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NCHFP Spaghetti Sauce without Meat

Posted by scunningham 6 (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 11, 12 at 11:42

When adding the oregano and parsley do they mean fresh or dried. I made this before and can't remeber :(

Thanks you, Scott


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Dried herbs.


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Thank you Linda, I have some fresh herbs growing. I will get them in the dehydrator this weekend.


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Question for you all. Am I correct that this is a modified version of the Ball Blue Book "Seasoned Tomato Sauce"? I'm wondering if it's approximately the same recipe before trying. I'm in the process of trying many approved recipes in search of the best one for my family's taste. Right now I'm simmering for supper a canned sauce I made weeks ago from the Better Homes and Gardens canning book. It's kinda......herby.... or something. Not so sure about it, flavor wise. I've also made the Ball Blue Book sauce, which only cooks for 10 minutes before processing. It's a bit watery, but haven't tasted it yet as a meal. I have at least 60 pounds of tomatoes blanched and cut up in the freezer waiting for me to thaw out and can into spaghetti sauce. I'm glad I'm sampling the various sauces before using all the tomatoes into one thing.


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Am I correct that this is a modified version of the Ball Blue Book "Seasoned Tomato Sauce"?

No, Ball recipes are based on NCHFP research and development, not the other way around. :) But in this case they are 2 quite different recipes with different ingredients.

BBB Seasoned Tomato Sauce (p. 23 current edition) contains 1/2 again as many tomatoes, 6x as many onions, 2x as much garlic, no mushrooms or celery or green peppers, and different spices so the flavors would be quite different.

But I also note that the BBB recipe calls for cooking much longer than you indicated ("10 mins. before processing"?). The Seasoned Tomato Sauce recipes calls for simmering for 20 min. before milling and then cooking until reduced by 1/2 and that will usually take several hours.

Dave


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Ok, wow. Clearly I have the wrong recipe that i thought was for this! Lol! Online, many times the Ncfhg website and others often say "this is a similiar version of BBB such n such".. Ive clearly got one mixed with the other. The recipe I was referring to was the "Italian Tomato Sauce" on Page 74 of the BBB that I have, listed under special diet. "Cover and cook 10 minutes". There is a recipe out there somewhere that says it is "a modified version" of this one. Sorry, I had it mixed up. :-)


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I mean no disrespect to which organization is the "leader of the pact"....I'm still learning what's what and whose what. :-)


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No problem. I'm sure they don't take offense. :)

However please note that any time you see "this is a similiar version of BBB such n such" it is a personally modified, untested and potentially unsafe recipe.

You will never see that on the NCHFP site recipes but many of the other questionable or downright unreliable canning website often say that in an attempt to legitimate their recipes.

"Italian Tomato Sauce" on Page 74 of the BBB

Note that this is still substantially different from the NCHFP Spaghetti Sauce without Meat recipe. Different proportions of vegetables and no mushrooms, oil or brown sugar and different spices. Not sure why it would be classed as a special diet recipe as it isn't.

Part of the confusion might come from using the labels "spaghetti sauce" and "tomato sauce" interchangeably. They aren't the same thing although some people seem to use them as such. There are many tomato sauce canning recipes available but there are relatively few spaghetti sauce recipes because the ingredients are so much more complex. In canning they are very different things.

There is a recipe out there somewhere that says it is "a modified version" of this one.

I'm sure there is but it should be used with great care or best ignored. There are many to-be-avoided canning websites that are often discussed here which is why we so often recommend sticking with only tested and approved sites until one has enough training or experience to recognize the difference.

Hope this helps.

Dave


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Thanks so much Dave for all the clarifications. God bless you for helping us all here as you do. Not everyone would give so much of their time to do so. I can't tell you how appreciative I am! I was also curious as to why that sauce was in the Special Diet category. I'm glad I tried it, though, it seems to be the favored one here at my home. Simple, and can be modified easy when serving. I'm not really enjoying many of the other "spaghetti sauce" recipes I'm coming onto, including Mrs. Wages. Something isn't quite right, too strong or bitter, or something "off" flavor wise. A simple sauce, flavored slightly, but not a plain juice, is probably what I'm after. Don't want to waste all those tomatoes!


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RE: NCHFP Spaghetti Sauce without Meat

Thanks so much Dave for all the clarifications. God bless you for helping us all here as you do. Not everyone would give so much of their time to do so. I can't tell you how appreciative I am! I was also curious as to why that sauce was in the Special Diet category. I'm glad I tried it, though, it seems to be the favored one here at my home. Simple, and can be modified easy when serving. I'm not really enjoying many of the other "spaghetti sauce" recipes I'm coming onto, including Mrs. Wages. Something isn't quite right, too strong or bitter, or something "off" flavor wise. A simple sauce, flavored slightly, but not a plain juice, is probably what I'm after. Don't want to waste all those tomatoes!


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