I would also like to try some.We planted too late last year,they did OK.I would like to know if horse manure is the best fert, I keep hearing it's the one to use.I have angel wing gourd seeds to swap.If sucsessful I would be happy to "pay it forward" this fall.I have set aside two acres to gourds for this yr. I have most of the common ones,but every time I look there is somethig new.Any and all help/advice will be appreciated