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| Possibly raw "meat", possibly cooked "meat." I don't want to get too graphic here but a dear friend's daughter just had a child. The daughter is creating a tincture from a piece of the afterbirth soaked in vodka. It will eventually be used as a special medicinal tincture for the child. I know that fruits are often preserved in drinking alcohol, but I've never heard of a protein being preserved like that. Other than scientific specimens, and I believe they're not swimming in vodka. I just wondered if this kind of preservation is an acceptable practice. Or if there are any possible concerns. |
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| If the friend is close, why not talk to him/her and the daughter, ask her if she has spoken with her physician about her plans, and ask for information or sites/websites. |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Sun, May 26, 13 at 21:43
| OK, well, we've moved into a discussion area I never imagined on this forum. The issues are similar as for specimens and that is uncooked the fluids will leach into the alcohol and dilute the solution. In that regard there are risks if it's a large enough portion. Also, without the kind of fixative commonly used in scientific preservation, over time there may be degradation of quality, thus defeating the purpose of the process. After the Battle of Trafalgar Lord Nelson's remains were shipped home in a barrel of brandy, but camphor and myrrh were added, so I'm not sure how much of the preservative effect can be attributed to the brandy as opposed to other additions. And, of course, he was already dead and not subject to any health considerations. I'm personally uncomfortable with administering anything alcohol-based to a child. I would think steaming or drying and then whirring into a smoothie would work just as well. However, I'm speaking purely hypothetically. Carol |
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| This practice is apparently one of those new wave homeopathic things one can find advocated on some of the homeopathic medicine websites - Google pulls up lots of info on it. Is it acceptable? For some of those who practice homeopathic medicine it is. Otherwise, no. Are there concerns? Yes,many, especially for the child. But as far as I can determine from all the reading I did the advocates of the practice don't worry about them. They consider the practice to be either totally safe or that the benefits outweigh the risks. Dave |
Here is a link that might be useful: IPEN - Placenta Tincture
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| I didn't intend to gross out anyone, but was curious about supposedly preserving a protein in alcohol. I expressed my concern to my friend just because I don't think it's a safe preservation method. But that's about as far as I can go. Dave, I was amazed when I tried to get some info online. Page after page of how-to posts and testimonials. Thank you for your responses. |
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| OH EM GOSH. Y'all should see my face right now. Pictures are louder than words and I have no words. LOL |
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| Not grossed out at all, but apart from the idea being bizarre why would anyone think it a good idea to give vodka to a baby? The child should be living on milk only, preferably its Mothers, the perfect immunological and nutritional convenience food. |
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| "It is said that placenta tincture is used for emotional, mental and psychological instability" Wait, in this context does "used for" really mean used to CREATE, or used to treat? The former seems more likely to me! I'm all for keeping an open mind, but my gut tells me this is as helpful for an infants "emotional instability" (!!) as snake oil. But kids endure more harmful parental fads and still turn out okay! |
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- Posted by gardengalrn 5KS (My Page) on Fri, Jun 7, 13 at 23:42
| I know there are some new homeopathic fads out there as Dave has said and I'm admittedly ignorant about the science (if any) involved. I know some herbal remedies have been used for years and I do think they have their place. However, the nurse and mother in me does not think this is a good idea. I'm sure the intent is not to give any significant amount to the baby, probably a drop or two mixed into another medium. Still, I would never give a baby alcohol much less vodka that has had a piece of placenta soaked in it. Other than the gross factor that many (not all) of us probably feel, I can't see how that would be safe. I am no expert food preserver but to me it is just common sense that the placenta would break down and release its own liquid along with other unsavory things and dilute the alcohol. I would never dare to put even one drop of something like this any where near a baby's mouth. Heck, I wouldn't dare even with fruit according to established practices. Maybe I'm wrong, that is just my personal opinion. I also agree with an above poster that some children have worse things to overcome and at least this mother cares enough to do some things for her baby within her belief system. I just hope she's not misguided in a safety issue. |
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