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Finally startd my lasagna garden...... advice?

Posted by mrs_tlc SW FL (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 14, 09 at 15:18

Hi All. I came on this forum in Aug. and some of you suggested I try a lasagna garden.........well...life... so I have finally started it. Probably a little late for my area but I guess better late than never.

This is going to sound silly but what would you say are the best kitchen scraps. Is that only coffee grounds and fruit/veg scraps OR can you use things like fish skin, cheese that went bad, bread.... LOL - like I said I'm pretty new at this.


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RE: Finally startd my lasagna garden...... advice?

my advice... anything organic. mixed with brown stuff like leaves. if it smells bad, it's too wet.


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RE: Finally startd my lasagna garden...... advice?

It's usually recommended not to use meat/fish type scraps - this may be because of smell (how close are the neighbors), or the tendency of local mammals (mice, rats, cats, dogs, raccoons, etc, etc) to dig the stuff up, and ruin your lasagne = or maybe some other reason. Bread should be fine; don't know about cheese.

Let us know how it turns out!
Eileen


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RE: Finally startd my lasagna garden...... advice?

mrs tlc

Are you trying to make compost to add to your lasagna garden? It is not recommended to use anything like meat products or cheese. Whatever you use make sure it is well turned with other materials, so I does not smell and attract bugs and others. When is well composted you can add it to your lasagna bed, good luck!

Michael, is that a new recipe? lol. Where is Bill (castorp)??? Is he "undercover"? lol I remember last time that he was talking about lasagna gardening and the history of it.

Bill, if you are available say hi sometimes, we miss you and did not get the chance to see you at the Biosphere.

Silvia


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whgille - hmmmmm. I'm a little confused, I think.

..." sure it is well turned with other materials..." "When is well composted you can add it to your lasagna bed, good luck!"

From what I read I thought that you are supposed to layer the greens & browns right in the garden and they were supposed to compost right there? I'm I doing it the wrong way???


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RE: Finally startd my lasagna garden...... advice?

mrs tlc

I made my beds with layers of newspaper, hay, peat moss, well composted bag manure and bag garden soil. And I planted right on it, no need to wait for composting.

Now, if I was going to build with kitchen scraps and other materials, I would have to wait for them to break down. Like making compost.

Here is a picture of some of my beds in June

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I am including a link, maybe that help you.

Silvia

Here is a link that might be useful: lasagna bed


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RE: Finally startd my lasagna garden...... advice?

OK everyone try to look at Silvia's perfect garden as a GOAL not as an impossibly high standard that I (whoops-WE) can never possibly attain.

I personally think "Silvia" is a professional with a staff of 10 and a greenhouse full of perfect plants that get staged with every season. What else can explain these photographs??

I am kidding Silvia. You are the queen, long live the queen (Rule Brittania playing in the background).

Denise


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Silvia - what a BEAUTIFUL garden! I'm drooling all over my keyboard....LOL

Thanks again so much for your input... :)


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Hi Denise

Thank you very much for such a high honor, but I don't think I deserve it.

However I do what I can. Starting for one, my yard is very small and I try to pack everything in, that is the reason after the harvest something gets planted right away.

And I always have surplus of everything that I grow, and quickly share it with friends and neighbors. I am also thrifty and try to let nothing go to waste.

And just like you, I like to save seeds...

mrs tlc

Thank you, I found out through the years of gardening that we have to adjust and use whatever we have. There are different styles for veggie gardening and they can all work well. But I am sure that you want to put your efforts and be successful, we all want that. It can be done!

Silvia


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RE: Finally startd my lasagna garden...... advice?

yeah i think all of sylvia's posts should be asterisked "your results may differ..."


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Michael, somebody said if I did photoshop the veggies. I told them that if I knew how to do it, I would photoshop my face instead. LOL

Silvia


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RE: Finally startd my lasagna garden...... advice?

It is time for the DeLand contingency to make another inspection of Silvia's property ! Time flies when you are gardening .

mrs tlc -
I made a lasagna garden a year ago . I layered newspaper , cardboard , oak ashes , aged cow manure , hay , oak leaves and coffee grounds . Plants have thrived .

Here it is a year later and most of the layers are gone . Time to layer again with anything I can find . The only thing I purchase is the newspaper . To me , the idea is to repurpose and recycle and NOT spend any money - if possible . I also understand that not everyone can do this .

Look around and see if you can find organic matter from your house or trash . It can be from the store or the curb . And don't rush . This does not have to be done all at once . It's never too late . Layer as you go and as you find things .

Now is a good time to start a compost pile . THAT'S where you can use the coffee grounds and fruit/veg scraps or even the fish skin, cheese that went bad and bread . With the food chain at my place , only coffee grounds ever make it to the garden !

You can do it !


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Hi Mary

You guys are good! I am talking about the DeLand gardeners, keep me moving! :o) I missed you and Bill, last time we went to the Biosphere.

Very good and detailed explanation about the lasagna garden.

Silvia


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RE: Finally startd my lasagna garden...... advice?

Thanks for all of the good advice. I really want to be able to plant in it right away. And I will also make a compost bin out of pallets (if I can find some for free..lol)... We have to go to TN on Dec. 1st so I'm going to bring back some fallen leaves.

I know that coffee grounds go into the compost, but do any of you put left over coffee in your garden rather than dumping it down the drain?? Seems like we always have a cup or two that goes down the drain....

I also want to tell you guys that after an extremely rough day at work it was nice to just sit down with a cup of coffee and read your responses to help de-stress....


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RE: Finally startd my lasagna garden...... advice?

i wouldn't sweat the details. you want a loose, moist, crumbly mix. it takes a while for that to develop, but not as long as up north. as mary points out, unlike up north, our excessively-drained soils essentially sieve out the organic material--it washes away, into the soil. so, you'll be added new material all the time.

here's what i'd do: fill the bed to the top with a good mix of green and brown. leaves, grass clippings, kitchen scraps, old potting soil, coffee grounds, whatever.

water it well, and then leave it alone for a couple of months. you'll be ready to plant in it right at the time that you should start planting your spring/summer (probably beginning of feb for you.) figure that you'll want to mulch it heavily with leaves, which you'll find an abundance of come early spring and the oaks start to drop. the new layer of leaves will break down by midsummer, when you'll likely want to take a break yourself. add new layers of green and brown, and then things will be ready again in september for your fall planting... lather, rinse, repeat.

if you're itching to start things, use containers and a LOOSE potting mix. you'd be amazed how much you can grow in buckets (potatoes!) and windowboxes (carrots, radishes, LETTUCE0.


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I started Zucchini, spaghetti squash, sugar snap peas and peppers in small pots. The zucchini has already sprouted and it about 3 in. already. The squash has just sprouted. Can those be grown in pots at all or am I going to have to find a place to plant them in the ground?


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Coffee grounds , paper filters , tea , tea bags or a cup of coffee - cream , sugar and all can go directly onto the soil around plants . If you have pounds and pounds of grounds that you got for free from a coffee shop , then some of that can go around plants and some in the compost . It's all good.

Please ! Do NOT bring back bags of leaves from Tennessee !!!
I know this seems like a perfectly innocent good idea BUT this is exactly how disease , insect pests and invasive plants inadvertently enter and devastate Florida .

We will soon have plenty of leaves available through curb shopping . I only got 50 bags last time and that was not nearly enough . Must have more leaves ....

ill and silvia offer outstanding advice . You will find a ton more on the Soil & Compost Forum on GW .


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mrs tlc

The basics for planting are simple. There are cool season crops and warm season crops. Sometimes they overlap. Like I have tomatoes, lima and pole beans, peppers (warm season) ripening now when I am also harvesting greens, lettuce (cool season)

You have to look at the calendar for growing crops for your area, I am in zone 9b and it is too late for me to plant zucchini or winter squash (warm season). The pepper you can keep it in a pot and give it some protection if you get a freeze.

I have my peas planted in a raised bed, they need something to climb like a trellis.

Silvia


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Hi - When I do compost I keep a plastic can or small pail in the corner of my kitchen sink, and dump stuff in it.. egg shells are great, as well as coffee, tea, veggie peels, etc. I take it out to the garden and dig a small hole and dump it all in and cover it with dirt, I keep a small shovel right there for this purpose. Inside of a week or so it is ready to plant on, I just dig it a bit and whatever I plant there does the rest... I don't make a pile or turn it or anything, and leaves and grass-clippings just get dumped in the garden, they decompose naturally.... works for me, Happy Gardening, sally


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*****Please ! Do NOT bring back bags of leaves from Tennessee !!! I know this seems like a perfectly innocent good idea BUT this is exactly how disease , insect pests and invasive plants inadvertently enter and devastate Florida**************


gatormomx2 - Thanks for that advice!! Obviously you are totally right and I never thought of it!!!


 
 

 

 


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