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| I think I have lucked into some tomatoes and would like to make Annie's Salsa as it sounds so good :)
I have a jar of the moist minced garlic (refrigerated). It states to use a 1/2 teaspoon for every clove of garlic. Would this work and still be safe?? Thanks :) Lesa |
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| Yes, you'll be fine! I use it all the time as a sub in canning (BIG timesaver.......I HATE peeling garlic). You are SO gonna love this salsa! Nice score on the tomatoes!! Deanna |
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| Please-can someone direct me to a recipe for Annie's salsa? I am new in this forum, but am really enjoying it. |
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| Here ya go! And welcome to the forum!! Deanna ANNIE’S SALSA |
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| I finally got enough tomatoes from the garden to make the Annie's Salsa -- Oh my -- Wow!!!! It is so good I just can't Thank you enough Annie for sharing the recipe. |
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- Posted by hfisch0919 (My Page) on Fri, Aug 10, 07 at 14:03
| I have now canned Annie's salsa twice and made 7 pints the first time and 8 this time. (my first time canning anything!) It is great! I had some friends over and they finished off two jars, I realized then I needed to can more if I was going to have any over the winter! It is fabulous. I used a BWB (my grandmothers) and it worked out just fine! I used 1/3 cup cider vinegar and 2/3 cup lime juice. Annie, thanks for sharing! I was looking for a good recipe and stumbled upon yours here! I am forever thankful (and so is my family)! |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Sat, Aug 11, 07 at 10:22
| Aprox how many lbs of tomatoes will I have to buy for this recipe? Do I make the tomato sauce or buy it? Any fav brands? I should have enough Biker Billy jalapeños red ripe next week to use. This variety can have very decent heat & sweet. The green peppers I assume are bells? What kind of onions work best? The first time I try a recipe I try to do as close to the original as possible. Then I have something to compare to when I screw it up later by subbing ingredients. Has anyone made it both ways? (BWB & pressure processing) How much difference did the different amts of vinegar make taste-wise? I've been wanting to make this for a long time! jt |
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| Can this be processed in quart jars? What pressure and time? Thanks! |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Sat, Aug 11, 07 at 15:57
| Annie's going to be out of town for a while and I doubt she'll be online but I hope I can answer some of your questions. dinkans, to answer your question first, no tested processing times have been developed for quarts of salsa, either Annie's or any other salsa recipe I know of. Pints are the limit. This has come up before on this Forum as other members have wanted to know about canning in quarts. Sorry we can't give you a different response. Chef2Chef says 2 1/2 pounds of tomatoes yields 3 cups chopped and drained. Green peppers are Bells. I've only used Walla Walla sweet onions in salsa (correction - once I used red onion); it's whatever you have. I pressure can mine so can't speak to the increased vinegar though I know some Forum members prefer it that way. Carol |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Thu, Aug 16, 07 at 12:48
| Bought all the ingredients this morning. Hunt's tomato paste comes in 12 oz cans and their sauce in 15 oz cans so that is what I will use. Vidalia onions and 1 red onion. Cider vinegar, lemon and lime juice in those little squeeze containers that look kinda like them. Had thought would have to hunt for cilantro. Nope... WallyWorld had big bunches for less than a buck. Not looking forward to peeling 16 rather smallish tomatoes. Boiling water for 30 seconds and then ice water for 5 min, right? I never peel tomatoes for anything else as the skin always floats to top in stews etc if I quarter them. Another 100° afternoon (I do all cooking outside) so might wait until morning. Just how many Annie's Salsa threads are there anyways? jt |
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| >> Not looking forward to peeling 16 rather smallish tomatoes. Boiling water for 30 seconds and then ice water for 5 min, right? I never peel tomatoes for anything else as the skin always floats to top in stews etc if I quarter them. Back to the minced garlic for a moment --- jt, I use ordinary cooking onions, and I ALWAYS substitute sweet green or yellow bell pepper with sweet red in any recipe. Life is too short to eat unripe bell peppers. Since I have a lot of tomatoes and usually have home-canned sauce in the pantry, that's what I use, but store-bought works fine, and I use bought tomato paste (I've investigated making it myself and decided it's more trouble than it's worth). There are always several Annie's salsa threads around tomato harvest time, and rightly so! There are a lot of salsa recipes out there, but this is the only one I've come across that is safe for BWB and hits a good combination of tomato-yness and other ingredients, texture, and tang. I think because tomatoes are borderline for acidity, and a good salsa calls for a good quanitity of low-acid ingredients too, it's a challenge to get one that does this. Annie was up for the challenge! Happy salsa-making. Zabby |
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| John, If you haven't already peeled your 'maters, you don't even have to if you don't want to. I never do. Doesn't bother me a bit! It's preference only, it won't affect the processing of the recipe. So...........are ya done yet? :+) Deanna |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Fri, Aug 17, 07 at 14:57
| Hi all! I've been the last 3 hours making Annie's Salsa. I peeled the tomatoes and was a piece of cake! Just like Zabby said. Ended up with only 7 cups drained so will add some in a can that I bought in case of emergency. Just finished chopping the fresh cilantro and am on the cumin. Do I add cumin seeds or grind them? Going with seeds until hear different. I did make some hot pepper and sweet pepper subs although am using 3 ripe jalapenos. Combo red onion and Vidalia. Added 2 ripe Bhut Jolokia pods so this should turn out HOT! I think am going to BWB in 1/2 pints. Will for sure be doing the extra cider vinegar, lime & lemon juice even if pressure process. No sugar. jt |
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- Posted by petrowizard z5a NE IL (My Page) on Fri, Aug 17, 07 at 15:40
| jt, Varieties of things are pretty much as you please, sweet onion vs. yellow onion vs. red etc.... I generally use poblanos instead of bells, but last year I used Melrose peppers (sweet italian frying pepper) instead of bells. That was excellent. The cumin is supposed to be ground, but I don't think that matters, it's to taste. I generally double the cumin anyway, but skip the cilantro (personal preference). Another thing I do is do all the chopping etc..., mix together and cook, then I put it into the fridge over night to chill and taste it cold before I add the sugar, and paste. That way I can taste it the way it'll be served, and check for taste and texture. I then add whatever I think it needs, bring to a boil and cook for the 10 minutes and then do the processing. The extra cooking tends to thicken it a bit more. Another variation that I am doing a lot of is to substitute a quart of peaches for a quart of tomatoes. When doing the peach version, I leave out the sauce, paste and sugar (generally, this year's tomatoes are not as sweet as usual so it gets maybe a tablespoon of brown sugar). Annie has done both the pressure canned and water bathed version. She says the 1/3 cup of vinegar in the pressure variety is necessary to get the right taste, but not necessary for safety. She does notice the extra vinegar in the water bath version and prefers the pressure canned recipe. I have not done the pressure canned variety, but I use only cider vinegar, and even the full cup is not overpowering, so I am happy to water bath. Once you get the salsa "rules" down, Annie's recipe is very versatile, and pretty much "no fail." No matter how you do it, you'll like it. Petro |
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| I agree this recipe is "flexible" as long as you get the basics to keep it safe! I usually prep the night before (snack on some for dinner) and taste, adjust and process the next day. Waaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh........I NEED TOMATOES!!!! I'm rationing the last pint or so of last years batch(es)...... Deanna (living vicariously through other salsa making adventures...) |
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| Petrowizard, I am SO HAPPY to see you here!!! It still astounds me, that salsa recipe seems to have taken on a life of its own, somehow. I still like the version with the 1/3 cup of vinegar, pressure canned. Still, if you want to water bath, the 1 cup of vinegar isn't bad either. What the heck, it's all good. Oh, and I taste a lot, so I only get 6 pints. Um...I mean ASHLEY tastes a lot, so I only get 6 pints. Yeah, that's it. (grin) And we/she eats some of it before we even cook it at all, it's yummy! Petrowizard, have I mentioned that I'm glad to see you back? LOL I am.... Carol, I'm officially "back in town", but have not been released from federal subpoena, so I might be back "out of town" next week. Who knows? Annie Annie |
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| Who are you gonna blame stuff on when Ashley moves out? Huh, Annie? OH! I get it!!! Elery is gonna be your new scapegoat!!??!?!? DARFC...................................... deanna |
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| I'm glad to see you too, Petro! And good that Annie's back from --- what did you say, federal prison? Oh, dear, wonder what she's done now... I think jt is goin' with all the vinegars because he likes things tangy --- and HOT! Deanna, my toms are starting to come in, but it was slim pickings on the peppers. I've got some nice hot peppers ripe (no Bhut Jolokia for this wimpy chick, but some lovely Hot Portugals, some Anaheims, some undersized (because pot for plant too small) Jalapenos, but I don't grow sweet bells myself, and the THREE farm stands I visited only had a few pretty sad specimens of slightly red shepherd or of chocolate between them. Still early in the season for ripe red bells here. And I SO prefer the ripe ones to green. I had to get a hothouse one for backup. Got everything else lovely and fresh, though --- looking forward to making my first batch of the season. Annie, it really has taken on a life of its own, hasn't it? As someone pointed out recently, it pops up on the major recipe sites (usually uncredited, alas). You have made a truly useful contribution to the world --- not many of us can say that!!!!! Zabby |
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- Posted by petrowizard z5a NE IL (My Page) on Sat, Aug 18, 07 at 23:38
| Gee, it's nice to be remembered! I don't post much anymore, but I'm usually lurking, especially this time of year when gardens start to pop and things get interesting. Unfortunately, I don't have an Elery or impending nuptials to excuse my lack of posts, just busy gardening. As a matter of fact, I just finished batch #3 and #4 of Annie's Peach Twist Salsa (pretty cool name huh?) this afternoon. I'm now up to 23 pints this year, and I haven't done any regular yet. My brother got into the taster left over from the first two batches and pronounced it stellar. I don't think it's surprising that Annie's recipe is now immortalized. That's what happens with a quality product. As for lack of credit, well how many people know who invented the zipper? At least we can say we knew Annie way back when before she became famous. Petro |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Sun, Aug 19, 07 at 11:39
| I'm impressed! Made 11 jelly jars (12 oz ea) of it yesterday. Jals and habs for the heat and Spanish Spice for the bells. SS has taken the place of all bells, Cubanelle and Gypsy peppers in my garden. The last 5 jars I kicked up a notch with additional hot peppers. Pretty much ruined the chances of a very hot salsa by processing at 15# for 25 min. Still resulted in a slow to build burn that was quite tolerable for even a moderate like me. The 6 tbs cider vinegar, 4 tbs lemon juice, 4 tbs lime juice and 2 tbs key lime juice was almost right. A little more acidity would have been OK. I did not add the sugar. Texture was better than had hoped for. I was worried abt the cilantro because in taste test before processing seemed a bit strong. Turned out OK. Next time a higher ratio of lemon juice and will BWB. Thanks, Annie!!!! jt |
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| jt, Ah, I THOUGHT that if anything you would want MORE vinegar. Tell me about Spanish Spice peppers and why they have won your heart; are they v. easy to grow? how long is the season? I have yet to find a bell pepper that yields well enough in my conditions to be worth my while, though Gypsy came close. Also, that's interesting about the pressure-canning taking down the heat. (Remember, you can always add a little hot sauce, or some finely chopped hot peppers of your choice, upon serving if you like...) I have been told that the heat of something made with hot pepper --- or at least hot pepper SAUCE --- often INcreases upon cooking, but I don't have any personal experience to support that. Is it an old wives' tale, in your opinion? Yes, the texture is a nice suprise, isn't it? Not quite comparable to a fresh salsa (I do love a wee bit of crunch and an uncooked tomato), but better than any other home-canned salsa I've tried, and the compromise is well worth it in order to have it on hand, just a jar-lid-twist away at all times! Will be interested to hear how you find the BWB version (which is what I do) compares with the pressure-canned, especially texture-wise and heat-wise. Zabby |
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| Also, that's interesting about the pressure-canning taking down the heat. (Remember, you can always add a little hot sauce, or some finely chopped hot peppers of your choice, upon serving if you like...) I have been told that the heat of something made with hot pepper --- or at least hot pepper SAUCE --- often INcreases upon cooking, but I don't have any personal experience to support that. Is it an old wives' tale, in your opinion? *** I have found that too, the more time I spend cooking it the more heat I lose. Not owning a pressure canner, I do the boiling water bath. I have been canning salsa for years and have a recipe for peach salsa that draws rave reviews. Both of mine come from the Bernardin Book of Home Canning and Preserving, a Canadian book. But I will certainly check out Annie's. |
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| triple_b, Thanks for sharing your experience of the heat loss. I am tempted to try some experiments now. Bernardin and the (only, now) U.S. canning-jar company, Ball/Kerr, are now both owned by the same company, and there is a great deal --- and more and more as time goes by --- of the same stuff in the Bernardin book and the Ball Blue Book. But each does have some stuff not found in the other; I like having both! Welcome to the forum! Zabby |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Mon, Aug 20, 07 at 1:58
| Several of us who are stateside also have the Bernardin book and the peach salsa has been posted in the past. The new Ball Complete Book . . . is a compilation of Ball, Bernardin and Kerr recipes. There isn't much that's been left out. Carol |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Mon, Aug 20, 07 at 9:21
| Zabby, Spanish Spice pepper isn't as productive for me as Cubanelle or Gypsy, but has a flavor that I find just right whether green or ripe. It does better for my mom in West Central Minnesota. It's a hybrid and the only pepper that I will pick and use when green. Great raw in salads or cooked. Capsaicin (the heat in hot peppers) gasses off somewhere around 150°. I have a friend who suffered a chemical burn from the fumes while making a hot sauce out of a very hot variety called Trinidad Scorpion. Anyways the longer capsaicin is heated the less heat will be left in a sauce. Side note.. I dehydrated one of the jars of salsa for powder and the cilantro completely took over the flavor. Going to have to learn more abt using it. Threw it out. jt |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Mon, Aug 20, 07 at 18:18
| Even washing may not be sufficient. I learned that searing lesson when I removed my contacts. It's gloves for me. Carol |
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| Gloves for me too........at least on one hand. Usually, I hold the knife in my right and glove the left. I've got a bad habit of rubbing my eyes........ Lesson learned. Deanna |
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- Posted by led_zep_rules 5 WI (My Page) on Mon, Aug 20, 07 at 18:36
| For John who said he was going to can salsa in half pints - why ever for? Salsa is so good, your half pint will be gone in 9 chips! I haven't actually tried Annie's since I wouldn't put in sugar or buy paste to make salsa, but we follow an approximately similar recipe, roasting the vegies and fruit first. We only do it in quarts now. Hadn't heard before that it wasn't tested or approved, guess I am always doing things that aren't okay. I have so many quart jars, I am not going to use pint jars on salsa. I need them for jam. Marcia |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Mon, Aug 20, 07 at 19:33
| Marcia, I agree! Half pints are too small & just finished batch of 6 pints that I BWBd. 6 Biker Billy jalapeños, 3 Chocolate Habs and 2 tsp CaJohn's Frostbite hot sauce (capsaicin aquaresin) for heat. Only 1/8 cup chopped cilantro this time and hope not too much. 1/2 cup ea apple cider vinegar and RealLemon for acidity. You are dead on abt roasting. Nothing like it to bring out flavor. Love your screen name/userid. Just Netflixed their 2 disc DVD. jt |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Mon, Aug 20, 07 at 20:36
| Just a reminder that sugar and paste are totally optional in Annie's recipe. The salsa is safe without those additions and didn't include them in its original incarnation. Carol |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Tue, Aug 21, 07 at 11:57
| Guess that I'm just not a cilantro person. Used a scant 1/8 very loosely packed cup for 7 pints and at taste test before packing the jars I thought was too much again. And what can you do after you have boiled it for 10 min? Salsa does seem to need that sort of flavor though. What to substitute? I'm going to dehydrate the remainder of the cilantro and maybe it will be easier to control that way. I still like the results, just not as 'perfect' as I want.
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| John, Maybe try some cumin instead of cilantro. I am kind of in the same boat.....not a huge cilantro fan, but salsa needs "something". I have not tried cumin, I just know it makes other dishes "Mexican" flavored to me. Just a thought. Deanna |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Tue, Aug 21, 07 at 18:24
| Deanna, I used 2 tsp cumin seeds in all my trials. Should they have been roasted or otherwise cooked first? I might be thinking abt another seed. Mexican Oregano might help. I've grown it for maybe 6-7 years and is another herb that I like only a little of per dish and don't use all that often, but is very popular in Tex/Mex. My original plant is a sturdy 4' bush and I need to dry some of the leaves soon. It's difficult to grow from seed and I usually take cuttings to share with other growers. And I would like to come up with a novel label design for "Annie's Salsa". Google Imaged 'Annie' and Annie turned up naked all too often. LOL! I was thinking more of a "Grannie". A jar from my last batch of her salsa is going to be a major part of my only meal of the day again tonight. And a burrito yet to be named. Hungry like the wolf here. jt |
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| Marcia, I'm gonna keep doing some half-pints of that salsa alright, because there are only two of us, with irregular schedules --- often on the road for craft shows, sometimes eating out a lot (then sometimes hardly at all for months) --- and I find if we open a jar and don't finish it right away sometimes it sits in the fridge while we're gone and I CAN'T STAND to think of that happening to any salsa! I can a lot of pints, too, and since I'm expecting to serve a lot of this stuff at the barbecue the night before my wedding, I might do some in crowd-pleasing 24-ounce jars.... (I do my jams mostly in little 4-oz jars for the same reason! Better to open several if I have company than let any get mouldy...) jt, Until you acquire it, I might recommend instead you try a combo of some parsley and some of that Mexican oregano. (I used some myself from a plant grown from your cutting the other night, because I didn't have quite ENOUGH cilantro. Made a very nice addition.) I would suggest you toast and grind the cumin first so you aren't encountering little seeds when eating the salsa. The amount in the recipe refers to 2 tsp ground cumin, so if you used 2 tsp of whole cumin you used considerably less (since ground is more efficiently packed); you might want to up that to get more flavour as well. Z |
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- Posted by lonewolfmichigan 5b (My Page) on Wed, Aug 22, 07 at 23:27
| This is a great thread.Thanks for the tips.I've never been able to 'perfect' my salsa recipe using the BWB method but Annies recipe has gotten me closer.My family likes it hot and I added 1 habenero to the recipe.I'm 99% sure that this will be my 'keeper'recipe when canning salsa. I'll know for sure this Winter when the Holidays roll around and the ooh's and ahh's are abundant when tasting home grown salsa. lonewolf |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Thu, Aug 23, 07 at 12:13
| Zabby writes: > I think cilantro is an acquired taste (so are hot peppers, LOL!). I didn't used to much like it, ESPECIALLY the smell, and it's grown on me to the point where I love it now. Until you acquire it, I might recommend instead you try a combo of some parsley and some of that Mexican oregano. Zabby, You are so right about hot peppers being an acquired taste! I was in my early 20s before discovering the joys of heat. Shashlik while stationed in Germany and curry during my several visits to London during the same tour of duty got me started. Anyways, I find Mexican oregano much the same as I only like a little in my cooking still. Needed for an authentic taste I think and enjoyable unless too much is used. I might go with celery and MO in my next batch. Not real keen on parsley either. What irritates me is that I could have reduced the amt of cilantro even lower than the 50% I used that recipe called for and added more if needed after cooking sauce for 10 min. And maybe the taste will mellow after a couple weeks storage. A half pint salsa is just abt right for one serving for me unless plan to make the salsa the entire meal. Picked a half gal bag of MO this morning and have in the dehydrator. It will dehydrate to almost nothing and I hope to get two shakers full of flakes. Two trays of cilantro been in for two days at 95° and have upped the temperature to 120° and might go up another 5. The humidity is so high here that I could dehydrate forever at low temps and the herbs still would not flake or powder. jt |
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| I bought 1/2 pint wide mouth jars here and plan to put salsa in those. No bowl needed, just pop the top and dip! John, have you SEEN our Annie? Here's the pic she posted of herself. Grannie ain't gonna do it!! Turn THAT into a label! DARFC, |
Here is a link that might be useful: Annie!
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Thu, Aug 23, 07 at 13:28
| > John, have you SEEN our Annie? Deanna, WOW! It just goes to show how wrong I can be when mentally imaging people by their screen-name. She's hot! I had thought she was a grandmotherly type. Kinda my age. jt |
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| I think she dyed her hair shortly AFTER her 50th birthday........yeah, you'd never guess, huh? Not sure how old you are, but Annie IS a grandma....just not your stereotypical grandma! :+) I, on the other hand, have had short, brownish-gray, curly hair for almost 10 years....I just turned 44. It's fun to actually "see" people after imagining them for so long! Deanna (anxiously waiting to see the Salsa Label you create!!! |
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| Bump. Got your labels made John??? :+) Deanna |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Fri, Aug 24, 07 at 13:00
| Deanna, 44 and looking good! Did anyone else notice any similarities between the two lucky men? I still think (my) Annie's Salsa label might end up looking more like Granny Clampett. Way too much on my to-do list before get to label making any time soon. Bought some great looking local-grown Kirbys and stringbeans this morning and going to start some new ferments. A chile-head friend of mine sent me a couple 1 1/2 liter bail-type jars that am dying to put to use. Much better than the Ball jars that are similar. Almost bought some more tomatoes (Roma... aargh!) for another batch, but came to my senses just in time. The cilantro in my dehydrator is about ready. Don't think I'll be posting my picture anytime soon. LOL jt |
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| Hey all, Made another batch of the salsa this time using the BWB. I tasted the batch before canning and in it I could taste the extra vinegar and prefer the pressure canned version. I haven't tried it after canning it as they all sealed. Maybe the extra vinegar mellowed after cooking? I also put up 7 quarts of tomato juice, so I was one busy gal yesterday. My husband often inquires why I want to put myself through so much work canning for no more than I get. I tell him the salsa is more like a treat and then I ask him why do I bother to cook Thanksgiving dinner? I can say that I am very proud of those finished jars and I know come this winter with each jar I open the work will pay off :)
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| That's right Lesa! And if your DH doesn't appreciate it, maybe buy some store-bought salsa for him! :+) See if he feels "left out" after THAT!! I ordered 25# of canning tomatoes last night (pick up tonight) and my DH said: "Why do you do this? We can buy tomato stuff so cheap!" I said: "NOT that tastes like THAT!!!" He said: "True" and shut right up!! (grin) I'll be picking up the tomatoes for salsa and soup tonight. 'Nuff said. Deanna |
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| Deanna, don't you and DD look mighty fine! Thanks for sharing. Great colour for mother of the bride --- my mom (MUCH older than you --- *I* am 42 --- but just as proud & happy!) will wear her outfit of a v. similar lavender for my wedding in September. (My little sister got married in July and she wore it then, too --- she says once she put together a great outfit like that darned if she isn't going to get as much use out of it as she can, LOL.) Zabby, who sure doesn't look as good as Annie but will try to get a photo of her in wedding dress (dark red silk) with her wedding-reception tomato platter to share with y'all. |
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| Hi, just wanted to say I just made my first batch of Annie's salsa this season. I also hate cilantro, so I chop all the veggies and then put in a few leaves of cilantro in and then put it in the fridge over night. The next day I take out the cilantro leaves and then add the salt, sugar, vinegar, spices and then process. It gives just a hint of the cilantro without having to bite into it! It works for me. My favorite way to use the salsa is to first grill chicken breasts, then cut them up and toss it into a pan with the salsa to heat it thru, put in a tortilla shell and top with desired toppings. It is so yummy, and a quick meal! It's hard to eat just one! Thanks again Annie for working so hard on the recipe and then sharing it. It's my DH favorite, and he has guys begging for jars at work. They say they will pay top dollar, but he says it's just not for sale!!! Maybe he should sell a few jars then I could buy more canning supplies. Brenda Slow to start canning this year, missing my Dad, feeling blue! |
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- Posted by mellyofthesouth 8 Netherlands (My Page) on Sat, Aug 25, 07 at 12:17
| I feel terrible. I still have salsa left on my shelf from last summer. How can it be? I must stop my hoarding ways. Well, hubby being away for almost four months didn't help things. It is fun to put faces to screen names. This is my recent self portrait. I can also be described as having short curly brown/gray hair. I admit to enhancing my eye color with photoshop. They are more gray/blue but didn't stand out enough when I made the rest of the picture b&w. |
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| Has anybody tried fresh basil instead of fresh cilantro, or would that make it too ''Italian?'' |
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| Hey All, Since everyone is posting photos, here is a link to my myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/lesa01 |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Mon, Aug 27, 07 at 6:18
| Lesa, Enjoyed my visit to your myspace! Another lucky husband out there. Still thinking abt an Annie's Salsa label. Getting closer Basil might work, Ken. I'm not big on basil either, but would be better than cilantro. I opened up a jar on Saturday that had had some time to blend/mellow and thought the cilantro was even stronger. Maybe celery? I like celery. jt |
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- Posted by laura_lea60 7 Jones (My Page) on Mon, Aug 27, 07 at 10:00
| Hello all~My but don't you all sound friendly & busy! I just found this forum Saturday and have already canned 16 pints+ of Annie's Peach Twist. Just a note to Petro...concerned because I had to add brown sugar. Do you think it was merely sweetness of peaches or tomatos? Had to add because was really salty...to me. I'm an ole' canner and am sure I followed recipe to the T. For grins, will you throw it on again so I can double check my measurements? Thanks and happy to read all about canning. You're a peach! Ha. Laura Lea-Clayton |
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| Very nice Lesa..........but you're puttin' this "over 40" girl to shame!! :+) Cute, John, real cute! Your "photo" looks like ya been eatin' good! (grin) I like the Annie label. You need to put in WonderWeiner!! Her doxie she lost this past year. What a tribute to the little guy! Laura lea: Deanna |
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- Posted by petrowizard z5a NE IL (My Page) on Mon, Aug 27, 07 at 18:15
| Hi Laura, Welcome! You'll have lots of fun here. Always a new idea around the corner. Annie's Peach Twist is just like Annie's Salsa near the top of the thread, but substituting a quart of peaches for half the tomatoes. 1 quart tomatoes, skinned and chopped My tinkers are to leave out the paste, sauce and cilantro, and double the cumin. I think the paste and sauce have a tendency to overwhelm the peach flavor, which is very subtle. I dislike cilantro, but like cumin. I wouldn't worry about the sugar if I were you. I am having to add sugar this year too, mostly because my garden tomatoes are not developing much sweetness, even the varieties that are usually very sweet. It's been slightly cooler here this season, and that's the only reason I can come up with. I can't explain the salt issue. I've never had that experience, but everyone's taste is different and what is just right for me may be too much for you. I guess if I were you I would cut way back on the salt next time you make it, chill it overnight and then add the salt so that it pleases you. Then bring it back up to a boil and can as per the recipe. Petro |
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| sorry to insert a serious note in this fun thread, but I have just learned there is an herb called culantro ... used in Puerto Cooking ... since I'm having a bit of a taste problem with the cilantro, I'm wondering if anyone has tried this herb and how it compares. The recipes I find use both. finally found some semi-decent tomatoes at a semi-decent price and am furiously prepping them for a marathon canning session tomorrow -- at least three heat levels of Annie's salsa and a couple of my chili sauce (which I use in lieu of catsup (or ketchup, or whaterever). BTW, what was the concensus (how DO you spell that word?) on the cumin ... toasted? ground? last time I just smashed the seeds in my mortar and pestle. |
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- Posted by led_zep_rules 5 WI (My Page) on Tue, Aug 28, 07 at 2:00
| To address many topics in this thread: There are only two in my family, also, but we love salsa, thus the conversion to mostly canning it in quarts. We process for 30 minutes, and use about 1/3 cup of lime juice and 2/3 cup of vinegar for each batch. Salsa keeps so well, we have only lost one to mold when forgotten in the back of the fridge for a LONG time. Culantro tastes pretty much like cilantro to me. Looks quite different, though, short and spiky. My sister in Florida grows it. I LOVE cilantro, but mine never seems to grow at the right time or quantity for when I need it. I sometimes put some oregano into the salsa just to fill in a bit for cilantro, which I rarely have. I know this sounds funny, but we don't actually purchase much food, so we work with what we have because we compost a lot of produce as it is. I have been putting lots of cumin in my salsa. We made the peach/tomato roasted hot salsa today, 7 jars plus one jar that is mostly the thick liquid left at the bottom of the pot which we will label chili sauce. REALLY TASTY with our organic homegrown tomatoes, onions, and garlic, but of course every drop was needed to fill the 8 jars (mostly 24 oz. size, one smaller, a couple bigger.) So I had to make do with wiping the bowl and canning funnel and so on off with my finger while eating chips, and then eat some of a different batch of salsa that was in the fridge. About Led Zep Rules, well, they do, but the thing is all the clever garden names I tried when I signed up were taken already, organic girl and so on. Thus I went another direction entirely, as I do love Led Zeppelin. Got tickets to their final tour just when John Bonham died, so no go there. Finally saw them as Jimmy Page and Robert Plant twice, decades later. They were awesome concerts and extremely Led Zeppelin-like. Besides all the almost Annie's salsa, hubby and I canned 11 jars of pickled asparagus today, too, and some pickled jalapenos last night. Whew! Marcia |
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| Wow Marcia! Wish I could get hubby to help me in the kitchen canning. But, the more I think about it, he is helping me by staying out of my way :) |
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| Lesa: That's how my hubby helps too! Sometimes he'll help shucking corn or snapping beans...but that's not actually IN the kitchen! LOL Marcia: Try freezing some cilantro when it's mature for use in salsa later. Mine is always ready the first part of July and no tomatoes until now....I just chop, measure and freeze in those little ziploc snack sized bags. 1/4 cup each (amount for one batch of Annie's salsa). I can pull out as many as I need. It loses some volume and a little flavor, but it's better than nothing and sure is handy!! Deanna |
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- Posted by laura_lea60 7 Jones (My Page) on Tue, Aug 28, 07 at 16:51
| Hi again, Thanks for posting the "twist" recipe again and I appreciate your comments. Always helps to hear or see something that confirms a concern. What is the take on using cornstarch to thicken? Thanks again, |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Tue, Aug 28, 07 at 17:24
| Are you speaking of thickening the salsa with cornstarch or using cornstarch to thicken in canning generally? Cornstarch is not recommended for thickening; the only approved thickener (with the exception of about two tested mustard pickle recipes) is ClearJel. I don't think you'd want to thicken the peach twist salsa anyway. I'm guessing you'd find the viscous texture disappointing. Carol |
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| Hey guys. I'm brand new to canning having done some dill pickles two weeks ago.....and they are still curing. I love salsa and look forward to trying Annie's Salsa but I have a question. Are the seeds and membrane of the Jalapeños removed? By the way, I enjoy salsas that are picante. |
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| mikey, it's according to how hot you want the salsa..Leaving the seed makes it hotter..MY first batch I used 4 halapenos with out seeds and could hardly taste any warmth.I have made 9 batches so far increasing the warmth.The last I used 7 hala's and 7 haberneros with seeds and used cyannne instead of black pepper...had to have some water standing by to put out the flames on that one!!...lol |
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- Posted by led_zep_rules 5 WI (My Page) on Thu, Aug 30, 07 at 0:21
| You can remove the seedy part of the jalapeños if you like, but the end result is less heat. Usually if you want more heat, you keep them in, or if you are trying to tone it down, you pull the seeds out. We have been using the seeds of our jalapeños, we put in a bunch of them actually, we wanted a nice hot salsa. As for hubby, I am using the royal we a bit there, he did all the pickled peppers himself, most of the asparagus, and at least half of the salsa. He leaves the jam and fruit sauces to me, but salsa and pickled things are mostly his purview, in that he knows how to do them and doesn't have to worry about something setting. He canned 3 quarts of tomato sauce today. Lest you think he is completely fabulous, I should mention he doesn't clean up very well after himself. Marcia |
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| Thanks guys. I go for leaving the seeds in. I think I will try cold smoking the jalapeños and toms. |
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- Posted by buyorsell888 Zone 8 Portland OR (My Page) on Thu, Aug 30, 07 at 12:31
| Hello, I didn't realize this forum was here. I've been making freezer jam and dilly beans and would like to try this salsa. I grew up in Arizona and cannot find salsa that I consider edible here in Oregon except the Pico de Gallo at Baja Fresh and Chipolte fast Mex chains. I finally found a decent brand of chips after twenty years of trying..... I love Cilantro but absolutely detest Bell peppers. They give me terrible indigestion even if cooked. |
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| Hey, buyorsell888, welcome to Oregon AND more importantly the forum! So, what kind of chips???? If you can find Kettle Sesame Corn chips, give those a whirl! Kettle is, of course, an Oregon company! Yes, you can sub any kind of peppers you want as long as you keep the quantities of low acid ingredients the same. Same thing with the acid. You can use any combo of vinegar (at least 5%), lemon or lime juice (bottled only for consistency, not fresh). This is some good stuff! And flexible enough that you can make it to your liking. Deanna (just a couple hours south of ya). |
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- Posted by cloudy_christine 6B SE PA (My Page) on Thu, Aug 30, 07 at 14:35
| Has anybody made this with no heat? I've been reading about Annie's salsa for so long, and it sounds so good -- but I can't tolerate hot peppers at all. Would it be pointless to make it without them? Would the canned mild green chilis maybe add something of the right flavor? |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Thu, Aug 30, 07 at 15:29
| Hello Cloudy. Try a half-batch and see how it works for you. My guess is it will be different but still quite good without peppers at all or with the canned. Another option would be to play with hot pepper sauce, dried pepper powder (i.e. plain chile powder) or even cracked black peppercorns for a different sort of heat, if those are tolerable. Carol |
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- Posted by cloudy_christine 6B SE PA (My Page) on Thu, Aug 30, 07 at 15:42
| Thanks, Carol. I would like to give it a try. |
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| cloudy, Sure, leave out the jalapenos, and if you like you can add a wee bit more of sweet pepper or herbs or onion --- whatever you DO like --- since it will keep the low-acid ingredients the same! People who like a lot of heat use LESS bell pepper and MORE hot pepper. Zabby |
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| Maybe a dash of cumin? Deanna |
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| " Just a reminder that sugar and paste are totally optional in Annie's recipe. The salsa is safe without those additions and didn't include them in its original incarnation." When and why did Annie add these? What difference do they make? |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Fri, Aug 31, 07 at 1:36
| Well, I don't know when but Annie added the tomato paste for thickness and the sugar for sweetness. It's totally optional. Some years tomatoes are sweeter than others. You can do what you wish with either. Carol |
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- Posted by buyorsell888 Zone 8 Portland OR (My Page) on Fri, Aug 31, 07 at 15:03
| Thank you for the welcome. One brand of chips is Solena and the other is Calidad. Both obscure brands but closest to Arizona Mexican restaurants that I can find here. Chipolte fast Mex restaurant also has outstanding chips. Their food in general is wonderful to my taste. Mexican food is very different in different parts of the Southwest. AZ, NM, CA, TX all have very different tastes. It is really different up here! |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Fri, Aug 31, 07 at 16:10
| Hello buyorsell888. I see you're in Portland. If you get a chance and haven't done so yet, drive south about 35 miles to Woodburn. It's 50% Hispanic and you'll find a number of stores/bakeries etc. in the old part of town. Carol |
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| Do a little research ahead of that drive and you can hit several Pick Your Own places too. Deanna |
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| buyorse, I love Chipotle, too! They don't seem to have any here in Canada, but we go to Cleveland once a year for a craft show and my fave thing about that trip is that the place we stay is right near a Chipotle. I could eat those chips with salsa and guacamole all day.... I met my BF when he lived in New Mexico and I sure did appreciate the food there when I visited. Now he's moved way up north to be with me, I'm growing anaheim peppers so I can cook some of our fave things, maybe one day I'll even surprise him with the "national questio of New Mexico": "red or green?" ;-) Welcome to the forum. Keep us up on all your harvest adventures! Zabby |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Sun, Sep 2, 07 at 10:55
| What do you guys think about using tomatillos in place of the cilantro? Turns out I really hate cilantro. Going to try another batch sometime this week. jt |
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- Posted by petrowizard z5a NE IL (My Page) on Sun, Sep 2, 07 at 15:16
| jt, I really hate cilantro too! Really, really. I just leave it out. There is no safety consequence, it's not a high acid ingredient. After you make it without the cilantro, you can taste it and decide if you want to add the tomatillos. Petro |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Tue, Sep 4, 07 at 13:41
| Neighbor left what must be 10 lbs tomatoes on my stoop this morning. A lot of them are cracked with mold and rot starting so guess can't use in canning even if cut away bad parts, but a couple lbs of the paste tomatoes look usable. So I went to wallyworld and bought peaches, tomatillos, parsley and more tomatoes. Do chopped tomatillos directly replace part of the chopped tomatoes to keep the recipe safe for BWBing? I might add up to a cup if I like how they taste. jt |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Tue, Sep 4, 07 at 15:28
| Tomatillos are high-acid and can safely be substituted in any recipe calling for tomatoes. It's nice your neighbor left tomatoes, but I'm sorry to hear most sound good only for the compost pile. Carol |
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- Posted by sandy0225 z5 Indiana (sandy02256@yahoo.com) on Tue, Sep 4, 07 at 20:58
| If you have the time, try grilling the tomatoes and peppers and onions before making the salsa. It's awesome! |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Wed, Sep 5, 07 at 8:35
| I'm a big fan of flame roasted peppers and will give that a try this morning. Maybe the onions too. Made this motorized basket a few years back especially for roasting pods. Turn on the rotisserie burners plus the bottom burners and there is some serious heat in a hurry. Blister the skin on all sides until starts to split and throw whole mess into a papper bag or other container that can be closed and let set until the skins are easy to peel. Hope to get started in 30 min or so. Don't want to run out of steam like Zabby. :) jt |
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- Posted by prairie_love z3/4 ND (My Page) on Wed, Sep 5, 07 at 10:47
| Thanks for the idea of using tomatillos for part of the tomatoes. I have tons of tomatillos this year and am looking for something other than straight tomatillo salsa. Zabby asked if the minced garlic was packed in oil and therefore if it was safe to use ... I don't think anyone answered that (although I may easily have missed the answer), so I am curious .. are they packed in oil? Do you all really not use cracked tomatoes? Mold I can understand, but usually with cracked tomatoes I just cut away the exposed area and use the rest. Is this a bad practice? Ann, who loves all the discussions of Annie's salsa ! |
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| In answer to the question about the minced garlic, no it is packed in water. Check the label before you buy it, but I buy mine at Save-A-Lot and it is not packed in oil. Use 1/2 teaspoon per clove of garlic. For Annie's Salsa I use 3 teaspoons. The minced garlic is a great timesaver and I use it in anything that calls for garlic :) Lesa |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Wed, Sep 5, 07 at 13:17
| Holy smokes what a lot of tomatoes! I started out by getting a 5 gal pot of water boiling to loosen tomato skins and a 3+ gal pot of ice water (mostly cubes) to cool the toms before removing skins. Cored and Xd tomatoes on the bottom and 3 x 3 boiled them just enough so that skin starts to peel before plunging into the ice water. Then after peeling started chopping the toms and putting into a large glass measuring cup sitting on top of more ice. (I'm a big believer in keeping ingredients iced down) Anyways, ended up with 8 cups diced toms from the box my neighbor left me! The vast majority were beefsteaks that were much better condition than my first analysis. Almost 1/3 of that box turned out useable for canning. Others I will salvage by cutting away the bad parts and eating fresh. Many will still hit the compost pile. I still have 3 lbs of peaches and about 4 lbs of store-bought tomatoes to skin and dice. This might turn into a 2 day project, because not sure have enough sweet peppers. Plenty of hot peppers, onions etc. I just might have to work around the sweets. And have .71 lbs tomatillos want to work into at least one batch. And will slowly add parsley in place of the cilantro. Blah, blah, blah... just taking a break and rambling on. I have a couple of old Julia Childs DVDs where she would now be having a glass of wine I think to unlax a little. It's a Miller Lite for me. And what do you think Graham Kerr would be doing now? Back to 'work'. jt |
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| Graham might be napping.... |
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| Lol John :) I wish I had a neighbor to give me a bunch of tomatoes. It sounds as if you are really really busy :) I'm envious you know :) Work, work, work now, but this winter you will be very pleased :) Lesa |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Wed, Sep 5, 07 at 15:09
| I possibly should start a new thread? It's getting long & here is a slight subject change. Plunged the peaches into boiling water & then into icewater just like the tomatoes and the skin did not loosen like I expected it to. What did I do wrong? Boiled 3 or 4 times longer than would have for tomatoes. Going to just knife peel the rest so can get on, but just thinking about next time. jt |
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| Sounds like the peaches may a be a bit green??? Deanna |
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- Posted by katydidd4365 (My Page) on Wed, Sep 5, 07 at 20:17
| I am new to this forum. I would like to make this salsa. What is BWB? I am not familiar with this. |
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- Posted by buyorsell888 Zone 8 Portland OR (My Page) on Wed, Sep 5, 07 at 20:31
| I've been to Woodburn, I have customers there. I am a sales rep. Haven't been to any of the Mexican food stores though. There are actually several near my house but haven't been yet. DH is excited to try this salsa. We made some many years ago that was awful and haven't tried again. Going to have to buy tomatoes though. We don't have many that are ripe. BWB is boiling water bath, I think. A canning process. |
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| katydidd: Welcome to the forum! Jump right in, this a great group! Yes, BWB is boiling water bath. A process where jars filled with food and capped are placed in a large pot and covered with 1-2" of water and boiled for a specified amount of time heat and seal for shelf-stable storage. Sometimes called HWB or Hot Water Bath too. Pressure Canning is a different process. Deanna |
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| john, SO, how did the salsa turn out? (I agree that the peaches were prob. not ripe enough if the skins didn't come off. You can use a veggie peeler if need be but what a mess!) I chopped the onions and toms for another double batch last night while my tomato sauce was processing --- gotta get it made soon as we're leaving for the weekend this evening. Ann and Lesa, thanks for re-asking and then answering my query about the garlic --- I always just assumed it was packed in oil, never even checked the ingredients list on what I buy, DUH! I usually chop/grate my own fresh if I'm making something to be used uncooked, but if cooking it for a while anyway I find the pre-chopped just as good! Cheers, Z |
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- Posted by oknish z4 MN (oknish00@yahoo.com) on Thu, Sep 6, 07 at 16:55
| I have been reading this and I have a rather different question. I do alot of canning, but I do not put my jars into boiling water bath. I put my lids in hot boiling water and they seal and I have not had any trouble with them not sealing. Is this something that you need to do with salsa. Thanks for your help. OrDella |
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| That's an older method called Open Kettle. It's no longer widely used and NOT recommended. It doesn't get the product in the jar hot enough to be safe. Just because something is sealed, doesn't mean it's safe. Just follow a tested recipe from a reliable source and you'll have no worries! Deanna |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Thu, Sep 6, 07 at 22:09
| The seal is also weaker with open kettle canning, so it decreases shelf life and increases the odds of spoilage or micro-organisms like mold. Carol |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Fri, Sep 7, 07 at 11:43
| Zabby, The whole cloves (Spice World) peeled garlic that I buy in 3 lb containers aren't packed in anything. The minced garlic (I don't buy anymore) is packed in olive oil. Garlic remains the only thing that I have been unable to ferment by itself. Really convinced me just how good its anti-bacterial qualities are. Salsa...... Subbing chopped parsley leaves for the cilanto really helped for me. Yesterday batch #1 4 cups tomatoes Batch #2 8 cups tomatoes I forgot the tomatillos and will just chop them into the 2 or so pints that I'm going to freeze. Or I might pressure process them. The peach skin didn't seem to hurt a thing. The peaches were a bit hard, but I liked the flavor and they sure diced nicely in my new onion dicer. Tomatoes are the only thing that I have to dice by hand and they took forever as I am so stinking slow at things like that. Thanks again, Annie!! jt |
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| Holy smokes, this is still going? John, I love the label. And just for the record, I'm 52, that picture was taken this April. Yeah, I'm the grandmotherly type. (grin) And yesterday I canned 18 pints of my own salsa. No matter what Deanna says, I get 6 pints. I made a triple batch and sure enough, 18 pints total! Annie |
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| I'll bet ya weren't hungry when you were done either! Either that or Ashley was there to blame it on! |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Tue, Sep 11, 07 at 9:54
| Hi Annie! I made labels, but all they do is list the ingredients. (so far) Ended up adding 1 1/2 cups ea diced tomatillos & onions along with some niblets corn to the refrigerated extra from batch #2 and pressure canned. Made 4 12 oz jelly jars. And yesterday got a box of home-grown tomatillos from a chile-head friend in Maine! Cisneros, Toma Verde & a third kind with no name. 2.25 lbs of them. That will be abt 3.2 cups when diced. So will be making more salsa today or tomorrow. Going to use turtle beans and corn in this batch, but haven't worked out the recipe yet. I think black bean salsa is traditionally made with shoepeg corn. jt |
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- Posted by billbird2111 9A (My Page) on Sat, Jul 27, 13 at 21:21
| Just got done with a 5X batch of the original Annie's salsa -- somewhat modified to include roasted garlic and roasted bell peppers. This year we tried something new -- we added three Ghost peppers. I'm not sure if the heat will survive the actual processing. So many so-called "hot peppers" lose their burn once cooked. Only jalapenos it seems, hold onto that heat -- but even some of that is lost during the processing. We let our 5X batch boil for about 40 minutes. We'll put them through the pressure canner process for about 25 minutes. Always makes for great salsa! And it's been tested by a food safety lab here on the West Coast. It passed with flying colors! The pH was right on the money (3.81). Standard Plate Count test came in at less than 100. No pathogens to speak of. Seems hard to believe we've been canning this recipe for going on six or seven years.... |
Here is a link that might be useful: Roasted Garlic, Pepper and Heirloom Tomato Salsa (a riff on Annie's Salsa)
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