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Using Ball/Kerr jars with one-piece button-top lids

Posted by kweepeer CA (My Page) on
Wed, May 19, 10 at 1:12

Hi all,

First posting, so apologies for any missed protocol...

I'd really like to can with single-piece lids for my jam and it seems the consensus here is that that's fine, with BWB canning. But I'm wondering if I can use the Kerr and Ball jars I already have -- 4 oz and 8 oz -- with these button-top continuous thread lids at Fillmore Container.

http://www.fillmorecontainer.com/Lids/G70-CT-Gold-Retort-Plastisol.htm

Also, if anyone knows a good source for ~ 6 oz canning jars that would work with these CT lids, I'd really appreciate it. I give away a lot of jam and 4 oz seems skimping but 8 oz is a lot :)

Thanks!


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RE: Using Ball/Kerr jars with one-piece button-top lids

Hi, kweeper, welcome to the forum!

I am not familiar with this product, but I had a look at the lid you linked to. It says they're designed for water-bath canning, which to me implies standard canning jars; it also says it's size G70, and some of the jars on the site, like the one I've linked to below, say they have standard mason jar openings and also say they take size G70, so it sure looks to me like you're good.

http://www.fillmorecontainer.com/Jars/16-oz-Economy-Jar-CT.htm

I bought a bunch of one-piece lids from Kitchen Krafts a few years ago to make some slightly fancier-looking jams, etc. for my friend's wedding favours, and they worked great. They didn't have a "button" but you could tell when it sealed as the whole lid curved in a bit, then popped up, presumably the same idea.

http://www.kitchenkrafts.com/product.asp?pn=PG1991

I see KK now also is listing a button lid that looks exactly like the ones in your link, and THEY say it fits regular mason jars.

http://www.kitchenkrafts.com/product.asp?pn=PG1999

Sure seems like a good bet to me. Let us know how they work out, eh?

Afraid I can't help with the six-ounce jars. I suggest giving two different 4-oz ones. ;-) (Any excuse to do more canning!)

Enjoy,

Zabby


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RE: Using Ball/Kerr jars with one-piece button-top lids

I've used the one-piece lids with no problems. In my case the best bulk price for those lids was from a honey supplier. Don't forget those companies for a broad selection of containers and caps.

The difficulty with most of the 6-oz. or thereabouts jars (might be a near equivalent in metric) is that they're designed for lug lids and you don't want those. You might check into these "olive canning jars" which are available in 6-oz. and are a nice straight-sided shape. They appear to fit a standard one-piece cap (and probably two-piece lids and rings) but you'd need to verify with the supplier. I haven't looked into this particular jar seriously.

Carol

Here is a link that might be useful: SKS Olive Canning Jars


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RE: Using Ball/Kerr jars with one-piece button-top lids

I've used lug lids in a boiling water bath and it went fine. On most of them you can tell whether the center is down or not. I know it isn't recommended but you could be wild and crazy and try it. What's the worst that could happen if a jar of jam doesn't seal? Those olive jars do look interesting.


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RE: Using Ball/Kerr jars with one-piece button-top lids

Hi Melly, good to see you. I don't have a problem with the lug lids either but was just thinking the OP wanted a jar that would accomodate either one-piece or two-piece lids for optimal versatility.

I do think those jars are appealing (though heaven knows, the last thing I need is more jars!)

Carol


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RE: Using Ball/Kerr jars with one-piece button-top lids

Hi everyone,

Thanks so much for the links and advice. Glad to hear there's a CT solution for Mason jars!

I also found 6 oz jars at California Glass Co.

http://www.calglass.com/catalog/product?ProductId=54

I'm going to call and see if those can be used with the standard G70 CT lids and will report back... California Glass has lids that *look* the same as those at Fillmore.

http://www.calglass.com/catalog/closures/metal/ct/ct

Not sure about customer service for home canners as the one time I called the rep said most home canners use lug lids.

I do know California Glass has a $500 minimum purchase, which amounts to a lot of jam and chutney, even for the crazy productive trees in my yard.


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RE: Using Ball/Kerr jars with one-piece button-top lids

I guess wife and I are strange but we like our canned gifts to look homemade, not like fancy store bought stuff. We want it to be clear that WE made it not some factory.

And nothing looks as homemade or full of care and love than a good old mason jar filled with a bright colored jam, jelly, relish or such with a 2 piece lid and maybe a bow or a circle of gingham fabric on it.

Dave


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I would like to use my bormioli Rocco Quattrostagioni jars with two piece lids. Does anybody know if they're compatible?


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RE: Using Ball/Kerr jars with one-piece button-top lids

Hi, not sure about these for home canning but I have fallen in love with this site for other projects. No minimum orders on most items, and really reasonable prices! Anyone know if you can use these jars for home canning projects?
Thanks!
Heather

Here is a link that might be useful: www.specialtybottle.com


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RE: Using Ball/Kerr jars with one-piece button-top lids

Yes, though I wouldn't use those jars for anything but high-acid BWB product (not pressure canner). They work fine for one-time use (like wedding favor jams) but unless you want to order the lug lids, they can't be re-used. For that reason, for most uses I prefer jars with a Ball/Kerr compatible threaded top.

SKS is a little clearer about which bottles and jars are suitable for food processing.

Carol

Here is a link that might be useful: SKS Food Containers


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