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Plumeria stenopetala

Posted by robert1971 7a OK (My Page) on
Fri, Mar 28, 14 at 15:46

So I've been resisting ordering a plant for days now and it's been killing me! Laugh.
Almost bought another sambac jasmine but I figured I should expand my nose pleasures so I broke down and ordered a grafted Plumeria stenopetala from Florida Colors.
They've really improved their site and they now include the S&H when ordering so there's no guesswork anymore (used to be you'd have to wait for them to ship it to find out what your total would be).
I know many people like Chubite have urged me to get this plumeria for its scent which I believe has been described as gardenia like and since many of my Plumeria rubras have croaked I figured why not? :)

I'll let everyone know my thoughts if and when it blooms for me.

-Robert

This post was edited by robert1971 on Fri, Mar 28, 14 at 15:50


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Man of good taste Robert :) I already have this plumeria Its been growing really well for me but this is just my second year of owning it. I bought it last spring i am hoping it flowers this summer fingers crossed :)


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Ha ha! We're all enablers here, aren't we? ;)
I wish yours would hurry up and bloom so you can give us a scent report! :)
I'm wondering what type of support to use since I know it's vining in nature.
I'm sure I'll find some trellis or what not to support the branches.
Really hoping I'll enjoy this one's scent!

-Robert


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  • Posted by No-Clue So Cal Zone 10 (My Page) on
    Fri, Mar 28, 14 at 20:55

I am still trying to figure out which Jasmine to get AGAIN. I'm leaning toward Belle of India but I afraid I will kill her yet again!

I do have good luck with Plumerias in general so maybe I will give this one a try as well! Bad Robert! Go to your room! You made Lynn want another plant! LOL

This post was edited by No-Clue on Sat, Mar 29, 14 at 16:40


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Ha ha! I know I'm not the first to entice ya with this one! ;)
I remember the link below from SimiDude from last year urging you to get one. :)

-Robert

Here is a link that might be useful: SimiDude's post


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Ha ha! I know I'm not the first to entice ya with this one! ;)
I remember the link below from SimiDude from last year urging you to get one. :)

-Robert

Here is a link that might be useful: SimiDude's post


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Robert, this is not nice to bring plumeria's into this forum :) there is a separate forum for that. I have been checking on this on 'plumeria' forum for a while but the fact of being a vine is discouraging. My sunroom has nothing but plants and I cannot think of getting another plumeria(vine form) to maintain indoors no matter how fragrant the bloom is...

I have made up my mind to not get this one and I am going wait for your updates on this since you bought it.


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Laugh. I know, Kandhi. Should've kept this to the plumeria forum however since so many plumeria growers have mentioned this being the most fragrant plumeria I had to share it with my fragrant friends. ;)
I too am worried about what I'm going to do come winter with yet another vining plant especially since it's an evergreen but it's too late now!
I'll let everyone know if I think the scent is worth the trouble or not. :)

-Robert


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Hi Robert !!

I have this one too!! ;-)

It hasn't bloomed for me yet, but i am looking forward to the day. This will be my second season to have this one. It is very skinny and I was really surprised how vine like it was too! (Hi Khandi)

You guys are to funny.. Had to confess, Robert !!! I can't wait to see yours bloom!!!

Have a great day everyone!,,

Laura


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  • Posted by No-Clue So Cal Zone 10 (My Page) on
    Sat, Mar 29, 14 at 16:45

Aha! So Simidude started it and now Laura has one too! What is a girl to do? I guess she will have to get both! Jasmine and plumeria. Lol

Do share when yours bloom Robert!

Hi Laura! Are you still dirty? 😉


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Hi Laura, I knew you would have this, keep us posted when it blooms. I am still waiting on for blooms on 'psycho' cutting you gave. Good to hear from you..


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Keep us posted Robert. This is one of the rare times that I'm happy that my garden is more on the shady side, there is no place for temptation ;-)


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Duplicate message!

This post was edited by true-blue on Sun, Mar 30, 14 at 14:14


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Ha ha! It's nice to see more and more of my friends also broke down and got this one!

Hi Laura!
I wish yours and Brian's would hurry and bloom so you guys can give us a scent report.
Who knows how long it will take mine to bloom especially since I haven't even received it yet. :)

Lynn,

Have you broken down and gotten one plus another Belle of India yet? ;)

True Blue,

Will do! :)

-Robert

This post was edited by robert1971 on Mon, Mar 31, 14 at 15:18


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Got my plumie today! It's about 13" tall. Doubt I'll see any blooms for a while. ;)

-Robert


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Congrats, keep us posted :-)


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Congrats Robert hope it does well for you :) here is my little guy

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Haha! Your little guy looks pretty big to me, Brian! Surely it will bloom for you this year?
I like the wire cage around it. Still haven't figured out how I'm going to support the branches! :)

-Robert


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haha :) fingers crossed Robert it does, if it does it will be my first ever Plumeria bloom :)
I know it has already started to grow out of tha wire cage not sure how best to support it either


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Hi guys!!!!

My tree is so thin and vine like, but it is leafing out after the dormant period. That's makes me happy. Im Not sure mine will bloom this year, but Im keeping my fingers crossed!!!

Lynn... I was clean. Lol, but I repotted my huge Adenium and it was a handful to hold!!! My Buddah belly tree. Lol. So I guess I'm just a little dirty!!! ;-)

Hi Kandhi. My tree was a gift from a friend who has a bigger tree. So he gave me his little one!! It's really a cute one, but I'm just not used to the stem being so thin . ( pencil like..). I can't wait to smell the fragrance.

Hi Robert !! Loved the picture of the Gardenia!! OMG. It's beautiful. It really is the best fragrance of any Gardenia I have ever smelled. That tree came from my mothers tree where I grew up. It is very sentimental to me and I,m pleased to share with you and my OKie friends... Xo

Take care everyone!!,

Oh, here is a pic of the Adenium I repotted today... Hope you like it Robert. Since its your thread, I hope you didn't mine. I just love the Caudex!!

Have a great night, everyone!!!

Laura


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I love the gardenia, Laura! Thank you so much for sharing it.

Your Adenium is very cool.
It reminds me of the Venus of Willendorf. :)

-Robert


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Hello everyone. I have one of these grafted Plumeria stenopetalas and it is growing an inflorescence. I'll add photos once it's more developed and let everyone know about the scent (which is why I got this plant as well)!


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Robert...

You are to funny.. I have another that looks like " David in Florence". ;-). If i post it, I'm afraid I will get kicked off... LMAO!!!

Cwvervanyes!!! Whooooo hoooooo!

That is exciting news... We will all be waiting to hear what you think...

I'm so excited for you!!! Congratulations!!!!

Take care,

Laura


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cwcervantes,

Congrats! Can't wait to hear a scent report on this one! :)

Laura,

Desert Roses can be quite anthropomorphic. ;)

-Robert


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I was reading about this in the Plumeria forum too, SimiDude just had to post how great it smells. I think Im going to succumb and just order one next pay day haha.


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Do it, Musaboru!
You shouldn't have any problems growing it where you live. :)

-Robert


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Musaboru...

You will love the fragrance!!!!

Fragrant... Loved yours too! It's nice and healthy !! I hope it blooms for you!

Robert .. I'm smelling Gardenias right now and I thinking of you!!!!

Lol.. As far as the adeniums Lol. You wouldn't believe some of mine . Maybe when it blooms ill just post. Everyone can just see this for themselves. What do you think? ;-)

Have a great weekend!

Happy Mothers Day!!!

Laura


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Ok I am going to do it guys. Good thing I am moving back to my dads house and will have more space again. Good to also tend to the plants I left behind every morning before work, it gets so much stress off me with so many things happening in my life.

Happy Mother's Day Laura!


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Love those old fashioned gardenia! They are huge. : )

Musa.. I still need to send off that dwarf plumeria I promised you last year. Can you pm your new address? I'll try to get it out either this weekend or next week.

I really want to try the stenopetala but I need to think of my sun-deprived growing area. I want to but I can't grow every plants.Lol. Maybe somedays...

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I think we all know that feeling kemistry :( and beautiful Gardenia Laura one of my all time favourite flowers :)


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Thanks for thinking of me and thank you for the lovely gardenia photo, Laura!

Mus,

Hooray! Yours will probably bloom before mine. :)

Kem,

Come on...join the P. stenopetala club already! Laugh.

-Robert


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Thank you Musaboru!,

I certainly appreciate your thoughtfulness... I had a wonderful day with my daughter, mom and my grandson... Priceless..

YES!! Did I read you are going to try? Whoooo. Hooo!! Love this!!! ( stenopetela) You will love this one when it blooms.... Yes!!! Enablers in action here.. LOVE IT!!! lol...

Glad you liked the gardenia Robert. I i do think of you especially when I smell something special... I still do the walk at night and will always do a " smell check " for you anytime!! ;-)

Fragrant!! I just wanted you to know that my " chicken Feet " are doing well.. No blooms yet, but I think they are ready to split and repot. They are doing great and are very healthy!! Thank you so much!!! ;-). I'll report on them again soon.

If you are ever interested in a " old fashioned". Just let me know. I'll root one for you!!! ;-)

Take care,

Laura


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Hi Robert. I found your post when I did a search on GW for P. Stenopetala. I thought I would share my experience with it.

3 summers ago(I cannot believe it has been that long all ready!), I went to Florida Colors for the 1st time. I went with my partner and his cousin. I was so excited when she pulled into the parking lot, that I literally jumped out BEFORE, the car was in park! The car was actually still moving..LOL! Both of them were laughing at me! Thank God Luke and Carol were not right there, or they too probably would have been also laughing!

I called a head of time, because we couldn't find the nursery, and Carol told me then that she would love to give me a guided tour. I was so thankful and super excited!

Carol met me on her golf cart, and she drove me all around the grounds. I was really luck in terms of timing. It was th 1st week of July, and almost all of the parent trees were LOADED with blooms! All I can say Robert is that it was like a sensory OVERLOAD!! I had never seen anything like Florida Colors! It was my first time ever going to a plumeria nursery. Carol was super generous, letting me pick whatever blooms I wanted!

I saw and smelled tons of blooms but I still remember smelling stenopetala for the very first time. We had not even got to stenopetala yet, and I was all ready smelling it! I wouldn't say that it had a gardenia fragrance per say. It was super sweet...maybe a cross between gardenia and jasmine? We were a ways away from it, and once we were right in front of it, I was drooling! Not only because of it's fragrance, but also because of it's unique shape. It is more vine like and in fact, they have supports helping to hold it up.

The inflos themselves looked different. The buds were thinner, but the tree was loaded with inflos and buds. The flowers themselves reminded me more of jasmine, but they were much larger.

All I can say is that I was hooked! I didn't buy one right then like I should have but I did order one this past spring.

I consider myself to be very lucky. As I said earlier, it was my first trip ever to Florida Colors. Luc had passed away around a year later. I liked him a lot. Him and Carol helped me to find the trees I was looking for. Carol told me that they were experimenting on growing stenopetala in those lined wire baskets, I wished that I had asked to see them then. Carol told me that because they grow more vine like instead of like a tree, they thought it would be good for basket culture. Hetty Ford(she is friends with Luc and Carol, and she has an extensive collection of plumeria), received a wire basket with 2 stenopetala planted in it. Luc planted them and gave it to her as a gift. I asked Hetty if she could show me pics of hers and even though, the trees were still small, both were blooming and she said she was going to have to transplant one of them out.

I also think anyone that buys a tree from them, has a good shot at getting blooms the first year. If not, the second year.

I love the basket idea because if you need to save on space, then this is a good option. Like everyone has been saying, this species has a natural vining habit to it, so once the tree gets late enough, the vines will naturally grow over the side of the pot and just hang over.

Like I said earlier, I got mine in spring of last year....probably around May. I planted it the same day, and right now, I have it in full sun, hanging on a Shepard hook. The plus about using the coconut husk lined wire baskets, is that they drain pretty fast. As long as you use a porous mix, root rot shouldn't be a concern.

I also should point out that Florida Colors offers a hybrid of stenopetala. It is a tree form, and from what I have been told, the fragrance and the flowers are the same.

I hope everyone posts pics of there stenopetala when it blooms!

I also wanted to get some opinions on jasmine. I have had luck growing them in the past. Right now I would like to get my hands on a jasmine sambas hybrid. I cannot remember the name but Logees greenhouses sells it. The flower looks just like a mini white carnation. I had never seen a double(or maybe even a triple) flowered jasmine before!

Andrew


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Hi Andrew!

Thanks for the lengthy reply!
Now I'm super excited to sniff mine if and when it ever blooms. Laugh.

I like the basket idea since mine has grown to the point where I'll either have to provide some support or let it trail down as it would do in a basket.
The only drawback I can think of is winter storage.
Seems like a hanging basket would be harder to store inside during the winter than an upright plant in a pot but I'll give it some thought. :)

Oh, I think the jasmine at Logee's you are referring to is called ‘Flore Plena’. It looks similar to 'Mysore Mulli'.

-Robert

Here is a link that might be useful: Logee's jasmine


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Hi Robert. So sorry that I didn't respond to this sooner!

For me, hearing that I could grow a plumeria in a hanging basket was very exciting! I have WAY too many potted trees, and it has become a serious space issue for me. Also, not having many fragrant vining plants made this purchase a big plus for me. I have a Hoya, my stenopetala, and now(thanks to you) I have my jasmine.

My stenopetala has grown about three inches this summer, and it is showing no signs of stopping. Our weather this summer has been so cold and wet, and I am pleased to see that it is still plugging along.

Robert, I doubt you will be disappointed when your stenopetala blooms for you. I am all ready thinking I will plant at least one more wire basket with another stenopetala...LOL! I just wish that this species was easier to propagate, but from what I have heard, it does not root readily from cuttings.

Andrew


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Andrew, no problem. Glad you nabbed the GDS! :)

So this morning after I was done watering my 5 zillion potted plants on a lark I decided to inspect P. stenopetala and lo and behold I think I have a tiny inflo! Woo hoo!

Sorry for the crappy grainy cell pic but I thought it was better than nothing. ;)

-Robert

This post was edited by robert1971 on Thu, Aug 21, 14 at 9:10


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Ohhh. Yeaaaaa!!

;-)

Laura


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Congrats, Robert, now the waiting starts!


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Thanks guys!
And yes, now I'll be looking at that sucker every day, impatiently waiting. Laugh.
Maybe I'll have pics for the Blooming in September thread. :)

-Robert


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wow congrats Robert no sign of buds on my Stenopetala yet :( but fingers crossed for your little bud :)

I do have what i think is buds on my artabotrys hexapetalus :) i have counted 3 so far.
Here is a pic what do you think?

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Thanks, Brian! I hope yours finally decides to produce some inflos as well!

Hmm...I've never grown that plant but it sure looks like buds to me! Hope it blooms soon.
Let us know your thoughts on its scent if it does. :)

-Robert


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Shouldn't be much longer!
This one seems to not take long to open its flowers but I guess I shouldn't count my chickens before the eggs hatch. ;)

-Robert


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"chickens before the eggs hatch" mmm i have done that before on a orchid spike that got munched on by a slug! did not touch the flowers just munched the bottom of the spike :( so keep a eye out Robert
What soil mix are you using and what feeds?


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Robert, I wish yours:

Tick, Tock, Tick!

Instead of Tick, slug!, Tick!

Fragrant that's awful!


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I know you can wait all year for some orchids to flower and then a slug comes along and does that! its enough to put you a bad mood for the rest of the day :(


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I've been through what you say, fragrant. I've had whole plants devoured, before I could say, slug. That's the risk we take growing plants.

On a lighter note, you can design a beer moat around your orchid ;-)


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You guys are scaring me with all this slug talk!
I've got some orchids with buds and now I'm terrified! Laugh.

Brian, I use the gritty mix for the plumies and have the all purpose 15-5-9 Dynamite slow release fertilizer in the potting medium and use Dyna-Gro Foliage Pro every couple of weeks (the same feed I use on all my plants except for the orchids). :)

-Robert


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I slug hunt at night and see them on my trees.. I take those little buggers and throw them Into my pond with my frogs. Lol.. I guess my frogs really love me! ;-)

I also use foliage Pro 9-3-6. Works great and I'm a fan of Gritty mix and 5-1-1

Hi Robert !!

Hi true blue!! Fragrant!! Aloha!!!!

I can't wait Robert It driving me crazy. Love this one. My friend in Cali had his blooming while I was there and it was heavenly... Ahhhhh!

Take care!!

Laura


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Congrats Robert! I keep looking at mine and still, no inflo :( I just got mine this spring from Florida Colors. I potted it in one of those coco lined wire baskets. I do like the way it drains. I just wonder how long the liner will last. Well I guess there is only one way to find out! Looks like stenopetala inflos grow a lot faster than most plumeria inflos!

I cannot wait for an update on this, and I also want to hear your opinion on the scent. I toured Florida Colors in July. I think I hit it just right. Most of there trees were loaded with inflos and flowers so I got to smell tons of blooms and this one left a lasting impression for sure! In fact, I all ready decided it won't go dormant this winter. I am going to keep it in front of a window and hope it rewards me with an inflo!

Andrew


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It's getting to the point where I want to strangle it and yell 'Come on already! ' ;)

-Robert

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Ah, Robert, what extremes do plants go to teach us patience :-)


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I know, I know...and our technologies just make it worse since we're so used to getting everything now, now, now! :)

Hopefully I won't have to wait much longer to finally sniff this beauty.

-Robert


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Hey Robert. That is one heck of a nice inflo! Looks like your going to have a bunch of flowers :)

I checked mine again and still no inflo. I am starting to regret not buying a larger tree when I was at Florida Colors a few years ago.

Do you know Hetty? She lives in Florida. She showed me a picture of her 2 stenopetala that she has growing in one of those coco lined wire baskets. Luc planted it and gave it to her as a gift. The trees were still small when the pic was taken but both trees were blooming! She told me that she was going to have to separate the trees because they were getting to big.

Congrats on your inflo. I can't wait to see it bloom!

Andrew


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