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Confused on hardy zone...

Posted by erinf83 6 (My Page) on
Thu, May 23, 13 at 13:07

So I'm in the Naagara region (Welland), wedged in between the great lakes. I know we have a warmer zone than all other areas around us.

I really REALLY want a LIttle Gem Magnolia which I've read is 5-9, 6-9, 7-10...so real clear information on that...regardless...I'm obviously having a hard time locating one in my area.

I've been contemplating order through mail order but would hate for it to die, despite any attempts to baby it through the winter.

Well...I've wondered, how cold does it get here exactly?! I've done a weather history search for Welland and to my surprise...the coldest its been in the last 3 years is only -12C (10F) which from my understanding means zone 8a/7b...and this was only a few days over the last few years...average tempreature is about -4C (24F)

Am I in a weird microclimate or is global warming really catching up to us?

I don't want to go out and buy a palm tree and a ton of tropical plants but I'm really drawn to a lot of zone 7 plants/trees/shrubs (Crape Myrtle, Heavenly Bamboo, to name a few)....

comments, opinions and advice is welcome!


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RE: Confused on hardy zone...

"Am I in a weird microclimate or is global warming really catching up to us? "

The former, the earth actually has been cooling since 1998. According to NASA satellite data, It's political, not scientific. Currently co2 levels are the highest right now in my whole lifetime. Did we have a super warm spring?
Go by the plant rating, if your crape myrtle is facing temps beyond it's rated zone, string Christmas lights in it. They will keep it warm. I'm in zone 6A and many bamboo can thrive here. I have one planted outside. Also some Crape Myrtle are rated to zone 6.

Here is a link that might be useful: Crape myrtle in zone 6


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RE: Confused on hardy zone...

Really shouldn't be difficult to find the Southern Magnolia at a specialty nursery in the Niagara region. Try Rice Road Greenhouses.

Don't bother with Little Gem, you want the hardiest possible M. grandiflora (Edith Bogue or Brackens Brown Beauty). It's close enough to the edge of their climate tolerance that none are going to get terribly big.

You'll want to plant it in a protected spot, sheltered from wind and (ideally) protected from afternoon winter sun (ie. northeast side of a building).

Welland may very well suit evergreen magnolias if you only looked a temperature tolerance. Unfortunately that is only one factor for broadleaf evergreens. Duration of sustained below freezing temperatures and frozen soil are much bigger factors as they impact the plant's ability to re-hydrate periodically during the winter. Welland is not nearly as friendly on that account as say, southern Ohio.


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