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Fragrance disappointments

Posted by leahrenee1 z9FL (My Page) on
Mon, Jan 21, 13 at 12:33

Let me start by saying that I am not picky at all about the type of fragrance, but I really like things that have a strong fragrance and if it is strong enough to waft around the garden I will especially love it. Last two disappointments were:
Phlox midnight candy. The fragrance was pleasant but so faint... then the poor little guy died anyways so maybe it killed itself off before I could toss it!

The second is my mirabilis longiflora, (Fairy trumpets 4 O'clock) the poor plant is so stragly and the flowers just don't smell strongly at all. I keep hoping that it will perk back up in the spring and will be robust and strong smelling yet, but I don't know. My other 4 o'clocks that are just run of the mill from seed are unstoppable.

Please share yours.


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  • Posted by Tolip Tropical (My Page) on
    Tue, Jan 22, 13 at 9:31

Well there are many others that you can choose from and try.

Keeping a plant healthy ensures prolific flowering. The more flowers there are, the stronger the fragrance.


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I have a notebook full of disappointments. ;)
Before I go into them I'm curious about your experience with Mirabilis longiflora.
I'm assuming you started one plant from seed?
I suppose there's the chance that the individual plant you grew from seed doesn't smell as strongly as others in that species.
Terrible news to hear really since I've always wanted to smell it (have the seeds but haven't gotten around to sprouting them yet).
You mention your regular four o'clocks (Mirabilis jalapa) flower profusely but you didn't mention your thoughts on their scent?
I always try to sniff them when I see them growing in gardens but have never been bowled over by their light scent.

Okay. Here are some of my disappointments:

Rondeletia splendens - Very light scent or no scent at all and when I could detect scent it smelled strangely like root beer/sassafras. Not worth the trouble.

Murraya paniculata - Strong scent however the scent didn't wow me. Seemed like a generic floral scent.

Hoya lacunosa - Smelled similar to Murraya.

Nicotiana alata - I like the scent however it's never been strong enough for me to justify growing it. Maybe if I grew more plants the scent might waft?

Jasminum nitidum - Gorgeous leaves and flowers however the clean soapy scent just wasn't strong enough for me.

Hemerocallis citrina - So far the scent has been light. They are young plants so maybe when more bloom at the same time I'll change my mind or maybe I'll try a different vendor for different plants. I could have received hybrids for all I know.

Hemerocallis dumortieri - The ones I got smelled like cat pee to me. Yuck! Again...who knows if I really got the correct species but they did look like images of that species I found online.

Brugmansia 'Cherub' and 'Baby Doll' - Again can't be certain I got the right variety but if so it didn't smell as strongly as my other favorite brugs. Might have needed to give them more time but I've only got so much space and resources. Sticking with 'Charles Grimaldi' and 'Betty Marshall' for now.

Passiflora mooreana - Strong scent however I didn't find it pleasant. Smelled sorta like grape soda to me. I'll stick with P. x belotii (alata-caerulea). This year I'm trying P. serratifolia but there are others I want to sniff eventually as well.

Hedychium 'Peach Delight' - Just didn't smell that strong to me. I'll stick with H. coronarium and 'Daniel Weeks' for now.

Plumeria 'Divine' - Too light of a scent. I want a plumie with tons of fragrance!

Okay...I've probably complained enough already. Laugh.

-Robert


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Robert, you just had to throw the Jasmine Nitidum in there..Ha..lol

Ok, if I am disappointed in its fragrance, what is a GREAT one you can recommend that is heavy and whaffs the air. That is what I really want! Thanks.

I would say...Hummmm, not quite sure yet, although I am was VERY disappointed with my Osmanthus this year. I couldn't smell a thing with all the flowers just to loose them in less than a week!

Mike


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Robert, you just had to throw the Jasmine Nitidum in there..Ha..lol

Ok, if I am disappointed in its fragrance, what is a GREAT one you can recommend that is heavy and whaffs the air. That is what I really want! Thanks.

I would say...Hummmm, not quite sure yet, although I am was VERY disappointed with my Osmanthus this year. I couldn't smell a thing with all the flowers just to loose them in less than a week!

Mike


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Mike,

You know it! ;)

The best wafting jasmines in my opinion are the sambacs. My personal fav is Jasminum sambac 'Belle of India'.
J. molle is another heavy scented one though some people find its scent too heavy and disagreeable. One friend thought it smelled like old women's perfume (though I personally think he's a jerk and he says that about a lot of my plants. Laugh).

You should start a favorite wafting scent thread. :)

-Robert


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I've never been disappointed with a potted flower, but in the ground...

Convallaria - lily of the valley. What is the point of a flower that's at ground level when it's cold and icky outside?

Dianthus except cheddar pinks. Same as above but at least the "pinks" make such a profuse amount of blooms that a little nosegay can easily be picked to enjoy.

Yarrow - the rated G version of what I think of this plant is that is stinks like dirty socks and underwear.

Roses that have no scent. Chainsaw them all I say!


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oH nO pURPLE!!!! dON'T LET JODIK SEE THAT ABOUT rOSES!! LOL

Oh, and you are so right about Lilly of the Vallies..!
Lol I can't get rid of them! I have nevr smelled anything in the air from them, and they turn brown within days! If they are still white, they loose their in your face have to smell up close fragrance within a day or two!


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Well Purple - that's just mean...

sure, it's not a great treat to see a beautiful rose and not be able to appreciate the scent - but, it's still beautiful and NOT deserving of chainsaws.

But I will admit, when I buy roses (and I do treat myself regularly) - I only consider the 'bunches' that have scents worthy of being in a vase. :) If I'm paying for an indoor flower - it better offer more than a good view.


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Awww, I wasn't serious. Of course the roses without scent are pretty, but just taking up space where a real rose could go...


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No wonder you're having problems with the two plants you mentioned. Neither will live up to their full potential where we live. Although both the Mirabilis longiflora and the Midnight Candy are zone 9 hardy neither like our Florida climate. They're both from mediterranean style climates. Our summer rain fall and high temps are horrible for them. That said I would suggest a plant that has the common name "chaya". Tall leafy plants that have an orange blossom type fragrance and edible leaves (have to be cooked first). Does very well here.


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Speaking of Murraya paniculata, I dislike the scent. It is NOTHING like the citrus blossom scent described by Logee's. It is more like French Jasmine with that musky/indolic overtone. Citrus blossoms do not have that musky note, not in my opinion.

I smelled a Ylang Ylang candle at Target the other day and it reminded me of the smell of Murraya paniculata.


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Southern magnolia, M. grandiflora - smells like lemon pledge to me.

Stapelia - did NOT stink like carrion. (First potted disappointment, a place of honor I guess.)

This has happened to me a few times - you *think* Narcissus smells good outside, so you cut a few and put them in a vase inside. Then later realize the source of the "rotten" smell you're trying to track down is the silly flowers.


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Magnolia grandiflora does have lemon scent but I can also detect burnt rubber or the smell of those grey erasers among the lemon. Makes me wanna gag and its pretty intense too. Best not to sniff it up close. It's such a coarse, unrefined scent.


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Ha! Magnolia grandiflora does have a weird funk to its scent but after all it evolved to attract beetles so I'm not surprised.
I don't mind all the haters. That just gives me more blooms to sniff. ;)
I've got lots of memories attached to this fragrance so that's probably a lot of my fondness for it.

Here's my latest fragrant disappointment-
Hoya australis. Smells like hot chocolate/vanilla. Not what I'm wanting out of a flower. Very much reminds me of Sharry Baby (oncidium or at least the ones I've sniffed).

-Robert


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Hehe Robert. XD

I think that funky smell may occur in several other magnolias, I do notice a little tiny bit of it in M. virginiana, but its more tolerable there.

This reminds me--Clare_CA mentioned that she does not like the scent of M. champaca. I wonder if that funky note is part of the reason why she ranks it lower than M. alba. My mom did not like champaca either, she said alba is way better. I've yet to smell champaca though. ::


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I love m.grandiflora too, although I understand why a lot say it's not a fine scent. I don't know why, but it seems it evokes a lot of associations in a lot of people even if they didn't grow up with it, maybe it is that it looks so primitive ...For me it was a description (smth about the oily scent) that I read in il gattopardo after I had lived in genoa for some years where the city was full of enormous trees that made it one of my favourite memories ever!! I personally think it is a combination of lemons and leather..


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It seems that men appreciate M. grandiflora much more than women, and more women object to its' scent than men. Anyone else notice a gender divide with this one?

I don't find it upsettingly unpleasant, (like privet,) just not something I'll sniff purposely again, unless it's one of those with a morphing fragrance as the flowers age. A yellowed Gardenia flower does not smell good anymore to me, too sickly sweet. It might be better wafting than up close... don't think I've been in such a spot, never got a waft from an individual tree.


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musaboru,

I still want to sniff M. champaca one of these days! And I really wish my darn M. alba would finally bloom! Laugh.

fenius,

I've often wondered how you've sniffed Magnolia grandiflora before. At first I wondered if you're originally from the states but now I see it's been planted around the world. :)
Oh, and you made me do my detective work to figure out you read about the scent in the novel 'The Leopard'.

purpleinopp,

Are you comparing us men to beetles? ;)
I will say it smells better outside wafting in the breeze than if you stick your nose right into the bloom.

-Robert


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"Are you comparing us men to beetles?" Oh... no, never crossed my mind. I'm not one of those man-insulters, or insulter of anyone. Sorry for any unintended implication, and thanks for saying something so I could fix it.

Just extrapolating from the fact that men perceive some fragrances differently than women, and the aggregate of anecdotes here and in person, that this may be one of those gender divide fragrances. Don't recall reading anything about this one before in that way.

Nothing for or against either gender, good or bad either way, just something interesting to observe about nature.

This micro-subject is an ongoing, sporadic fascination that was originally sparked by a class in college where we were told of an experiment about this. Then years later I used to wholesale scented candles, so the curiosity was reignited.

...there are times when I know DH can smell the trash, sometimes his "oh really?" face doesn't quite make it. More research is probably needed... but I would never bash the person (or his entire gender) that I like enough to share my life, computer, heck I even let him drive my car sometimes. No women can say that. Smiles!


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Ha! I'm just joking with you though I'm sure there's scientific evidence to back up such theories over differences in genders.

Personally I think eastern noses may be better at detecting scents than western noses but maybe it's just a cultural thing and they've got tons more awesome stuff blooming than we do so they're more accustomed to sniffing flowers. Laugh.

-Robert


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  • Posted by No-Clue So Cal Zone 10 (My Page) on
    Wed, Jun 12, 13 at 12:55

Ok here is my list.

CA Sally Plumeria - while it has large beautiful flowers, they smell like arm pits or locker room to me. Eck! Something is clearly wrong with my nose! LOL

Banana Shrub - EXTREMELY fragrant but sickeningly sweet. Doesn't help that I don't like to eat/smell bananas. But the after note on this flower is like nail polish remover. Not a good combination.

Vietnamese Gardenia - so sorry Kemistry. But it smells very sweet like a cheap perfume.


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