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| Hiya all
I was wondering what Gesneriads would be winter hardy. I live in the Sacramento valley in a Zone 9. Which ones will take even colder temps? I have Sin. tubiflora and I saw a handful at the Yucca Do web-site. Is there any one out there experimenting with their hardiness? |
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- Posted by greenelbows1 z9--so LA (My Page) on Mon, Jun 20, 05 at 1:19
| Yucca Do has the largest commercial list I've seen--that is, with hardiness ratings--and there has been quite a bit of discussion about this on the gesneriphiles list. Lots of sinningias besides S. tubiflora, some Gesnerias that might be hardy for you tho' not for most of the country, Hemiboea henryi if I have its latest name right (no guarantees!), I think Aeschynanthus garettii, some Nematanthus--tho' we theoretically live in the same zone I'm familiar enough with California to know your climate is seriously different. If you can get over to San Francisco to meetings of the gesneriad society there you could get a lot more information. Jon will probably be along any minute to tell you more. |
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| Oh my ears are burning again. Yesterday was the gesneriad meeding at the park. We didn't get our slides for our formal program so we did an extended show and tell. I as asked to bring in as much as I could, and I took the request to heart and filled my station wagon with plants. I even brought in two impatiens. So, you would have felt right at home at our meeting. Most of the plants I brought in I grow outdoors all year too. But, my peninsula conditions are very different from Sacramento. So, I am not sure of what I have that would be hardy for you. Soem aeschynanthus like garrettii, also in mild years many others, such as gracilis, parasiticus etc. Nematanthus are all quite tolerant down to 32 and some take it down to the mid 20's. Probably australis is the hardiest--it is the southernmost in habitat. N. fornix (nervosus) is a high elevation species that may resent your heat but would be hardy. The common hybrids are fairly hardy too, as they are mainly combinations of somewhat hardy species like gregarius, fornix, and wettsteinii. Hemiboea henryi is now H. subcapitata--it is a hardy deciduous perennial. It and many of the Chinese gesneriads would be fairly to completely hardy. They like warm humid summers and cool dry winters--the rosulate chiritas, petrocosmeas, hemiboaea, and a few others. Also, the genus lysionotis, which is related to aeschynanthus but has flowers more like a streptocarpus. They are perennials for a moist shady spot and do very well in large pots. The best one is montanus, which flowers heavily in mid to late summer. Another, that has beautiful foliage is ikadae, native to a tiny island between Taiwan and the mainland. Streptocarpus like cooler condiditons than the valley, but take it down to about 30. A few columneas do well down to about the same temps--schiediana and erythrophaea, both from highland Mexico. On Gesneriphiles we recently has some posts from Vincent Parsons who reported on what survived in his unheated greenhouse in the Portland area. I was amazed at how much came through in his enclosed but cold structure where it got down into the 20's. Jon |
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| There are plenty of gesneriads that should be hardy in zone 9, including many (I would venture to say most) Sinningia species, but especially the taller ones with subterranean tubers (like S. tubiflora). Check out the link below for a discussion of hardy gesneriads. I currently have Titanotrichum oldhamii, Raphiocarpus petelotii, Sinningia sellovii 'Purple Rain', and an F2 seedling of the hybrid S. sellovii x S. tubiflora sprouting after a fairly cold zone 7 winter. Several Achimenes and Gloxinia species and hybrids are also supposed to be fairly hardy, but I haven't had any luck with either of these genera overwintering so far. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Cold hardiness of some gesneriads
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- Posted by DirtMonkey z8 OR (My Page) on Fri, Jul 8, 05 at 17:40
| This is Vincent in Portland, Oregon, sitting at my desk at work, while the convention is going on only a few blocks away :( I did get to go out with eveyone to the local gardens tours yesterday, which was nice. LOL Jon, that should be "partially enclosed"- I didn't even bother to close the door to the greenhouse all winter, because cats and raccoons had already torn out a big section of a wall, and the heater had been doused by a leak, so it wasn't even plugged in all winter. The plants had some shelter from the rains and snows, but that's about it. Temperatures dipped into the upper 20s ºF a few times, and went to below freezing many times over winter. Our weather is of course colder than Sac., anything that can take the cold of winter and heat of summer in a greenhouse here should be hardy there. Here are exerpts from what I posted on gesneriphiles recently about the survivors outdoors. There are a few more not listed there, like Aeschynanthus 'Red Elf', which started blooming in the open 'greenhouse' in early spring in still-cold weather. Also Gloxinia 'Odyssey', which is resprouting, and there are lots of healthy looking undamaged rhizomes in there. The Smithianthas that didn't dry to a crisp last winter, and them mold when I watered, are thinking about growing. They always start late anyway. Unfortunately most of the Smith's tags were dumped out by animals and only a few will ever be labeled with certainty again. It wouldn't surprise me to see Smithiantha survive, at least some species and hybrids that are descended from plants from higher parts of Mexico & Central America with cold nights. =============================================== "...we have very dry, low-humidity summers. Dry sun Growing now after being in the ground since last Sinningia tubiflora (Full sun and loved it) It's too early to tell about the S. schiffneri 'red Hands-down winner for hardiness here is the Sinn. [S. tubiflora also spread a lot, and sticking a spade under it was like lifting a pile of miniature potatoes! I even sliced a few in half that were further from the center than I expected] ======================================================= "As promised earlier, here's a list of most of what Everything marked "***" is being propagated for Species/cv. Result/Damage Chirita tamiana *** Chirita USBRG 98-083 *** Chirita gemella Chirita 'Kazu' Chirita sinensis Chirita 'Aiko' Petrocosmea flaccida Petrocosmea 'Momo' Primulina tabacum Hemiboea subcapitata Nematanthus (all) Codonanthe devosiana 'Paula' ***xCodonatanthus'Tambourine' ***xCodonatanthus 'Sunset' Aeschynanthus speciosus ***Aeschynanthus 'Rigel' ***Aeshcynanthus 'Big Apple' [add: Aeschynanthus 'Red Elf' ***Lysionotus serratus ***Lysionotus pauciflorus Sinningia (various minis) Sinningia 'Carnaval' Sinningia 'Apricot Boquet' Sinningia lineata Sinningia brasiliensis? x(?) Sinningia "black hill" Sinningia glazioviana ***Sinningia cardinalis x leucotricha Sinningia (cardinalis x leucotricha) x leopoldii Sinningia leucotricha Sinningia 'Georgia Sunset' x self F3 various colors. Sinningia speciosa (wild type from seed mix) S. tubiflora, S. sellovii S. schiffneri 'red leaf' S. ibitioca: S. calcaria: Scaly Rhizomes: There were of course many more gesneriads than that in On the bright side, most of the cacti (no surprise) Vincent |
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- Posted by Mairzy_Dotes zone 10 (My Page) on Thu, Sep 8, 05 at 10:01
| Wow...just dug up this thread. Interesting! Since it is time to start autumn clean up and think of what to bring in & what can handle staying out, I find it a good idea to refresh memory on this. You had mentioned that about "half" your hoyas didn't make it. Would you let me know which ones DID survive? I have mostly hoyas out under my tree now. However it doesn't usually freeze here, but I would be interested in knowing which ones could take it. Also, how cold did it get where you are talking about there? Thanks. Marcy |
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- Posted by dirtmonkey z8 OR (My Page) on Sun, Nov 4, 12 at 21:24
| I am digging this old thread up because I'm getting back to growing some more gesneriads after some years of only having a very few, and want to continue tracking hardiness. I can add that the S. [cardinalis x leucotricha] x leopoldii was in fact what I thought it was, and has survived quite a few years of winter freezing, but always under cover to keep it on the dry side. Marcy, if you're still around, I apologize for missing your post... I will try to think about what Hoyas made it, but sadly my memory has faded quite a lot from that time. I wish I had listed those somewhere! |
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