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Posted by bumble_bee 5b Montreal (My Page) on Thu, Dec 16, 04 at 17:26
| I bought a small episcia 'Blue Nile'. It looks fine but I'm wondering what would make the leaves more contrasted. I would like them to get darker. Does 'Blue Nile' need to be really close to the lights? I noticed with other episcias that depending on where they grow (windows or lights) the leaves look different. |
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RE: episcia 'Blue Nile'
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| I've read (although I haven't experimented, so I have no direct experience) that the foliage looks better when grown at lower light levels. If you want lots of bloom, then use higher light levels, although the foliage won't look as good. |
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I think this may happen because the plant is required to produce more chlorophyll to adjust to the low light levels. This is usually why shade plants have darker foliage. -renee |
RE: episcia 'Blue Nile'
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- Posted by Jon_D Northern Calif. (My Page) on
Fri, Dec 17, 04 at 15:45
| 'Blue Nile' is a lilacina--a hybrid of two natural forms of the species. Lilacinas need more humidity to flower but will grow in the open with some care. They are quite tropical so they can often be more afflicted by our winter homes. I have only a few lilacinas now, as I keep losing them (my own fault--they aren't hard to grow at all). but, right now my plants are thriving. I have some under domes and some in the open on my light stand. I would give your plant time to grow up and mature. Its foliage will change to a more high contrast in the foliage. The two lilacinas that I have now are more like "dark on dark"--'Selby' and 'Shaw Gardens'. I don't think I have 'Chocolate Velour' right now--hmmm that's odd, I used to have that one all over the place. Lilacinas tend to grow vine like, making lots of long stolons and stretchy long stems on crowns. I have revived mine by rerooting the tops under the domes. Actually, right now, I have been topping and restarting all my stretchy episcias, and getting them all back to small low crowns. They love being under my domes, which are 10" x 20" and fit on the standard 10'20 flats. I just bought three more domes as I expand my propagation on the light stand. I get these domes at a store in San Francisco called "Plant It Earth". They cost $6 each. The other day when I was in the store I discovered that the domes they carry have been improved greatly. They are now thicker clear plastic and arch up higher--over 8" above the flats in the middle. I haven't checked but I think this store sells by mail order and has a web site. If I knew where to buy a case of them wholesale, I would, and, then resell the extras as I am sure they would be much cheaper then. I am up to about a dozen of them so far. (4 fit on a four foot light garden shelf). They sell the 10/20 trays for about $1.50 each. I like the white trays but the store only had the black ones when I was there. All these dimensions are inside dimensions by the way--the trays and domes are actually a little larger. Off topic story: this store is really interesting. They do a good business, and have two or three locations now. They sell all kinds of high end indoor light growing set ups, costing hundreds if not thousands of dollars. I suspect their principal customers are not growing episcias and flowers but things of a more economical bent. The other day I saw that, for the first time, they had a fluorescent light stand set up, selling plants and the fixtures and tubes. But, whoa Nelly, ;), these weren't your garden variety fluorescents. The fixtures were some sort of high end deal--a four foot fixture that uses special high output tubes. The fixtures come in sizes that use 2,4,6,or 8 tubes each. The tubes cost about $20 each! and are 5/8" in diamter (a T-5 tube). The fixtures start at around $200 each but are about $500 or so for the ones that use 8 tubes. Oh well, if their customers buy them I am sure they will have enough light for their "herbs" or whatever. But I digress....... Blue Nile can be very pretty with its contrast of pale and dark green/brown. Regular light stand lighting should be fine, but don't be afraid to take a tip cutting to start new compact plants. Jon |
RE: episcia 'Blue Nile'
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| Hi, Jon: You are right on two counts: Plant It Earth has a web site and it is a most interesting place to visit! I have two E. Blue Nile. One is growing in a south window on a pebble tray and the other is under lights. The one under lights is doing better but I think it was a more robust plant to start. Regards, Linda |
Here is a link that might be useful: Plant It Earth
RE: episcia 'Blue Nile'
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| Holy moley-- very interesting, but out of my finiancial league! I did enjoy the link. Psssssst- wanna buy a dimebag of lilacina leaves? |
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RE: episcia 'Blue Nile'
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- Posted by Jon_D Northern Calif. (My Page) on
Sat, Dec 18, 04 at 13:48
| I went and looked at Plant It Earth. I only looked at this page though. But, they have a picture of the old style domes. Now they have these much better ones for the same price. If anyone orders, make sure they are sending you the new style. The difference is that they are much thicker plastic and they are curved on the top, going up to about 7". On top of a flat the total height is 9 1/2". That is just great for propagating plants under lights. They also sell a shorter dome that is like those sold in propagation kits. The domes and sphagnum moss are about the only products I buy there. I just love these high domes. They are great for growing high humidity loving gesneriads under lights. I have some plants that stay enclosed all the time and others that I am propagating or are recovering or are on vacation for the winter. Lately I have been taking cuttings of my episcias, trying to get them all back to my goal--a plant without much of a stem and a nice crown of healthy leaves. For compactness I hope to keep most of mine as single crown plants, removing and propagating stolons as soon as they grow large enough to cut off. Episcias that make stolons inside the domes will put out air roots from the stolons, which makes propagation very fast! I just cut and pot up in a two inch pot with potting mix and a week later they are rooted in and starting to grow. I took some tip cuttings on leggy episcias and they have rooted nicely in potting mix too. I like to take the crowns with just four leaves. Also, you can root them in pots that are about half full and then add more mix as the plants grow taller, removing the older sets of leaves. This will produce a nice sized plant in a two or three inch pot. I've also taken tip cuttings of kohlerias but am yet to take cuttings of K's in bud. Anyway, I shouldn't be posting now--I've got a society luncheon to attend in 45 minutes. Actually the San Francisco Gesneriad Society Holiday Lunch. We have a nice room at a neighborhood type restaurant in SF. I am taking Celine with me, bless her 93 (shhhh, don't tell) year old heart. Jon |
Here is a link that might be useful: The domes
RE: episcia 'Blue Nile'
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| Jon, those light set-ups sound wonderful. I'd love to have some myself but I haven't seen them available locally (I'm not about to pay shipping and/or customs on items that large and pricey!) In case you're wondering, I don't grow "herbs"; however, I know my orchids would absolutely love those lights, and might even bloom for a change. ;-) |
RE: episcia 'Blue Nile'
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| Thanks again for the link, Jon_D. I actually saw domes like that in a store last year (when I didn't need them). I'll have to go back and get some. |
RE: episcia 'Blue Nile'
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Here is a link that might be useful: Diamond Rings
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