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GC for full shade, wet, clay

Posted by kiosan 7b GA (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 26, 08 at 15:00

Hello folks!

I have this problem at the western side of the house (house faces south). It's full shade, with deciduous and evergreen trees - so minimal light even in winter. It's also fairly wet, as that's where much of our run-off goes. It receives light traffic as it is the only sloping (as opposed to steps) access to the backyard, and it's terrible soil - clay, clay, clay.

Grass will not grow there. We tried it two years running and could not keep it in place (combination environmental conditions and run-off situation).

This is a naturalized, wooded area, not a formal bed and no hardscape to act as a barrier. The ivies seem to love it (poison and English), but I plan to kill those as soon as I can find some sort of replacement. I planted corsican mint and autumn and christmas ferns a month or so ago, but have barely even begun to cover the area. I certainly haven't even touched the ivy covered-bits yet. And with the erosion problem, I can't touch it until I have something that's at least a moderate grower, preferably evergreen.

I've been all over the web looking for ideas, but am concerned that the few groundcovers I find which might suit the light & soil would be almost as invasive as the ivy. Can anyone offer any ideas?

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RE: GC for full shade, wet, clay

First thing I would do is have the soil tested to find out what the PH is. Since there are evergreens I'm guessing its probably acidic. You might need hi-acid loving plants.

RE: GC for full shade, wet, clay

How about moss? It can be sooo beautiful.

RE: GC for full shade, wet, clay

Well, in our flooded Iowa spring this year, the lamium was very happy and looked great. There's also that creeping jenny type of ground cover -- with a chartreuse variety -- can't recall the name right now. You might look into bog plants and aquatics.
Good luck

RE: GC for full shade, wet, clay

  • Posted by kimcoco Zone 5, Wisconsin (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 24, 08 at 2:46

If there isn't standing water in this area, just runoff, my suggestion would be pachysandra aka japanese spurge.

This is probably the third post I've responded to with the same answer - Pachysandra, japanese spurge, but I have to say it's a great groundcover where all else fails to do the job. How it will fare in your zone I cannot comment, but I believe it's hardy to zone 4 and possibly 3.

Pachysandra does great in shade, sun (websites will say otherwise, I have these in both areas - supplemental water in sun/dry areas), and is one of the very few groundcovers to thrive under evergreens.

I have clay soil here and pachy does very well for me.

It is also an excellent choice for erosion prevention - spreads by underground runners, NOT invasive by any stretch of the imagination but will continue to spread outward if not contained (pachy is easily removed and won't start "popping up" all over your yard like other invasives), so I usually recommend a plastic border to keep it confined.

Does great on embankments, loves acidic soil, evergreen for me all year, attractive groundcover. Passersby stop to ask what it is.

It's not a "stepable" groundcover, but you could consider flagstone / stepping stones. Once the pachy are established (and filled in completely), usually within 3 years, those stones won't go anywhere if you incorporate them within the pachy.

Pachy roots are moderately shallow, maybe 5-6 inches, an excellent choice to absorb excess water at the surface. Plant deeper than in the flats to promote more shoots.

They tolerate salt from our snowblower and do just as well for me in full sun and shade. We have a slope at the front of our home where we couldn't get grass to grow (a huge maple towers over), and installed a retaining wall and planted pachy at the base...this is the second year and by next year it will have filled in completely. We planted maybe 6-8" apart.

The ONLY place I could not get these to grow was directly at the base of the maple tree (they grow but don't spread)- the roots of the tree sit at the surface and there's just not enough topsoil there for the pachy to spread runners.

Other groundcovers will be hard to compete with this one - pachy usually wins. The underground runners will choke out anything growing up within it - I used this to rid myself of bishops weed - within 3 years it was completely choked out. Trees and shrubs are fine, but I wouldn't recommend planting with other perennials unless you have them contained - you could incorporate flagstone as a border around other perennials and that would suffice.

Good luck

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