a culture difference?? Thanks gary


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There are little baby offsets at the base of the plant and the bigger leaves have their own separate roots as well. My plants were pretty large when I divided them this way.


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Amber, don't you just love propagation you don't have to actually perform? Yay, new plants! Congratulations!

Gary, I am not familiar with that orchid. In my search, all the results came back to posts by you, LOL! Best I can tell, it is Phiaus Joan Hart. Is that what you think, too? The flowers are beautiful!

Carol

Here is a link that might be useful: Google Images - Orchid Phiaus Joan Hart


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Hi
Tag says P. flava x P. tankersvillea . Flowers are yellow with red lip rather than purple 'off white of regular tanks.
Bought it at a sale about 5 years ago. has never reflowered though it hasn't died either lol
need to change something ?? Thanks gary


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  • Posted by katkin 9b/10a PSL,Fl (My Page) on
    Fri, Sep 6, 13 at 7:12

Gary, I have that one too, I think I got it at GardenFest in Vero last year. It is blooming now again for me. I have it in dappled shade and it gets plenty of water. I have bought others in the past but they have since died off, but those were in full sun. We also had those two very cold winters.


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I think the deer might have spared one during the great stampede of 2013, does this look familiar?


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Yes, yes, yes, Dawn! That is one!  photo woo_hooo.gif

Carol


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Yay!! I thought I lost them all. I would say in conclusion, to lay the stems horizontally in your medium, mine was spaghnum moss, be very patient, and perhaps keep them in pots until they are larger. I put mine in the ground after I had some sprouts of a few weeks and some were stepped on by deer. It is not a fast process!


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How many stems on your Nun's Orchids this year? Mine had two last year - - this year it has three!

All of last year's rooted stems have turned into nice little plants. They are too small to bloom, but thriving nicely.

This year, I know what to do with the stems. My friend had great success with planting them vertically - one node below the soil, one node above. I like that method better than mine (planted horizontally in trenches) because I couldn't keep an eye on mine or see how they were doing. After three months or so, I wasn't even sure exactly where they were! So I am going to try and root them vertically this year. Last year, my friend got four new plants and I think I got three.

Yay! ;)

Carol in Jacksonville


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All of mine froze - will be looking to trade for some starts in March, if anyone has extras to trade.


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I have some getting ready to bloom now. I forgot where I put some of the stems as well. I will try the vertical method, too.


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Kay, I will be glad to trade with you in March.

Morningloree, just to clarify, I am going to start mine in the ground, not in pots. Maybe you plan to do the same. I am going to put them in a bed that is against the house where there is no foot-traffic - same place as I put them in trenches last year - except this year it will be vertical. My friend, who had the good success, started hers vertically in the ground under an oak tree in a protected bed.

Carol in Jacksonville


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