try doing an online search for 'chuck hayes' or 'kleim's hardy' gardenias. they are advertised as being hardier(to zone 7) than the other cultivars. potential sources should be found by doing that. i have not seen either of these at local garden centers yet, so mailorder may be your only option.

Thank you very much, Jeff. It seems chuck hayes is what I want. Do you know whether it will survive well on well drained clay soil?

Thanks,

Kai

Kai, before you order online, check at your local Lowe's. The Lowes' in Wilmington, NC (admittedly NOT central VA) had lots of them last weekend. They were only about $4 each and looked great.

Allie

Wow! $4 !!

The Chuck Hayes plants I got a month and a half a go or so were $35 each (I snapped up 3 immediately due to
my having spent about 1.5 years trying to get one).

Wow, $4....

Mike

Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:789966}}

$4?! That's incredible. My local Lowes does not supply Gardenia. I just checked few days ago.

Funny thing is that I did research on internet on "Chuck Hayes" and found out it was originated from UVA. I graduated from UVA and am still living in Charlottesville, but I just can't find any local store selling those. I asked the best nursery in town but they have never heard about a cold hardy Gardenia.

Kai

Kleim's Hardy is available from bluestone for $7-8 I think.

I believe they are only currently offering pre-sales for the spring.

~Chills

It should be carried by nurseries like Great Big greenhouse in Richmond. If not, they will order it for you so you can get a sizeable plant. Same is true of most any local nursery.

I got a nice, Kliem's at www.ecolage.com Type in gardenia..They're on sale right now..the Kliem is a little over a foot tall. Toni

Kaihui drive to McDonald's Garden Center in Hampton VA. They have Chuck Hayes gardenia. Best call them first though.

McDonald Garden Center
1139 W Pembroke Ave
Hampton, VA 23661-1119 Phone: (757) 722-7463

Hi, Molineux,
Thanks. Hampton is about 3 hours from here. I live in Charlottesville. I think I will try mail order first.

Kai

Hi, Kaihui,

You can find Gardenia from http://www.logees.com/prodinfo.asp?number=R1274-2.

Yunsheng

I bought the Griff's select from Parks Seed. It is supposed to be hardy to zone 6. We'll see...

Logees has it available online.

my garden club bought 5 griff's select and are trying them at different sites zone 6 n 7 will see if they survive

Hi, John,
Please do let us know how they go. Some cold hardy gardinia are claimed to cold hardy to zone 7, but they die sometimes.

Kai