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Is TyTy Nurseries legit?

Posted by ChrisMS MS z8a (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 17, 05 at 14:41

I bought a Eureka persimmon from them a few years ago and it has set its first crop. That's good, but I find their Web pictures misleading. It looks like they sometimes have people holding fruit but you can tell the fruit has been superimposed.

God bless.


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No, they are not legit. If you want to read some amazing stories, look them up on gardenwatchdog.com.


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  • Posted by Amyta z8 mid GA (My Page) on
    Wed, Aug 17, 05 at 16:43

Yes, bad rating on gardenwatchdog!


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All I know is that I bought some bamboo and blueberry bushes from them a few years ago, only to learn that I could have gotten those items from sellers on ebay for a lot less. Their shipping rate, especially, was rediculous.


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  • Posted by Gail z7bGA (My Page) on
    Fri, Aug 19, 05 at 8:50

TERRIBLE rating on gardenwatchdog. A message has been posted by the moderators of gardenwatch dog that folks who work for TyTy are posting glowing and totally unbelievable reports (i.e, they unpacked their fruits trees which, amazingly, produced fruit during the time the trees were being shipped; some guy said he purchased pecan trees two years ago that are now producing despite the fact that it takes this particular variety 10 to 12 years to begin producing).

An awful company it appears.

Gail


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I ordered a che, cudrania tricuspidata from them and they sent me a stick , no roots no leaves, just a stick.


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I'll have to check out this gardenwatchdog.com .
Sounds like a good resource.


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Usually, nothing but sorrow and frustration awaits those who fall prey to TyTy's catalog.
But, it is amusing reading, if you're into extreme exaggeration and cheesy doctored photos.
There was a hilarious thread on TyTy over on the Alabama Gardening forum, but I guess it's gone away - couldn't find it there anymore.


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I took one look at that website, and I could see it was exaggerated. I live where they grow most of those tropicals, and they don't even look that good here!


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  • Posted by Gail z7bGA (My Page) on
    Mon, Aug 29, 05 at 9:20

On their website, the picture of their "plant specialist" looks like someone who might mug you.

Gail


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Gail - ROTFLMAO!
That 'wife-beater' really gives him the professional plant specialist look. NOT!!!


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I got a kick out of their online photos too. In some cases it looks like they clipped out Abercrombie models and cut and pasted plants into the shot. LOL.

I would like to add that they are selling invasive species such as pop corn tree/ Chinese Tallow.


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I saw that thread on the Alabama Gardening forum too. I think it was the funniest thing I've seen on the forums so far.


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Garden Watchdog dropped the ball. Who's going to pick it up?

Anyone want to register and manage tytysucks.com?

Rich


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I stumbled onto their website and called them about their persimmons. The guy didn't know there were both male and female trees.

Another caveat: the guy who runs TYTY runs another nursery by a different name. It was funny because I called TYTY, talked to the guy, hung up and shook my head, then called this other nursery and THE SAME GUY ANSWERED! LOL! I didn't immediately notice, but within about 20 seconds of talking to him I'm like, "hey, didn't I just talk to you? Aren't you the guy from TYTY???"

Sorry but I cant remember the name of this 2nd "stealth" TYTY nursery... something like Joey's Nursery only that's not it.

I will NEVER order from them under any circumstances.

caveat emptor!!!


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According to this recent article from the Ft. Laurderdale Sun Sentinel, the owner of TyTy is named Pat Malcolm.

I know what you're all wondering now... Why was this article in that news paper? And that's an excellent question. I guess I wasn't the only Floridian that had to import trees from other states.

Anyway I tried to search with that name on the GA secretary of state website to find if there were other businesses but there were no results.


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  • Posted by farkee 10 B South Fl. (My Page) on
    Tue, Jan 3, 06 at 14:28

I saw that Sun Sentinel article and I composed an E-mail to the reporter and was going to include a link to Garden Watchdog critiques of Ty Ty but now I can't find Ty Ty on Garden Watchdog at all. Anyone know if it is listed as something else. Thanks


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GardenWatchdog yanked all commentary and ratings about TyTy some time ago. Don't know why, but I figure it has to be over some legal issues. The reviews were blistering.

Someone in another posting was kind enough to cite other nurseries that are owned by the same operation.

Other companies listed at the same location in Ty Ty are:
Aaron's Bulb Company
New South Nursery
Aristotle Willis Company
Plantation Bulb Company

BEEEEWARE!!!!


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  • Posted by farkee 10 B South Fl. (My Page) on
    Wed, Jan 4, 06 at 0:40

Gosh, to yank a company off the list sure makes Garden Watchdog worthless. I remember reading the Ty Ty negative comments and really hated when that reporter mentioned that company in the newspaper in a very positive light and gave them all that free publicity. In adddition, employees making positive entries to counter negative reviews makes the validity of any information at the site suspect.


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Let's face it, the place is a fricken ripoff and the people running the place are misleading everyone. From what I've heard and seen, don't buy from those jokers. Banana Joe


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Malcolm sued gardenwatchdog and simply had too much blood money to spend on his case. Dave had to, reluctantly, withdrawl the info on tyty and the linked companies. Its pretty sad really. Dave said he is working on a disclaimer to the effect of "if a company isn't listed, be very thorough in checking them out"... if ya know what he means. Tyty is a problem and the GA Attorney General should have shut them down years ago.


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In one of thier ads for palms they have one of their socalled experts in the foreground of the pic. lighting up a smoke. Wow, that looks really cool, what a joke!! Banana Joe


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10 pecan trees, all dead........


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LOL


Double LOL

The pictures are just so funny I can't help myself.


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OMG. The pictures are so gay. And then there's a picture pasted from an old Maidenform bra commercial. What's the caption on that one? I dreamed I was swindled in my Maidenform bra?


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  • Posted by gail z7bGA (My Page) on
    Fri, Jun 2, 06 at 9:54

Can I order any of the male models when I put my first order in?

And what's with the group of superimposed cows laying the the field of "planting grapes"? Do they work around the cows?

Gail


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I just checked the web site. The pictures are funny. They just don't look like any gardener I ever seen!

BTW, google TyTy and you get several negatives.


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These threads here at gardenweb get indexed very quickly. Maybe if we keep this one bouncing around a while, it will do some good.


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Quirkyquercus,
I just about busted a gut over those pictures you posted! Chezron


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I found this list of suspected TYTY affiliates.

Blackberry Plant Nursery
African Amaryllis Bulb Nursery
Apple Tree Nursery
Bunch and Seedless Grape Vine Nursery
Pecan Tree Nursery
Tree Nursery
Aaron's Bulb Farm(part & parcel of TyTy) also does business as:
Aaron's Amaryllis & Canna Bulb Farm Nursery
Arron's Flower, Tree, and Shrub Nursery
Arron's Nursery with other listings
Aaron's Bamboo Nursery
Aaron's Daffodil Nursery
Aaron's Leucojum, Tuberose, and Eucomis Nursery
Aaron's Allium Nursery
Aaron's Clivia Nursery
Aaron's Agapanthus Nursery
Aaron's Elephant Ear Nursery
Aaron's Ariod Nursery
Aaron's Iris Nursery
Aaron's Ginger Lily Nursery
Aaron's Hymenocallis Nursery
Aaron's Crinum Lily Nursery
Aaron's Banana Tree Nursery
Aaron's Perennial Nursery
Arron's Fruit Nursery
Apple Tree Nursery
Blackberry Nursery
Blueberry Nursery
Fig Tree Nursery
Grape Vine Nursery
Pecan Tree Nursery
Peach Tree Nursery
Persimmon Tree Nursery
Plum Tree Nursery
Citrus Tree Nursery
Pear Tree Nursery


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vroomp-
None of those names are listed by the GA Dept. of Agriculture's in their current Nursery Book of Growers. Even TyTy Nursery or the Nursery at TyTy isn't listed. The only listing is The Nursery(a/k/a New South Nursery) at that address. Makes you wonder if they are ever inspected by Tommy's rep down there? Maybe they should descend upon the place, like a horde of locusts and inspect every plant on site! It is their responsibility to insure that EVERY plant offered for sale to the public is healthy and free of disease and pests.
Rb


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Oh boy, I was just about to place a order with Aarons nursery, until I found this site. Opps
do you allow a Tn. gardner on this site?
Norm


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Welcome, Norm. Glad you found this posting before you ordered. Hope it helps other Tennessee gardeners too.


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No, you're not allowed to come to this site, it's only for Georgia.

LOL Hey, I'm just messin'. Of course you can. Welcome.


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someone on the bamboo forum has a tyty question too ya'll


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I ordered from them one time, back in about '97 or '98. Yes, I realize they're a couple of zones warmer than me, but to receive bareroot plums, fully leafed-out, in mid-February in KY is a sure-fire recipe for a dead tree. The 'Black Giant' mulberry I got at the same time was nothing more than a weedy, small-fruited M.alba seedling - just like any other you'd find growing in a fenceline or roadside ditch - and with poorer fruit quality than many I've sampled.
When several of the things I ordered from them either arrived dried-up and DOA, died immediately, or failed to ever show any signs of life, I contacted them, and they told me to dig 'em up, package 'em up and send 'em back - and they'd refund me the purchase price.
Yeah, right. I'm sending the dead sticks back to them and incurring another shipping charge? I don't think so.

Every once in a while I look and see something there I'd like to have, but there's no way in lleh that I'd send those b@st@rds another red cent.


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http://tytyga.com/images/berries/1.jpg
http://tytyga.com/1.jpg

(I'm having trouble getting them to link; just cut and paste the address)

Are they competing with Abercrombie and Fitch???

That is one strange web site. I was honestly afraid to click on the "Nut trees" section, but it was relatively benign.


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I just visited their site, based on the comments here. Hysterical! What are they really selling?!?!


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From the sound of things, dead plants and the wild experience of credit card fraud.


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Phew! I was gearing up to go shopping for trees at TyTy's this september by printing out pictures of my desired trees. But after reading all your comments, there's got to be something not right with TyTy. You all cannot be wrong.
I'm now back to square one; shopping for a nursery. Any suggestions please?
I want to buy oak trees(5), cherry trees(3), crabapples(3), Nellie R. Stevens Hollys(60), peach trees(4), apple trees(4), Loguat trees(4), camellias(3), e.t.c; and I'm considering very small trees due to cost.
What do you think of Home Depot Landscaping? Are they alright? If I'm to consider a nursery, which are the best nurseries here in Georgia?
I'm crying out like Little Richard, "Somebody help me please". Seriously.


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I'm not sure where you're located but Northside gardens (Buford) has some small sizes like 3-5 gal trees. I think they have a great selection of fruit trees too. It's where I bought my dwarf apples. In the spring Lowes had a million peach trees about 7 gal for $16.
I noticed Kipatrick's (Buf or Braselton? not sure) has a nice selection of small container size trees too. I still think Pikes is #1 though. There's also Forest Farm for mail order sizes and they have everything known to man but since they are in OR the shipping charges cancel out any savings from buying locally.


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Not knowing where you are annah, but the Home Depot in Pooler (right off I-95 at the Savannah airport exit) has a gal, who if she isn't a horticulturalist she's close enough and REALLY knows her stuff. I only go there on Sundays but she's usually there.
Also highly recommended in this area is Four Seasons Nursery-both the father and oldest daughter are horticulturalists with degrees. If it won't grow here or is invasive etc, they won't carry it.


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Home Depot Landscape Supply has a good selection of plants in general, not sure about fruit trees. One place that I found fruit trees is Buck Jones Nursery in Woodstock. In the spring they had apples, peaches, plums, even paw paws.

Here is a link that might be useful: Buck Jones


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Pinebush Nursery, just outside Athens, has a good selection of trees and their prices are really great.

http://www.pinebushnursery.com/sys-tmpl/door/

They don't grow any fruit trees but they do have a good and healthy selection of blueberries.

Here is a link that might be useful: PineBush


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annah,
If you actually went, in person, to TyTy and picked out your specimens, you *might* be OK, but I would never, ever, ever recommend placing a mail order with them.
But, if you can find the plants you want from a reputable source, I'd recommend getting them there and not providing TyTy with another penny.


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And if anybody really goes to this place, they have to take pictures of the staff. We want to see what they REALLY look like!


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Hi everyone, I'm back. I appreciate all your response. Thank you quirkyquercus, cindyabs, esh_ga, jennifratrix, lucky_p, rhizo_1 and everyone else here.

I asked Mr.Reeves (http://www.walterreeves.com) the same question and he thinks Home Depot or Lowes would have the lowest prices.

And look what I found from his website; a link to Georgia Forestry Commission and their prices blew my mind! http://www.gfc.state.ga.us/Seedlings/documents/SeedlingPriceList0607rev.pdf

I'll check out Northside Gardens, Four Seasons Nursery, PineBush Nursery and many more.

Esh_ga, I went to that Home Depot Landscaping in Woodstock and I liked it too. They are willing to offer me a 10% off my entire purchase of trees if I use my Home Depot cards.

If I find out more information that may help someone I'll post it.

Thanks to everybody.


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Interesting. The GFC is selling crepe myrtles.
Anyhoo. Just about all of that stuff you can dig for free at plant rescues or along roadsides. The morons in my HOA have decided to clear "weeds" (trees) for no apparent reason. Got plenty waiting for you here before bushhog gets it. Lots of yel poplar, Maple, sycamore, swt gum, river birch, lob pine.


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Oh boy I just had to see what every one was talking about.You're right the adds are odd and funny are they selling plants or rent boys?


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I finally checked out their website. I heard the horror stories before I ever came across them online so had not bothered with checking out the website. You'd think advertisers would go after them for stealing pictures. And, what is the deal with the people smoking in the pictures? There are several and if you are going to steal pictures of pretty people to super-impose, why pictures of people smoking? Do they just have lots of cigarette ads laying around? Weird!


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...and i was just thinking of buying some things from them...anyone know of a LEGIT place where I can find low chill requirement peach and other fruit trees?

Here is a link that might be useful: My Chi Machines


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i bought three trees from ty ty amonth ago. #1 a nc cannonball walnut, three hair roots on one side. #2 blackwalnut, 5 hair roots on one side, #3 heartnut three hair roots on one side. Their answer? I am sure you got what you paid for. those are heeled in sticks. the picture of the walnut shows them all in pots. but they ship no pots he said. i didn't expect a pot just a nice bare root to plant. now i am nt sure there is a breed nc cannon ball.


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I just looked through the Georgia Dept. of Agriculture list of plant growers and dealers and TyTy is not listed. Couldn't even find the address listed that shows on their website.

I've never ordered from them (and won't), but if you have, and have been burned why not call or email Tommy Irvin. The Dept. of Ag. site says you get to talk to a real human if you call between 8:00 am and 4:30 pm, est.

Click on Divisions and you can find the listing of dealers and growers.

Here is a link that might be useful: Ga. Dept. of Agriculture


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I wonder why my post is not showing up? I posted it yesterday.

Here is a link that might be useful: uinternet


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abayomi,
Check out the offerings at Just Fruits & Exotics, in Crawfordville, FL. A legitimate nursery that probably has what you're looking for. I don't know about shipping to Bermuda, though.

Here is a link that might be useful: Just Fruits & Exotics Nursery


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thanks to all of you for this thread. I was about to make a significant order from tyty. Thank goodness I couldn't remember the url and googled it.


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I must be the one person on this planet that has had good luck with TyTy. I bought four 2-year blueberry bushes from them last month. I was very happy with the ordering process, speed of delivery and quality of the plants. I ordered on a Friday, they shipped out UPS Ground on Monday and arrived Tuesday. The plants were labeled with their variety and the healthy bare root balls were packed in some sort of moisture-holding gel. My only complaint with them was the relatively high pricing ($64 total with the shipping). I've actually been recommending others to them...Oops! Guess I'll have to think twice before ordering from them again or recommending others do the same.
Tom (Helena, AL)


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Listen folks.. they had over 90 negatives on watchdog before Dave pulled the company after getting told they would sue.. Stay away from this company!!

The deliverance inbred answering the phone answers "nursery" when you call.. I now see all the companies they fall under. It would be interesting to ask which one you'd called. Don't buy from them ever. I'm so grateful for google and all the folks that will be saved the hassle from ordering and losing out.

Susan


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I have to say this might be my favorite picture on the site.

Here is a link that might be useful: David Statue


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  • Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
    Wed, Feb 21, 07 at 1:39

Perhaps they spend more time on playing with Microsoft Paint then they do on customer service?


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Within the past year, I bought a 5-6 foot mulberry tree from Ty Ty, because no nursery here in SE Texas carries mulberry trees. I wanted the tree to attract birds.

I called Ty Ty before mailing in my order, to be sure they had the mulberry in stock. The man who answered the phone was very helpful and very nice. The shipping charge is 25% of your order total, which in my mind is very fair, considering the large specimen I purchased was going to be shipped, wrapped securely in cardboard, through the mail and delivered right to my front door--all the way from Georgia to Texas.

The tree arrived, and I was VERY pleased. We planted it last fall when it arrived, and it is now spring, and this tree is covered in fresh leave sprouts. Our other mail order mulberry, purchased from a very old, established nursery that sold seeds and plants via mail order catalogs before the Internet was invented, arrived 1 foot tall (which is what I expected). So far, it has shown no signs of life this spring.

I would definitely buy from Ty Ty again. When I first saw the photos on its Web site, I recognized them for what they were--eye catching and splashy artistic photos created by the Web designer from commercial software. I like the creative look, but at the same time I realized they were created photos in which the end product is depicted--mature fruit/flowers, etc., you will realize in a few years off that variety.

I do not know the people at Ty Ty nor am I related to them. I had a very good experience.


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Elmer, since I know some of the people who were ripped off and I don't know you, I'm going to have to say I don't believe you. But I wish you luck buying from TyTy again.


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I'm with you, Sugarhill!
elmer is a BRAND NEW member, having registered only today and I can't believe anyone who read this thread before ordering, would take the risk of being ripped off. Very suspicious! I'm getting a SALTY taste in my mouth.


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I wonder if Elmer is one of those "models" on the web site?


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That posters IP address does come back to texas then again that doesn't guarantee they're really there.


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I hadn't been to their website in ages but remember wondering what in the world possessed them to use all those male models. I was thinking something else was going on and I didn't have the secret code to get into the website behind the website. Here's a choice photo to demonstrate:

Here is a link that might be useful: Ty Ty boy


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Posted by elmer117 9 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 11, 07 at 10:25

Posted by elmer117 9 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 11, 07 at 10:25

Within the past year, I bought a 5-6 foot mulberry tree from Ty Ty, because no nursery here in SE Texas carries mulberry trees. I wanted the tree to attract birds.
I called Ty Ty before mailing in my order, to be sure they had the mulberry in stock. The man who answered the phone was very helpful and very nice. The shipping charge is 25% of your order total, which in my mind is very fair, considering the large specimen I purchased was going to be shipped, wrapped securely in cardboard, through the mail and delivered right to my front door--all the way from Georgia to Texas.

The tree arrived, and I was VERY pleased. We planted it last fall when it arrived, and it is now spring, and this tree is covered in fresh leave sprouts. Our other mail order mulberry, purchased from a very old, established nursery that sold seeds and plants via mail order catalogs before the Internet was invented, arrived 1 foot tall (which is what I expected). So far, it has shown no signs of life this spring.

I would definitely buy from Ty Ty again. When I first saw the photos on its Web site, I recognized them for what they were--eye catching and splashy artistic photos created by the Web designer from commercial software. I like the creative look, but at the same time I realized they were created photos in which the end product is depicted--mature fruit/flowers, etc., you will realize in a few years off that variety.

I do not know the people at Ty Ty nor am I related to them. I had a very good experience.

"When I first saw the photos on its Web site, I recognized them for what they were--eye catching and splashy artistic photos created by the Web designer from commercial software"

ONLY a person from Ty Ty would write this! LOL.... That is just too funny.


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I live about 45 minutes from TyTy and have gone by there many times on the way to the coast. Have stopped by twice and get a very odd feeling. It is definitely a strange place.


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Look who advertizes in Garden Bazaar

Here is a link that might be useful: Bazaar


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I especially liked the camellia blossoms that are bigger than people's heads, and seeing bamboo classified as a perennial (that's for sure). Did anyone checkout their wildlife management section? "Use our plants to lure animals so you can shoot them." Well, not many nurseries approach marketing from that angle, so I guess it's creative.

I really feel like visiting. With lots of back-up.


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Thanks for todays laugh, Elmer!


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Did you see the home page for ty ty? Those lemons are as big as... well, you'll just have to look.


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Oh my...

I had to check out that wildlife thing you just mentioned and came across this picture.
I was thinking of luring turkey and deer but I guess there are other things I can lure.


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woo hoo ! you're BUSTED elmer ! lol lol


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  • Posted by efam z7b GA (My Page) on
    Sun, Apr 1, 07 at 20:39

It does look like they've updated their website with all new pictures. Although, I'm a little disappointed that they have removed the picture of the woman smoking. That one made me laugh out loud every time I looked at it.


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  • Posted by hlyell 8 Jackson, MS (My Page) on
    Mon, Apr 9, 07 at 23:35

I'm not going to promote them. Where there's this much smoke there just has to be fire. However, suffice it to say that I had a recent positive experience with them (prior to finding my way to the online fig resources I've located in the last few weeks). Anyway, I'm just going to say a prayer of thanks I didn't get taken and quit while I'm ahead. Regarding the cheesy pictures of suspect-looking characters...the whole thing made me think they were probably all "toked up" when they took the pictures and also hitting the bong again later when they sat down with Photoshop and came up with some of the bizarre images they did...hah. Seriously...based on my personal experience (many years ago, of course...ahem), the pothead thing could explain a lot of it.


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Called TyTy Nurseries to order some grapevines since the recent frost destroyed my new vineyard. The man who answered the phone said he was sorry but did not have any more. After hanging up I decided to call back and ask some questions about my vines since some were leafing and others seemed too dormant. He asked me where I bought them to which he replied nastily: Call THEM! and hung up. I had already considered them my new source after viewing the pictures on their website. Attempting to email my reply about his obnoxious attitude toward potential new customers I found it strange that there is no email address listed on their site. While using Google to obtain an email address, I discovered this site and feel very lucky!


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I agree with the negative comments about Ty Ty Nursery. I recall ordering from their print catalog in the early 1980's, long before they had an Internet presence. One plant that I remember ordering was listed in the catalog as _Magnolia stellata_, or the Royal Star magnolia. The plant turned out not to be a _Magnolia stellata_ but a _Magnolia soulangeana_ cultivar. I'm adding this comment to the discussion simply as evidence that Ty Ty Nursery has a more than twenty-five year history of horticultural ineptitude and questionable business ethics. There is, however, a positive twist in my dealings with Ty Ty Nursery. The _Magnolia soulangeana_ they sent me has become one of my favorite Japanese magnolias. What I like about this Japanese magnolia is that in our Zone 7B garden in South Carolina this tree usually blooms after the late spring frosts and has a long blooming season. Unfortunately, this year's Easter Freeze caught this late bloomer in full bloom. Its flowers are medium-sized, which makes its appearance a little more delicate than some of the other Japanese magnolia varieties. I have three rooted specimens of this magnolia growing in large nursery pots waiting to be planted in the yard this fall.
However, the fact that I like my 'Ty Ty Special' _Magnolia soulangeana_ does not excuse the company from bungling that plant order a quarter of a century ago.


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I feel like I just dodged a bullet. I assumed all the weirdo pictures were done with irony so I just went along happily compiling a several hundred dollar order. I googled TyTy to check if I could get a better price on thier black bamboo and that is when I came across this thread - among others with similar commentary. Although I was puzzled that all the links to legitimate sources were gone.
So I decided to go to the Better Business Bureau to allay my fears hoping they were beyond the reach of this company and hoo boy! Here is part of the report:

BBB of W. Georgia-E. Alabama & S.W. Georgia
500 12th Street
Columbus, GA 31901-2137
706-324-0712
info@columbus-ga.bbb.org

Ty Ty Nursery
www.tytyga.com
4723 U. S. Highway 82 West
TY TY, GA 31795

The BBB reports on members and non-members. If a company is a member of the BBB, it is stated in this report.

File Open Date: 04/15/03
Principal: Patric Malcolm
Phone Number: 800-972-2101
Web Site Address: www.tytyga.com
Membership Status: This company is not a BBB member
Type of Business: Seeds & Bulbs-Retail
Mail Order & Catalog Shopping
Additional Business Names:
The Nursery

CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE

The Bureau processed a total of 52 complaints about this company in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period. Of the total 52 complaints in the last 36 months, 22 of those were closed in the last 12 months.

Complaints Concerned
Advertising Issues: 2
Outcome of all complaints -
Resolved: 1; :[1 - Company resolved the complaint issues. The consumer failed to acknowledged acceptance to the BBB.]: Administratively Closed: 1; :[1 - BBB determined that despite the company's good faith effort to address complaint issues, the consumer remained dissatisfied.

Sales Practice Issues: 1
Outcome of the complaint -
Resolved: 1

Delivery Issues: 5
Outcome of all complaints -
Resolved: 2; :[1 - Company resolved the complaint issues. The consumer failed to acknowledged acceptance to the BBB.]: Unresolved: 2; :[1 - Company failed to resolve the complaint issues through the BBB voluntary and self-regulatory process.]: Administratively Closed: 1; :[1 - BBB determined that despite the company's good faith effort to address complaint issues, the consumer remained dissatisfied.

Service Issues: 4
Outcome of all complaints -
Resolved: 3; :[1 - Company resolved the complaint
issues. The consumer acknowledged acceptance to the BBB.]: :[1 -
Company resolved the complaint issues. The consumer failed to acknowledged acceptance to the BBB.]: Unresolved: 1; :[1 - Company failed to resolve the complaint issues through the BBB voluntary and self-regulatory process.]:

Guarantees or Warranty Issues: 4
Outcome of all complaints -
Resolved: 2; :[1 - Company resolved the complaint issues. The consumer failed to acknowledged acceptance to the BBB.]: Unresolved: 1; Administratively Closed: 1; :[1 - BBB determined that despite the company's good faith effort to address complaint issues, the consumer remained dissatisfied.

Product Issues: 23
Outcome of all complaints -
Resolved: 16; :[7 - Company resolved the complaint issues. The consumer failed to acknowledged acceptance to the BBB.]: :[1 - Company offered a partial (less than 100%) settlement which the consumer failed to acknowledge acceptance to the BBB.]: Unresolved: 3; :[1 - Company failed to resolve the complaint issues through the BBB voluntary and self-regulatory process.]: Administratively Closed: 3; :[3 - BBB determined that despite the company's good faith effort to address complaint issues, the consumer remained dissatisfied.
]: No Response: 1; :[1 - Company failed to respond to the BBB
to resolve or address the complaint issues.]:

Refund or Exchange Issues: 10
Outcome of all complaints -
Resolved: 9; :[4 - Company resolved the complaint
issues. The consumer failed to acknowledged acceptance to the
BBB.]: Unresolved: 1

Billing or Collection Issues: 3
Outcome of all complaints -
Resolved: 3


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I swear dudes, I think I am in the wrong line of work.
IF you can get 52 complaints over 36 months and not just complaints but complaints where you ticked off the customer so bad that they complained to the BBB and they are still in business then I think I need to go into the nursery business.

Then again bank robbery sounds lucrative also. Did you know that only about half of bank robbers are caught?


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Oh man, I don't know how many times I considered buying from them. I figured all the cheesy stuff was just meant to be humorours. But after reading this I am so glad I waited on buying! I can't believe how many other names they go by. it's sickening that these guys haven't been shut down yet. Has anyone ever been to their physical location to observe?


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Wow! I am so glad I caught this one, I was just planning on ordering 5 tartarian, bing and black cherries (a mix 2/2/1) from them in the next 6-8 weeks. I even called to talk to the guy on the phone - who seemed rather disinterested in talking to me, put me on speaker phone and was eager to hang up with me before I felt I'd asked all of my questions.

I asked him if shipping would be a problem. "No."
I asked him when we could order. "We don't get them in till early November, they need to be planted at the end of the year."
He tried to get off the phone, but I squeezed in a question about watering frequency, "Water once the day you plant, then water once a week if rain is insignificant."

So, I suppose I have a couple of questions. I'm in the metro Atlanta area (Grant Park) and me and the neighbors are wanting at least two variants out of the three previously mentioned cherry trees. We would like them to be as mature as safely possible, no insignificant 1'-2' trees.

Anyone have suggestions on where to score said plants? I see a couple of the previous mentions, but ... they're a ways out there. My local non-chain nursery that I love to support can only get bitter cherries. We want sweet cherries.

Also, was he telling the truth about the time to plant these trees and watering?

Thanks for input, I *really* appreciate it. I have a super busy schedule and haven't been able to find anyone in their late 20's/early 30's nearby that I can talk about plant related matters nearby that doesn't scare the hell out of me (or have a clue), so I'm finding this to be a superb resource.


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oops, ok i am smacking myself. apparently sweet cherries just won't grow in the metro ATL area (at least after reading several other posts here at GWeb, it seems to be the case).

oh well, moving on to figs, plubs and blueberries then! guess i'll sign up for this Atlanta Fruit yahoo mail list.


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oops, ok i am smacking myself. apparently sweet cherries just won't grow in the metro ATL area (at least after reading several other posts here at GWeb, it seems to be the case).

oh well, moving on to figs, plubs and blueberries then! guess i'll sign up for this Atlanta Fruit yahoo group.


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I recently visited the nursery at ty ty....not impressed.
They must drop ship orders because with the plant inventory I observed, they couldn't possibly fill from their own nursery. I browsed for about an hour and only after being there (I was 1 of 2 customers) 30 mins did someone ask if I needed help.


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it serves it's purpose. you can get a good paw paw or fig. i'd go pick it up and not have it shipped though.


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My, My! How I wish I had found this thread before I ordered from TyTy. I checked Garden Watchdog first, and only got a message, "company not found" so assumed they were small or new, and proceeded with an order.

I ordered a crepe myrtle from TyTy because they were the only source I found that had it available to ship. It was defective a clear offshoot, not a seedling, and I never wouldve had a decent multi-trunked crepe. Additionally, it had large roots cut. I had pix and an expert opinion to back me up. I wrote a courteous, clear, email, asked for a replacement, and attached pictures in an effort to resolve the issue promptly.

I have never been treated so rudely by someone in my life as by the manager, named Todd, when I called to follow up on the lack of response. He told me he didn't care about any pictures or any email, that he is a "very busy man," that I had to fill out his form before he would consider replacement. I did fill out the form, with accompanying exhibits, and mailed it in.

I paid for a 7 gallon plant in mid-December, 2007. After 7 phone calls, one thorough email, and a certified mail, RRR, letter containing his form, a cover letter, a printed copy of the email, and more pictures, my 7 gallon tree was replaced with three one-gallon trees in February, 2008. It's ridiculous to even consider it an even exchange.

In retrospect, I should've known I would have trouble with a business that promotes itself on such a sophomoric website, but I was too anxious to get my tree in the ground during prime planting time in Texas.

I am of the Sam Rayburn philosophy of, "Dont get mad, get even." So, if any of you from Georgia can tell me an effective way to complain to effective regulatory authorities, please let me know, and I will do it. I searched the GA Secretary of States online listings and could find nothing. I had thought of contacting the owner, but after reading this thread, it seems that would be a futile gesture.


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I just purchased a Lucca Olive tree, an Agave Americana, and a Golden Rhino Horn Banana tree from TyTy.

When I placed my phone order, I wanted to buy a 2-3' Olive, but he told me they were out of stock so I ordered the 3-4'. You can guess what I got! The tree is a scrawny little twig and it's only 2.5' at best. The 2-3' was $28.95 while the 3-4' was $48.70. They ripped me off for $19.75 plus the shipping on that one.

The agave was supposed to be a 3 gallon size. It is also scrawny. It only has 2 leaves and one of them is damaged. It certainly isn't a 3 gallon size. That's another $20.00 rip off since the 3 gallon is $29.95 and the 1 gallon is 9.95.

I don't know what to think about the banana. I don't know one banana from the other so I can only hope I got the correct one. TyTy's web site claims that their mother banana roots reach 20' in length. I purchases a 'grandmother' for $39.95 that is supposed to bear fruit the first year, but the roots are only a couple of inches long. For that much money, I was expecting something much bigger.

As for their website - it's creepy. It looks like it's been put together by a porn company.


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If you believe you have been defrauded by this company or any company located in Georgia(USA), there are certain steps that you can take to obtain replacements or a refund.

Contact the company by phone, email or certified mail and demand the merchandise that was ordered and paid for.

If paid by Credit Card, contact the CC issuer and dispute the charges.

File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.
https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/GetStarted.aspx

File complaint with the GA Govenor's Office of Consumer Affairs. (Link below).

Also write to Tommy Irvin, Commissioner of Agriculture at:
tirvin@agr.state.ga.us or call 1-800-282-5852 and tell him that you have received plants from an unlicensed Live Plant Nursery in Georgia and they have not been inspected for diseases, pests and noxious weeds. Demand that he insure they provide healthy, true to name and size plants or else shut them down! According to the Live Plant Nursery Book, they have not held a valid license for several years.

If all else fails, here's a site that you may want to investigate: http://www.consumer-revenge.com/sec-index.html

Here is a link that might be useful: Georgia Governor's Office of Consumer Affairs


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I just spoke to the GA Dept of Ag, Plant Protection Div. The person who answered said of TyTy, "They are not an unknown entity," that the Dept. knows about them, they manage to stay just within the Ga. Ag guidelines. They ARE licensed. The issues I summarized are "common complaints." Basically, the Ag Dept. says that it has no jurisdiction over contract complaints, which is what we are all burdened with. The Ag Dept can only deal w/ complaints about whether a plant is alive and healthy, I think. So, it seems the next step is Gov. Office of Consumer Affairs, or some sort of a Consumer Protections/Deceptive Trade Practices division of the Ga Attorney General's office, assuming there is one. Those of you in GA will get much more response from a state office, so please voice your concerns.


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I'm wondering if the Ag Dept, Plant Protection Divn, was forthright when they stated that they were licensed. If you received dead plants, they should be concerned and take the necessary action.
When contacting them, Ask for the NAME of the licensed company, The type of license(there are 8) and the LICENSE NUMBER! I have just downloaded the Live Plant Book from the Plant Protection Divn and there is NO nursery in Ty Ty, Tift County, GA, listed.
My license is listed, along with everyone else I know in the business. What gives???
Maybe Mr.Tommy Irvin should personally become involved.
Rb


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  • Posted by mk87 7b/8a (My Page) on
    Wed, Feb 27, 08 at 10:42

Wow...am I EVER glad I read this thread. I have had TyTy bookmarked on my browser for some time. Hadn't ordered anything, but always thought the pix were weird. I just assumed somebody there had a bizarre sense of humor. Clearly, it's much more serious than that. I will ABSOLUTELY not order anything from them.


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I just received my March issue of Georgia Magazine which, I believe, is subsidized by Georgia EMC. In it is a full page ad for TyTy nursery. I immediately called the publisher and left a message saying basically, shame on you for promoting a company with such an awful reputation. She had someone call me and say the paid ad was not an endorsement and that I was the FIRST complaint they had ever had. Furthermore, they implied that since the stick I purchased was an occurence of 20 years ago, it wasn't legitimate. I referred them to this site. I also told them how TyTy employees would pose as customers and write in glowing reports. She retorted that I couldn't prove that. Anybody that wants to be the second person to EVER complain about them can contact the editor Ann Orowski through their website at
www.georgiamagazine.org. I think it would be enlightening for them to hear from a few other dissatisfied customers, especially from other states.


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Yes, eddie!, money talks!
The magazine will not refuse any ad, if it is accompanied by a check, even if they receive a thousand complaints from readers/subscribers.
It is a sorry state of affairs, when a media company will accept advertisments from a company, without any background checks, to determine their level of customer satisfaction/service.
A simple check with the SW GA BBB, would have been all of the investigating that was required.
All of the online Nurseries in GA will suffer, as many people equate their bad experience with one company, as the norm of all GA companies.
FWIW, I am not a current subscriber of Georgia Magazine, having found it contained very little of interest.


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  • Posted by rjinga middle ga, zone 8 (My Page) on
    Mon, Mar 3, 08 at 11:13

"It is a sorry state of affairs, when a media company will accept advertisments from a company, without any background checks, to determine their level of customer satisfaction/service"

Welcome to what AMERICA has been reduced to.. you see it on every plain. Just consider what is happening in regards to our presidential election process. The MEDIA has decided for us (republican or democrat for that matter) who will be our next president. Just pay attenion to who gets all the press time. So what about the other candidates...they are not media faves so they get tossed to the side...forget that the race (especially with the republicans) is neck in neck for the most part...The MEDIA wants McCain, so that's the only person they will allow to be seen.

Makes me sick


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Posted by wabikeguy 6b (My Page) on Wed, Apr 16, 08 at 15:20

Orderded 7 fig trees from AArons in Georgia (tye tye), Jan 3 08 for a March 22 delivery. Paid in advance. $148. March 22 came and went. No trees.
I've since called back 6 times. I have been told that they were "waiting for gel packs to ship my order and that it would be shipped "tromorrow", that they could not find my order (three times), that they found my order "on the desk" under another order" and that it would be shipped "immediately"."
April 16, it's "we can't find the order and are checking our files." They will call me back. Uh Huh...... No call back as of today the 18th. I called them back. They have no record of my order.
From what I've read, even if they do actually ship something I shouldn't expect much.

I'm writing this one off as a lesson learned.

Guess I'll try again next year. Maybe with someone local...


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Called back again today, was told by a male who refused to identify himself that they had no record of my purchase, was accused of trying to rip them off, and he hung up the phone.

Just now finished filing my complaint with the Georgia Better Business Bureau. Thanks to the earlier poster for the link. It was an easy process. Did it all on line and it took about twenty minutes.

More people should do this.....


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wabikeguy___
I would also file a complaint with the Georgia Governor's Office of Consumer Affairs, link below.
Unlike the BBB, they have enforcement powers and can force the company to meet it's obligations and/or be subjected to heavy fines.

Here is a link that might be useful: GA Governors of Consumer Affairs


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wabikeguy -

if you paid by card, don't forget to dispute the charge ASAP before it's too late!! call your credit card company ASAP.


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  • Posted by efam z7b GA (My Page) on
    Mon, Apr 21, 08 at 13:11

wabikeguy -
I would also call a local news station (in Atlanta) so they could do an investigative report. I know the local FOX station here has a phone number to call (see link).
I personally would love to see a news story on this place. :)

Here is a link that might be useful: Call for Action


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The saga continues.

I filed a complaint with the Georgia Better Business Bureau. They contacted TY TY and the owners (Leonard Crain and Ric Patrick) acknowledged receiving my payment and failing to ship it. Leonard Crain sent the BBB an e-mail (of which I have a copy) stating that he would "refund my order."

So all is well, right? Wrong.

He told the BBB they would refund my $148, the BBB closed out my file, and guess what?

No check.

Pretty funny. So now I've filed with the Georgia Office of Consumer Affairs and am getting in contact with Fox News Atlanta (Good idea, efam).

I am retired so I have plenty of time to pursue this. I doubt I'll get my money back, but maybe I can help get the word out on these clowns, and perhaps even be a catalyst for a criminal investigation.

Lesson learned. I still want to try figs up here (among other things), but from here out I'm going to buy locally and pick up my orders personally.......


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I bought four (4) one year old MEDJOOL DATE PALM TREES from TY TY NURSERY in DEC. 2006. I doubt they are Medjool palms though. Please check the attached link and please HELP identify the trees what they are.

Here is a link that might be useful: Are these Medjool Date Palms?


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On May 23, I finally received a full refund from Ty Ty (aka "Arrons" aka "The Nursery at Ty Ty") with numerous other DBA's.

For those of you unfortunate enough to do business with these people........here's what I did.

After 8 or 9 attempts to work with them on my own, I contacted the Georgia Better Business Bureau. This was a complete waste of time.

The Nursery owner, Patrick Malcolm, told the BBB that he sent me a refund and the BBB closed out my case. Only problem was........he never sent the check.

I next contacted the Georgia Dpt of Consumer Affairs. Nelson Mitchell handled my case and, within four weeks, I received my refund. Funny thing though. The check was dated April 28, 2008, but the envelope it was contained in was postmarked 19 May, 2008.

I would highly recommend that anyone having difficulty with this "nursery" (and I use the term loosely) contact the Georgia Office of Consumer Affairs like I did. I have included their address and phone number below:

Governor's Office of Consumer Affairs
2 Martin Luther King Jr., Drive SE, Suite 356
Atlanta, Georgia 30334-4600

Phone: 404-651-8600


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My experience with the Ty Ty Nursery began in the late eighties with a messed up mail order(an advertised Turk's Cap lily was an Atamasco lily instead and a Chestnut tree was left off.)

When I telephoned the nursery I was told to send them a copy of my canceled check to prove that I was telling the truth and they would send me the tree. After sending the copy and making several calls I did receive the tree-but it left me with a bad taste in my mouth-but not from Chestnuts; the tree died.

What might really interest the readers of this blog is that I can report that I have since visited this nursery (after receiving a gift certificate twenty years later.)

I was not impressed with the nursery.

Arriving with a list of items that interested me, the meager staff explained that they had little in stock because their suppliers had not sent stock yet (this was in January,2007.)

Unfortunately because they had nothing in stock I had to travel from my North Florida home to the nursery a second time-as I do not trust their mail-order system.

The second time I visited them was in May, 2008 and again they had almost nothing in stock that interested me but I was not going there again so I used the gift certificate on two ordinary, albeit large, ilex shrubs for my Japanese Garden.

The Ty Ty nursery had some fruit trees in pots but the majority of their fruit trees were bundled together and banked in soil. These were all deciduous trees that would be shipped bare-root in leaf when an order was filled.

Staff-busy? I've only been there twice but I've never seen the staff working. The place is about the size of an acre.

I noticed that a reader asked about reputable nurseries in Georgia and the one I am familiar with is Miller's Hardware in Valdosta (South Georgia) supplied by Monrovia.

The best Fruit Tree source that I know is Just Fruits and Exotics in Crawfordville, Florida -which I have also visited a few times and they are terrific. They graft their own Persimmon trees on local, native rootstock-I'm told. It is a really nice nursery.

They also have nice sized Olive Trees which another writer mentioned Ty Ty had failed to supply.

I won't ever buy from Ty Ty again.


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Waa HAHA ... Ty Ty Indeed !!!!!

I collect and grow hardy palms in ATL area. Their ratings of palm hardiness are a knee-slapping joke --- aside from the fact that they literally make up names of plants; e.g. "RAPTOR PALM" for NEEDLE PALMS and are more interested in their Abercrombie models than their plants ....

Visiting the TYTY website is great for entertainment, but you'd be a fool to actually order anything from these clowns.


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I wish I would have come across this forum last August BEFORE I placed an order with Ty-ty. I ordered a bunch of stuff... all said "fall shipment"...fall came and went and no trees... I had called several times where I was given the run around and finally told that they only ship when trees were dormant and I would get my order in Jan-Feb. Although I felt like this was false advertisement since everything said fall shipment, it did make sense to me, so I patiently awaited my order in January. Already not feeling quite right, I stayed on top of it and they heard from me at least once a week from the beginning of January. Persistence pays off... to a point. I was able to diseminate from the different calls, they really are just a middle man (false advertising again). They got different parts of my order from different sources... which wouldn't be so bad if they used really reliable sources, but I think they probably just use the cheapest to make the most money. I finally did receive my order... in full... not a single thing missing out of an over $650 order. In that order I had three larger blueberry bushes. Who ever their supplier is for those is pretty decent. They look pretty good and had a good bareroot base on them. As for pretty much everything else in my order, it appeard that someone had taken a good yank on the tree trunk and pulled it up by hand without any digging as most trees had very little to no roots left... the pecan trees I ordered must have been harder to yank out of the ground due to their tap root, so it appears that some Sherlock decided to take a shovel and chop the offending tap root off so they could finish yanking said tree out. Obviously, these trees won't survive... The blueberry bushes look to be very promising, and I'm glad that at least something I got seems to be worth while, but everything else either looks like it definately will not survive or would shock me if it did. I will not be ordering from them again... wish I knew who their supplier was for the blueberry bushes though... I'd definately order from them!! =)


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TyTy Nursery has been unreliable and dishonest for nearly thirty years. I stopped patronizing them when I discovered their unprofessionalism through personal experience. This "learning experience" occurred in the early 1980's, a number of years before the company had an Internet presence. I ordered what was listed in their print catalog as a _Magnolia stellata_, and a few other plants, two being a _Ficus carica_ 'Tennessee Mountain' and a _Punica granatum_ 'Plantation Sweet.' All the plants arrived and survived; however, the _Magnolia stellata_, or star magnolia, turned out to be a generic form of _Magnolia soulangeana_, rather than _Magnolia stellata_. Actually, I like the _Magnolia soulangeana_ well enough to have propagated it by layering some of its lower limbs. It's good in Zone 7b because it blooms late, and more often than not, escapes frost damage. The blooms are a little on the small side but profuse and typically pink washed with purple--all in all, a pretty, unknown-cultivar of _Magnolia soulangeana_. The point is that the plant turned out not to be what it was advertised as. And as with all small Oriental magnolias, it takes a number of years for them to be large enough to flower. At its flower time, I decided the company could have made "an honest mistake" and, thus, did not think about returning the plant and requesting a refund, especially in light of the fact that I genuinely like the plant.

My positive comments about the _Magnolia soulangeana_ should not be taken as praise of the TyTy Nursery. I am not here to praise this company but to help bury it. However, I am saying that my negative experience with this order was partially and serendipitously ameliorated by the positive attributes of the _Magnolia soulangeana_. Although the fig and the pomegranate survived, I think they are examples of TyTy's false advertising. I'm not at all sure that these plants are what they were advertised as. I think the State of Georgia should move against this nursery and force it to close its doors, if that can be done. (But then, let's not forget the nationwide salmonella outbreak and the Georgia Department of Agriculture's role in allowing the continued operation of the Peanut Corporation of America.) After years of ill repute, it seems that TyTy's business should have fallen off sufficiently for them to have gone out of business. Of course, the Internet fuels the TyTy Nursery by enabling it to draw in more naive customers from afar. _Caveat emptor_.


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For allowing this to go on all these years, Georgia Agricultural Comissioner, Tommy Irwin should be voted out of office.


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Let's try a little experiment entirely at my expense. Pleased by my previous two orders from TyTy, this past Sunday I ordered about a dozen nut trees to partially replant a forested area wiped out by Hurricane Katrina on the farm where I live. This included hickories and walnuts of various kinds which I easily found on the TyTy website. Then, as an afterthought, I went back and ordered half a dozen mayhaw trees, all online. When I did not receive a confirmation online, I called today and was promptly informed that they had my order and it be would shipped this week or next. I encouraged early shipping, as Spring has indeed sprung all over down here on the Mississippi Gulf Coast. I will keep you informed as to the progress of the order, the condition of the plants, and my overall impression of the service. If they screw up, I will tell you. If they do right, I will tell you, too.


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With the stories I have heard, I would never buy from Ty Ty. Never.

Even one look at the website tells you that something isn't right.

That is my free speech contribution.


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Yesterday (Friday), to my pleasant surprise, I received the balance of the order I placed the previous Sunday online. I received 2 American Chestnuts, 2 Shellbark Hickories, 2 White Hickories, 2 Thomas Black Walnuts, 2 Heartnut Walnuts, and 2 Ukrainian Walnuts. I did not pay for expedited delivery. With shipping the order totaled $435.85, averaging a little more than $36/tree, delivered. I cannot buy the variety of trees like this anywhere in my area. I have not unwrapped the trees yet, as I may not be able to plant today, but the appearance of the bundle of trees as wrapped together is good, and when I have opened the bundle I will report as I promised.


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My question of earldenham is that if you're such an experienced and knowledgeable gardener in a geographic region that is quickly moving into "high spring," why, oh, why are you planting fruit and nut trees in the spring instead of in the fall or winter? To most gardeners, that is nutty in itself--nutty like a fruitcake. Everyone, even a novice gardener, knows that the time to plant such things is fall or winter so that their root systems can become established before the onslaught of our searing Southern heat. Otherwise, you're inviting disaster. But to each, his/her own.


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Actually, Jay, the purpose in my writing is simply to report my experience with TyTy in ordering plants and not to debate anyone about anything. However, since you seem bent on portraying me as some type of a novice because of your personal dislike of TyTy, let me tell you that I certainly gave thought to "when" I planted and the inherent risks, as I see you have sense enough to do, also. But given the fact that I live in a post Katrina world I doubt you can envision unless you live here, we take our opportunities when they present themselves. The area that I am replanting has been slowly cleared throughout the last several winters, a few of the many damaged trees at a time, for the dual purpose of clearing the storm tangled woodslot and providing firewood, and as I saw the cleared area emerge this winter I envisioned for the first time a grove of nut trees, and I decided to plant it now and take a chance. There is still enough shade from water oaks that I will cut and split next winter to provide some shade, and the area is moist, beside a stream. We live on a little 17 acre farm and have about every fruit tree or bush you can imagine. Obviously along the way some died and were replaced. We raise goats, sheep and cattle and grow a huge garden every year. Farming is often a matter of chance taking. For instance, we planted corn a week ago last Friday, and if it doesn't freeze again we will have corn in May. If it does, then we will just replant. Tomorrow I will set in a few tomatos which may or may not make it the first time. Same with the trees. If they make it, given care, shade, water and mulch, they make it. If not, I will keep you informed on TyTy and how they handle their returned plants. Good luck with your garden.


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  • Posted by shot 8 - GA (My Page) on
    Tue, Mar 10, 09 at 15:09

Earl, if you are sincere then I must appogize to you sir. We have so many phonies that come online that we must watch for them.

Good luck in your endavors.

Shot


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No problem, Shot. Apology accepted. I got the nut trees all planted and the only comment of concern that I have is first that I would have wished for a little more fine root on a couple of the trees, though time will tell whether or not I ought to have any concern in that regard, and second a criticism, that one package of four trees, all being hickories of two different types, had only two of the trees labeled and looked so much alike that it isn't possible to tell which is what type for the two unlabeled hickories. Although for my purposes it doesn't matter, I mention this. It is such a small thing, but I promised to report fairly. Otherwise the trees were on unwrapping well hydrated as those I have received before and I am optimistic as one can be when dealing with bare root specimens. That is what a return policy is for. So I can report to you that I was well treated and that this third experience in ordering with TyTy thus far is a good one for me notwithstanding the goofy pictures in the ads. If in fact the others reporting real problems actually had them,and I am sure many did, I would hope that this forum may have served a real purpose in alerting TyTy to the consequences inherent with failure to deal well with unsatisfied customers, to the extent that the folks at TyTy may now try to do better. The logistics of running such a big operation, offering picky people like me a wide variety of healthy plants, is naturally going to create a logistical nightmare, and some problems are certain to occur. When you throw into the pool of the real gardners ordering plants a bunch of the pseudo gardners and blog nuts that you can easily pick out in this forum who have never dealt with them at all but just want to be heard, you really have a big job on your hands.


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Over the past couple of years I have purchased numerous plants from TyTy and i have written reports of the good quality and service that I had, posting them to this forum. The fact that I have had nothing but essentially positive experiences with TyTy has not always made some of the readers happy, and there was negative comment on my writing and character attacks on me by some of them to which I rationally and reasonably responded. Today I scanned this forum, and two of the three positive reports I wrote on TyTy are just gone, censored out. One of them had been posted for more than a year. I have read about such things happening in other countries, but I never fully appreciated the impact that seeing your comments erased from the public eye has until this happened to me in this forum. Where is free speech and the legitimacy of this forum when some secret censor reading the forum has the ability to maintain its negative comments on TyTy, purge its positive comments, and hold this forum out to be honest to its readers? Was the positive information on TyTy I shared with other readers just too much for someone with an anti-TyTy agenda to tolerate? The hypocrisy is absolutely palpable. So, I ask the question, how can this forum be legit?


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I, for one, can not see why anyone would be willing to risk my money with Ty Ty. Ty Ty is famous for censoring another forum, so I think "buyer beware" is the only option.


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It seems that, if Ty Ty would push (threatening lawsuit?) to have their entire Garden Watchdog page removed - a ratings site which was full of real-life (many negative) experiences folks had while shopping @ Ty Ty - that the removal of just 2-3 posts here @GW praising Ty Ty would be, if nothing more, 'just desserts'.

Mind you, I'm not an "eye for an eye" kinda guy, myself; however, the glint of balance I see of this seems .... appropriate, somehow.


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If they are legit why do they not have any way of sending them a e-mail? Why does the guy who answer the phone sound like a hillbilly redneck? Why am I having to have VISA get my money back for products that were never shipped to me? They are totally illegitimate! If not I would not be here trying to take them down. They messed with the wrong person here and you should hope your not the next one.


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Get over it earl!
I am surprised that you, being a lawyer, didn't read the fine print when you became a member of GW. They have the option of removing any material that THEY deem offensive to other members. And there's nothing more offensive than a new member, joining ostensibly to praise a longtime recognized, dishonest "business" that preys on uninformed customers.
I pray for anyone that places an order with that rogue outfit and summarily gets ripped off. If you have any compassion for your fellow man, place a size 12 in your mouth and keep it there. You aren't at all persuasive and are beginning to appear a damn fool.


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  • Posted by shot 8 - GA (My Page) on
    Wed, Apr 1, 09 at 23:38

You pray ane you're a lawyer? Thought that was against their schoolong.

shot


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Several times throughout the years I made major purchases from TyTy Nursery and always had a good result. One day I saw this forum as I was looking for the TyTy site, and I read it. My own experiences were so different from most posted that I thought it was in the public's best interest to hear of my own positive ones, and so I expressed them on three seperate occasions in writing in this very forum. I have no interest in TyTy and do not know any of the people connected with it, even remotely. As the next person who reads this thread may see, what I did in sharing the truth as I actually experienced it brought down upon me personally the type of comments you can read above this posting. What you cannot read is the other two positive reports I posted over the years and the resulting vituperative attacks because the forum censor removed them, although my personal comments were truthful, informative, detailed and inoffensive to any unbiased reader. Because I think it is a good thing for folks to have all the information, good and bad, I shared what I personally knew. It seems that this forum itself is slanted in its viewpoint to the extent that it is not credible. This is not a comment on TyTy one way or the other, because obviously it has been problematic for other people, no matter how much I personally have been pleased. For a forum to pose itself as a place one can share experiences as to "Is Ty Ty Nurseries legit?" and then censor or redact unbiased positive comment on the nursery itself is simply unfair, and for that reason I will have nothing further to do with it and this is my last entry. I am sure this will come as a relief to some folks who comment here,many of whom have never made a single purchase from TyTy but simply love to express their opinions. If history repeats itself and the censor strikes again, these comments will simply be erased as the past ones were. I believe some folks complained that I was upsetting them to the forum, and so the censor was sent on a mission. The truth is hard for some folks to take, and where it troubles the ones in power by disputing the official line, ad hominem attacks and censorship are soon to follow. So, All the Best to all of you people of good will. May your gardens bloom and your hearts be gentle.


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Earl - here's one for you. I note your skepticism of TyTy due to your positive experiences.

Stumbling around looking for references on Willis Orchards, which is uncomfortably close to TyTy (which warrants caution IMHO), I found the thread below - please read the 8th post down for feedback from a former employee of TyTy that speaks about the shady practices they shove down the throats of their employees.

Granted, this guy could be full of crap...but I mean ... what are the chances he would leave his email, name and everything else? I find it interesting to say the least.

Here is a link that might be useful: Thread with post from former employee


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I bought a 5 ft eureka persimmon from TyTy in 2005. It was a well formed tree but unfortunately it never took root. I called TyTy the following year and they sent a replacement at no cost to me. It wasn't as pretty as the first tree but it took root and after some pruning it produced a few fruit the second year. it is now 4 years old, about 9 ft tall and it produced over 50 fruit this year. I have no complaints with TyTy.


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I wish, like many, I had done a little more research. My dear husband called up TyTy and ordered a 6-7' Peter's Honey Fig...and he was told it should do fine in our area. It was promptly charged to our account. It would be shipped later since Spring was coming and they do not ship trees that are leafed. That Fall--no tree even though when called, they said it would be shipped soon. Middle of winter--still no tree. After several calls, we were told to wait for better weather in our area. After a year, and still no tree, we were told we never had an order. I waded through over a year's worth of charges to find TyTy, my husband searched for Emails over a year old...and only upon a very nasty phone call did our tree get shipped. The top was cut to fit the 5'x8" UPS shipping box (UPS charges extra for anything over 5'). So much for our 6-7 foot tree. The roots were cut badly for transporting. The poor thing struggled the next year because of the root damage, but we did managed to get it to grow. However, because of the weakened state, it did not winter over. Now, TyTy has a rider saying they will not guarantee anything out of zone, and they list Peter's Fig out of our zone--EVEN THOUGH the man said it should do well. Plus, they want us to pay for freight both ways???? for a fig they will top off and ship in a small box??? How will a 6-7 foot tree live with 8" of root. NEVER, ever order from TyTy.


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anyway i got this great idea for a vineyard or something kinda far fetched like that eventually i went to bonzai-ing an assortment of grape vines from them. i bought seedless reliance which in the picture looked like a rainbow of multicolored grapes on the vine cluster. when it finally grew grapes. it was for surely seeded concord. very sad man. by the time i realized that i prolly had the wrong type of wine grapes, ( i had bought cabernet s. and merlot at a very steep price) which i had grown indoors for six months and made hundreds of clones of what i thought was going to be my cabernet s. vineyard.... i threw almost a years worth of lies out yesterday. i am a very sad man. if any of you out there have a merlot or cabernet s. strain i would love you to send it to Mark 153 park st. jamestown ny 14701 upper apt. it would really make me a happy man to have a for sure a merlot or cab f. or s. i just feel like i've been so totally screwed over by ty ty nursery. and the saddest part is. because the plants all appeared to be grapes i also bought two types of cherry trees a pecan tree and an apple tree from them. I went to cancel my order yesterday after finally coming to terms that i was fooled into growing concord and not wine grapes, and their site is currently down. all i'm sayin is i hope my almond tree is really a hals hearty almond tree and not some heat loving georgia tree. cause it will def die up here in NY


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I wish I had read this postings before my purchase. They included roots in the sizing. But even with the roots counted, was still smaller than what I ordered for. The same male person answered my phone multiple times, bad experience with him and the company.


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If you paid for the item on a credit card, put the item(s) into dispute. Then take photos - many - and good ones: closeups, whole plant, and lay a yard stick or ruler next to the plant(s) for proportion. (With today's digital cameras, there is no excuse for only one photo or blurry photos. Get many good crisp ones.) Next, grab a print screen of exactly what you ordered before the site is changed so you have a record of what was listed and included in the description when you placed the order. All of that will arm you well for your credit card dispute.


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