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| seen it in a post you can't say somthing like that and not give a recipie lol come on share with me i like mustard |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Fri, Sep 14, 07 at 12:52
| Once-upon-a-time we had some threads about mustards, but some dropped off and I see the ones that remain have dead links so forget that. I used to make all kinds of mustards but I haven't done it lately. I move from enthusiasm to enthusiasm, but now I'm thinking this winter would be a good time to get back to it. They do make wonderful Christmas gifts. So, here're some possibilities: Coarse Grain Mustard with Beer Pour the dark beer over the mustard seed and let it sit at least four hours or overnight. Place the vinegar, onion, garlic, and shallot in a heavy saucepan and simmer slowly until mixture is reduced by 2/3. Strain the liquid and chill it. Make a paste of the mustard flour and water and let it sit for 20 minutes. Stir in the vinegar reduction, salt, sugar, and allspice and add this mixture to the wet mustard seeds. Place the mustard in the container of a food processor and pulse until the mustard seeds are partially ground and the mixture is well blended. Transfer the mustard to the saucepan and simmer over very slow heat until it thickens, 10-15 minutes. Cool the mixture, place in a glass jar, and age on a cool, dark shelf for two or three weeks before using. I really liked this one. I'm mad at myself that I didn't note the source. Somewhere around here I have 3 or 4 books just on mustards. Bordeaux Mustard Categories : Appetizers & Nibbles Condiments Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method In a nonreactive pot or jar, combine all the seeds, vinegar, wine and garlic; cover and soak for 48 hours, adding additional vinegar and wine (in the correct proportions) if necessary to maintain enough liquid to cover the seeds. Scrape the soaked seeds into a food processor. Add the sugar, Worcestershire sauce, salt, tarragon, marjoram, pepper and turmeric and process until the mustard turns from liquid and seeds to a creamy mixture flecked with seeds. This takes 3-4 minutes. Add additional vinegar and wine (in correct proportions) as necessary to create a nice creamy mustard. (Keep in mind that it will thicken slightly upon standing.) This mustard benefits from several weeks of aging. Keep refrigerated. Yield: "3 1/4 cups" This is an old favorite, more of a spread than a mustard. There are lots of variations of this recipe around, but we like this one best. Note because it has eggs and mayonnaise, it must be kept refrigerated. People love this. It's terrific on rye bread rounds with elk sausage or rare roast beef. Ham sandwiches really shine with this. Good with any meat really. This makes a big batch. I often halve it. Sweet Hot Mustard Categories : Appetizers & Nibbles Condiments Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method Mix vinegar and mustard. Let stand overnight. Beat eggs, salt and sugar; then add to mustard and vinegar. Cook until thick. Cool; then beat in mayonnaise. I have never canned the following recipe so can't speak to that. It's not a safety issue as mustard (unless there're eggs or garlic or other iffy amendments) is not congenial to bacteria. However, there are varying reports about the quality of canned mustards. The new Ball Complete Book of Home Preserving does have some recipes. Fresh Peach Mustard Combine mustard and water; mix until smooth. Cover and let stand 10 minutes. Combine remaining ingredients in saucepan. Bring to boil and boil 3 minutes. Remove from heat and whisk 1/4 cup hot mixture into mustard paste until smooth. Repeat twice; then whisk in all remaining hot mixture. Puree in blender or food processor until smooth. Remove from heat and skim. Ladle into clean, hot 8-ounce canning jars to within 1/8-inch of tops. Seal according to jar manufacturer's directions. Place jars on rack in canner. Process 15 minutes in boiling water bath with boiling water two inches above jar tops. Remove jars from canner. Place on thick cloth or wire racks. Cool away from drafts. After 12 hours test lids for proper seal; remove rings from sealed jars. Makes about 3 (8 oz.) jars. Tip: Refrigerate Fresh Peach Mustard if not processed. If I get a chance later I'll see if I can search out some others. Since I have the books, I've never entered the recipes into my database. There's a cranberry mustard that's lightly pink, very nice for the holidays, great with turkey. I'm sure other posters will have their own contributions. If you (or others) have a preference for a particular style, give a shout. I didn't include any recipes, but there are also blends that start with a prepared mustard base of one sort or another. Probably the hardest mustard to duplicate well is Dijon. There are lots of recipes online, but how anyone can call it "Dijon" and not even include white wine is beyond me. (Not to mention we're in the wrong hemisphere.) Carol
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- Posted by bigfoot839 7 (My Page) on Fri, Sep 14, 07 at 13:07
| mmmmmmm these look so good thank you |
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- Posted by john__showme__usa 5 (My Page) on Fri, Sep 14, 07 at 14:24
| Here are some instructions too. I really like the hot and the crushed. jt |
Here is a link that might be useful: Penzeys
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| This is so weird. I spent part of my morning surfing for mustard recipes!! I am making homemade pretzels this weekend (IF I find time) and thought different mustards would be a good idea too! Also a Christmas gift idea for my office co-workers and the inevitable "snack trays" to come!! Here's what I saved plus a few of my ideas as additions. Basic Coarse Mustard 1/3 cup mustard seed Combine mustard seeds, vinegar and garlic in a small bowl. Cover and refrigerate for 36 hours. Variations: Horseradish Mustard: Add 3 tsp. horseradish This recipe for Basic Coarse Mustard serves/makes .75 cup Basice Country Mustard 2 tablespoons yellow mustard seeds -- coarsely ground Turn this recipe into a puzzle! [click] Ideas: If anyone makes some, please post and give us the details and results!! Deanna |
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| Cranberry Mustard Makes about 7 (4 oz) jars You will need: 1 cup red wine vinegar 2/3 cup yellow mustard seeds 1 cup water 1 Tbsp Worcestershire sauce 2-3/4 cups fresh or frozen cranberries (about 2 12-oz bag) 3/4 cup sugar 1/4 cup dry mustard 2-1/2 tsp ground allspice 7 (4 oz) glass preserving jars with lids and bands Directions: 1.) BRING vinegar to a boil in a medium saucepan. Remove from heat and add mustard seeds. Cover and let stand at room temperature until seeds have absorbed most of the moisture, about 1-1/2 hours 2.) PREPARE boiling water canner. Heat jars and lids in simmering water until ready for use. Do not boil. Set bands aside. 3.) COMBINE mustard seeds and liquid, water and Worcestershire sauce in a food processor or blender. Process until slightly grainy. Add cranberries and blend until chopped. 4.) BRING cranberry mixture to a boil in a medium saucepan, stirring constantly. Reduce heat and simmer for 5 minutes, stirring frequently. Whisk in sugar, dry mustard and allspice. Continue to simmer, stirring frequently, until volume is reduced by a third, about 15 minutes. 5.) LADLE hot mustard into hot jars leaving 1/4 inch headspace. Remove air bubbles. Wipe rim. Center hot lid on jar. Apply band and adjust until fit is fingertip tight. 6.) PROCESS in a boiling water canner for 10 minutes, adjusting for altitude. Remove jars and cool. Check lids for seal after 24 hours. Lid should not flex up and down when center is pressed. Oktoberfest Beer Mustard Zesty Peach Barbecue Sauce Thai Hot and Sweet Dipping Sauce Quick Tip |
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| Oohhh...we're on a roll now! Keep 'em comin'! Hmmmm...rolls sound good. Deanna |
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- Posted by bigfoot839 7 (My Page) on Fri, Sep 14, 07 at 18:40
| i got to get more jars lol |
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| My mustard was made with both yellow mustard seeds as well as brown mustard seeds. The brown ones have a much bolder taste. I also made mustard pickles and used some ground celery seeds in them too. The mustards were thickened slightly by using Clear Jel. Because I had a lot of the mustard left, I also chopped up some cukes into a small bits, added chopped onions and a few dried sweet red pepper flakes for color. This was for a batch of hotdog relish. |
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- Posted by msafirstein Northern Illinois/Z5 (My Page) on Sat, Sep 15, 07 at 0:48
| i got to get more jars You're darn right! I never thought about making mustards...how fun. Michelle |
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- Posted by mellyofthesouth 8 Netherlands (My Page) on Sat, Sep 15, 07 at 4:21
| The cranberry mustard intrigues me. I have some raspberry red wine vinegar that is 5%. I wonder how that would be in it. Then it would be raspberry cranberry mustard. |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Sat, Sep 15, 07 at 13:07
| Ooh, Melly, that does sound good. I have some French raspberry wine vinegar that's been sitting around while I figure out what to do with it. What a good idea. I am definitely saving this thread. Carol |
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- Posted by msafirstein Northern Illinois/Z5 (My Page) on Sun, Sep 16, 07 at 10:56
| I'm not sure these can be canned or not but they sounded so good to me. 1/4 cup yellow mustard seed In a small bowl, combine mustard seed and dry mustard. In a 1- to 2-quart stainless steel or nonreactive saucepan, combine remaining ingredients. Simmer, uncovered, on medium heat until reduced by half, 10-15 minutes. Pour the mixture into the mustard mixture. Let mixture stand, covered, at room temperature for 24 hours, adding additional vinegar if necessary in order to maintain enough liquid to cover seeds. Process the seeds and mixture in a blender or food processor until pureed to the texture you like --this can take at least 3 or 4 minutes. Some prefer whole seeds remaining, others a smooth paste. The mixture will continue to thicken. If it gets too thick after a few days, stir in additional vinegar. Scrape mustard into clean, dry jars; cover tightly and age at least 3 days in the refrigerator before using. 6 tablespoons white mustard seeds In a blender grind mustard seeds finely. In a glass or ceramic bowl, mix together mustard powder and 3 tablespoons water and leave to stand 30 mins. Blend mustard mixture and the rest of the ingredients until mustard acquires a grainy texture. If mixture seems too dry, add a little more water or honey. Cover and let stand 12 hours before pouring into sterilised jars. Seal. Store in a cool, dark place 2 weeks before using. Refrigerate after opening. Yield: 1 c. Yield 1 c. 3 T. mustard seeds Combine the mustard seeds, dry mustard, water, and vinegar in a bowl and let stand for at least 3 hours. 2. In a small saucepan, bring to a boil the wine or vermouth, cinnamon, tarragon, dill seed, salt, and cloves. Strain into the mustard mixture and stir. Add the honey and green peppercorns. 3. Scape into a food processor or blender and whirl to a puree. 4. Transfer to the top of a double boiler over simmering water. Cook for about 10 minutes, stirring often. (The mixture should be a bit softer than finished mustard, as it will thicken as it cools). Crush a few more peppercorns slightly and add, if you like texture and a little more bite. 5. Scrape into a jar, cool, and refrigerate. Keeps indefinitely. Makes about 1 cup Pink-peppercorn mustard Ό c. black mustard seeds In nonreactive container, combine mustard seeds with alchol and vinegar. Let sit 40 hours. Check periodicallly to make sure seeds are covered by liquid; add more if necessary. 2. Transfer seeds and liquid to a food processor. Add remaining ingredients. Process untill seeds become creamy, 4-6 minutes. Recipe By : Martha Sewart Living Tarragon Mustard (Emeril Lagasse) 1/3 cup yellow mustard seeds In a non-reactive bowl combine all ingredients and refrigerate overnight, covered. Transfer the mustard mixture to a blender and process until mustard has obtained the desired texture and thickness it is equally delicious whether you leave it chunky or smooth. Store in an airtight, non-reactive container in the refrigerator for up to 2 weeks. Serve with pumpernickle bread, salmon and garnishes. Creole Mustard Recipe 1 cup dry white wine Sterilize three 1-cup jars and their lids, and leave in hot water. Combine the white wine, garlic, celery seeds, allspice, salt, cloves and nutmeg in a small, heavy saucepan. Bring the mixture to a simmer over medium-high heat. Remove the pan from the heat and allow to sit, uncovered, for two hours. In a large bowl, mix the ground mustard seeds (see notes below) and tarragon and malt vinegars until you have a smooth paste. Return the pot with the wine infusion to a boil over high heat. Remove the pan from the heat and strain through a fine sieve into the bowl with the mustard paste. Mix well, stirring constantly. Pour the mustard into the hot, sterilized jars, leaving 1/8-inch headspace, and adjust the lids. Store in a cool, dry place for three weeks before use. Refrigerate after opening. Notes - To toast and grind mustard seeds: Place the toasted mustard seeds in an airtight container to be used later, or grind them with a mortar and pestle or rough grind in a spice or coffee grinder for use in other recipes. Another method to grind seeds is to place the seeds between two sheets of waxed paper and grind with a rolling pin on a flat surface. Tart Cherry Mustard This recipe goes well with pork and sausages, especially Teutonic and varieties such as Thuringer, hunter and summer sausages. The mustard can be refrigerated in an airtight container for up to 1 month. 2 tablespoons dry mustard, such as Colman's Combine all the ingredients except the cherries in a large heat-proof bowl set over a medium saucepan with a few inches of barely boiling water. Cook for about 15 minutes, whisking continuously but gently, until the mixture is thickened and smooth; a whisk drawn through the mustard should leave a line. (Do not beat it too vigorously, or it will become frothy.) Remove from the heat and add the cherries, stirring to combine. Taste and adjust the seasoning as necessary. Cover and refrigerate to chill thoroughly. |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Sun, Sep 16, 07 at 11:26
| The ones with garlic shouldn't be canned, nor should ones with onion or other low-acid veggies and definitely not mayonnaise-based or with eggs. I'd venture to guess the others with herbs, spices, juices and dried fruits would be OK, but why bother? Some mustards would suffer in canning (thicken and lose heat) and they keep almost forever in the fridge if you can manage to find the space. These are great-sounding recipes. I have all the ingredients for that pink-peppercorn mustard. I think I'll start that this week. Carol |
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- Posted by bigfoot839 7 (My Page) on Sun, Sep 16, 07 at 14:27
| more jars more jars now where did i put those lids |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Sun, Sep 16, 07 at 16:33
| Isn't that the canner's mantra? More jars, more jars. Carol |
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- Posted by shammierock 5blue water/MI (My Page) on Sun, Sep 16, 07 at 18:36
| Here's my favorite for Hot Mustard, we use it as a dip and also on sandwiches, etc. 1 cup Coleman' dry musttard powder, 1 cup brown sugar, 1 cup cider vinegar, 1 cup sour cream (can be light or fat-free) 3 eggs. Mix well, and cook in a double boiler, or a large pyrex pitcher in the microwave. In the microwave, cook for 2-3 minutes, stir, cook 2-3 minutes, stir, continue until mixture puffs up and is thick. Makes 2 pints. Store in refrigerator after cooling. (Can't be canned, but keeps a long time in the refrigerator). Trouble is, it don't last long at our house! Shammie |
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- Posted by bigfoot839 7 (My Page) on Mon, Sep 17, 07 at 9:19
| yea i believe it is carol i know i am always wondering where i can get more jars for a cheap price lol i think after joining this site i am also going to be wondering where can i store more jars after i fill them lol |
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| I made the basic coarse mustard from my post above this weekend. 'Bout took the top of my head off! I'm kind of a wimp, I guess. We sampled it right after I finished. I'm hoping it will mellow a bit after sitting for a few days in the fridge. Whew! Deanna |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Mon, Sep 17, 07 at 14:19
| Deanna, it's been a while since I fiddled with mustards, but I believe refrigeration stops most of the mellowing. If you want to try it again at another time, you might mix up the mustard but leave out the garlic clove and leave it at room temp a few days. Nothing harmful's going to grow in that stuff! Then you could add in the garlic clove and continue as directed. Carol |
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| Yes, I'll keep playing. I have a great Sweet/Hot recipe that uses mustard powder, but this is my first crack at grinding my own. I will probably try one that has other ingredients in it that are sweet (cranberry?). I want to make a "Singe Your Hair Off" hot one for my BIL for Christmas. Make I'll just add some Jalapeno to this one!! LOL Don't get me wrong.... I LIKE my BIL, it's just that HE likes really hot stuff! He sprinkles so many red pepper flakes on a slice of pizza that you can't tell what kind it is! I'm giving him a 'Spicy' themed basket. Dried Jals, Red pepper flakes, whatever the REALLY hot tiny peppers are from Penzey's (they're at home, I'm at work), Habanero Gold, Salsa, etc. My problem now is what to do with the cup or so of this mustard that's too hot for me! I may mix with mayo or sour cream for a milder spread. Whadd'ya think? Deanna |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Mon, Sep 17, 07 at 20:32
| Mustard powders vary in hotness, so when you switch brands or buy a new batch, your mustard may suddenly get hotter or milder. You can try warming your mustard. That should reduce the heat. Microwave at 50% power for say 20 seconds. Repeat as necessary. Or just heat gently in a pan. Olive oil will smooth it out and decrease heat. Or of course the mayo you mentioned. I really need to find my books. We've got boxes of books on pallets stashed in the garage, in the shop, all over the place. It's like some kind of crazy literary Easter egg hunt. Helen Witty has some great mustard recipes in "Fancy Pantry" and "Better than Store-Bought." Carol |
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- Posted by msafirstein Northern Illinois/Z5 (My Page) on Mon, Sep 17, 07 at 21:04
| I want to make a "Singe Your Hair Off" hot one for my BIL for Christmas. Make I'll just add some Jalapeno to this one!! LOL If you really want to make it singe, forget the Jalapeno and add a Habanera pepper. That should keep him happy and HOT! Michelle |
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| Michelle, I thought about that........but I don't want to HURT him!! Ha ha And........I've already got the Jals!!! Deanna |
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- Posted by gardenbug_girl 9a (My Page) on Sat, Oct 20, 07 at 16:53
| Learned how to can years ago in 4-H and now that my husband and I got our own little 0.25 an acre I've taken it up again. =) I was excited to see all the above posts but when I contacted my local extension service about canning mustard they said they don't recommend any recipes for canning mustard. Does that mean canning mustard is not safe? The nice extension lady did say she didn't know much about canning as it's not "that popular" in my area, but that an extension search didn't turn up any recipes so she said it "is not recommended" as there are no current established processing times listed. My blue book and so-easy to preserve book don't list any mustard recipes either. Is it safe then and just "not tested" by the extension service? If so, would a recipe like below (my husband's favorite family recipe) be OK to can as there is no oil, egg/milk product, etc Stir ingredients, place on medium heat. Bring to full boil for 2 min, stirring occasionally. Place in jars? and then what would i do? BWB? How long? Also, this is probably a stupid question but what does "EVOO" mean in the pink-peppercorn mustard? |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Sat, Oct 20, 07 at 18:56
| EVOO: Extra-Virgin Olive Oil. The new "Ball Complete Book of Home Preserving" has two recipes for canned mustard. Both call for 10 minutes BWB. Your recipe looks quite safe for canning. I don't see anything there to cause concern. Personally, unless you start adding garlic, onion or eggs, etc. I can't imagine problems with mustard, vinegar, sweetener. They're just not congenial environments for bacteria, canned or not. However, the Ball CBHP does caution against thickening the mustard too much (over-cooking) as that interferes with adequate heat-penetration. Prior to the Ball instructions there was discussion intermittently on rec.food.preserving of the pros and cons of canning mustards because it will thicken in the jar but more importantly, the heat of processing may destroy some of the mustard's heat/spicy bite. I've never canned mustard for that reason and haven't gotten around to trying the Ball recipes. Yours does sound great. I'd like to try that one sometime. Carol |
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- Posted by psittacinejungle z 5 (My Page) on Sun, Oct 21, 07 at 2:29
| I have a mustard recipe probably still somewhere in my files that I tried once. A chef on a daily news program I watched had developed it. If I remember correctly, it was a cooked recipe that was thickened with flour. HOT concoction! Didn't cool off even after months in the fridge. I didn't like the texture very well. I worked part-time in a wonderful Chinese restaurant for 15 years. There I learned to love the hot mustard, which is still one of my favorites. 1 part water A little goes a looooong way for me. Just a bit of the flavor is strong enough to ooze out of your nostrils and hang up in your tear ducts. Good on a ham sandwich as well as egg rolls, etc. but I think it is especially good used with mayo (in place of the horseradish sauce hubby likes) on a sandwich of sliced pork that has been cooked on the grill. Well, I just planned the main dish for tomorrow nights dinner! Crystal |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Sun, Oct 21, 07 at 3:31
| The Spice House sells mustard powder in "heats", a moderate heat for conventional mustard and a "hot" for Chinese-style mustard. Talk about taking your head off! Carol |
Here is a link that might be useful: Spice House Mustard Powders
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| Readinglady, with these powders mixed with water or other liquids, you should wait about half an hour or more before tasting. It seems that if you mix in liqud and try to taste immediately, the taste is very odd. They tend to get more 'mellow' after sitting for a couple of hours. To help add more boldness, grining up some gresh horseradish will also help. Brown mustard seeds (the kind in country style Grey Poupon) have a much bolder flavor. When I make mustards, I like to add some ground up brown mustard seeds too. I use a small belnder style coffee grinder for grinding the seeds. I knew someone who loved to mix the sweet and sour sauce with hot mustard, and use that as a dip. The Chinese type mustard is a specailly bread mustard seed, as the more common yellow mustard seeds you buy don't seem to offer as much kick. Also, the Coleman dry mustard powder seems to be close to the Chinese style. Now all you need is some Wasabe.. |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Sun, Oct 21, 07 at 12:30
| You're absolutely right, Ken. I've never tasted mustard that's not been given a chance to mellow. Every recipe I've used so far, both seed and powder, has sat at least 24 hours in vinegar or wine before being mixed with other ingredients. I can't say I've ever made Chinese mustard, though. It's just not my preference. Carol |
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| These recipes sound fabulous. And what a nice change for Christmas gifts (think my giftees are getting tired of my cranberry-orange jam). Where do you guys get your mustard seeds? And mustard flour? Is Coleman's the same as mustard flour? |
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| Colemans is in a yellow metal can in the supermarkets, and is pure ground dry mustard powder (flour). The bolder tasting brown mustard seeds can be bought through places like Spices Etc., or Penzeys. Also yellow mustard seeds are quite common, but I prefer to buy them from reliable spice sources. as opposed to the ones you see in plastic jars for 99 cents or less, which could come from anywhere at any time. Penzeys also sells both whole and ground, as well as the Chinese type wich admittedly is also Canadian. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Penzeys
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Mon, Oct 22, 07 at 2:29
| Mustard flour is just the British term for mustard powder, just as cornflour is the British term for what we call cornstarch. But in both cases it's exactly the same thing. I've ordered from Penzey's also. They have excellent service and quality products. Another favorite of mine is The Spice House, which is the parent company of Penzey's. (I should say it is the original company; Penzey's is a separate company started by the son.) I find their site is more informative and because they've been around longer their recipe archive is much more complete. You should save enough buying in bulk from companies like these to pay the cost of postage or even more, compared to the exorbitant costs of the little cans and jars. Carol |
Here is a link that might be useful: The Spice House
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| It seems to me even the recipes listed above that have onion in them would be safe to can due to the amount of vinegar proportions added. For instance the Bordeaux Mustard listed earlier has only 4 cloves of garlic, but has all that vinegar, wine, etc. added. Is the acidity or the density of mustard that makes it fuzzy for canning? Or is it just a "taste" thing? |
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| Not really, mustards can reduce acidity if more water, wine, or low acid ingredients are used. Many companies that make commercial mustads use the 20% vinegar and dilute it down to lower strengths, so that they can add things like honey, cranberries, orange, and many other flavors. Usually if a dried ingredient is added, and it soaks up the vinegar/acid, it should be safe enough. Heck, a commercially made mustard can last a day longer than forever, the same holds true for most ketchup. |
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| msafirstein's Spicy German Mustard (which sounds so good!) probably isn't safe to can because of the onion in it, correct? Do you think that onion powder could be substituted instead without compromising too much of the mustard's fresh bite, and would that render it safe? I'm still learning so much about this process, but all of it is exciting! |
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| Yes, dried things like onion powder are OK, as is dried peppers and dried garlic. I even have dried honey here. I wish Costco would start selling GRANULATED onion again. It was the only place where I could find the granulated type (McCormick large size). The powder tends to clump up too much. Instead, I decided to run a big jar of chopped dried onion though my small coffee/spice grinder and pour out the stuff into a sieve, where larger pieces were run through again. Just rememeber, that when you make a mustard from dried items like mustard powders, it needs to 'bloom and mellow' about an hour or two before tasting as it can really throw you if you taste it immediately after mixing. |
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| I don't understand why it couldn't be canned; it's got 1 1/2 cups of vinegar in it. The acidity ratio should be fine. For example, the Caramelized Red Onion relish from "Small Batch Preserving" (a popular recipe here on the Harvest Forum) contains "2 large red onions" and only 1 cup dry red wine plus 3 T of balsamic vinegar. Why would THAT recipe be safe to can, yet the Spicy German mustard, which contains only 1 small onion to 1 1/2 cups vinegar be unsafe???? Again, is it a density thing, because the acidity seems to be alright with me. |
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- Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on Thu, Oct 25, 07 at 17:34
| It's not that it's "unsafe," it's that it's "unknown." It might be fine but without testing there's no way to be certain. There is a density issue as a thick mustard thickens further during processing. Hypothetically if you had little chunks of onion remaining in the mixture you'd end up with small low-acid harbors for botulism suspended in a high-acid mixture that don't get adequately processed. How likely that is and the level of risk I'm not qualified to speculate. Beyond that, I return to the quality issue. Once I've made a mustard and gotten it "just right" I'm not eager to stick it in a jar and apply heat, which changes the consistency and dulls the flavor. Carol |
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| Most of these are very safe if stored in the fridge. I seriously doubt if they would spoil even after a year or more or refrigeration. About the only thing lost is the pungency, and thats going to happen with most mustards, and some other things pickled in a high acid. My mustard pickles have quite a lot of low acid items as cukes, onions, cauliflower and such, and the only acid is the added mustard which is all vinegar, no water. They do, hoever get a heat process. |
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- Posted by loves2cook4six (My Page) on Sat, Jul 12, 08 at 9:23
| I'm reviving this thread in the hopes that someone can help me with a recipe for Blueberry Mustard. Also what exactly does "canning" mean. It that the term you use instead of saying BWB or boil in water bath? |
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| In short- Canning means to PRESERVE for a longer time, some food products that have short term lives and are perishable. Obviously 'perishiable' items can spoil or go bad quite fast if exposed to air, light, and anything else that is found in common air. Canning, is a process where high heat and/or high acidity, high salt, high sugar will reduce, or destroy any possible contamination that is/was in contact with the food inside an air tight sealed jar. To achieve this end result, the heat applied must be capable of at least killing off most all toxins. With dense (thick) items, adding acids and pressure canning at much higher temperatures are very necsessary. The word 'canning' is a more popular term today since the invention of the original process of using metal cans for foods. It can also refer to 'preserving'. But canning, whether in metal or glass is the same. Today, there are still a few locations where actually metal type canning is still done in small scale bacthes. Very useful if you live close by and have an immediate need to get your food stuff protected from spoilage. BWB is a Boiling Water Bath, NOT to be confused with HWB, or Hot Water Bath. The latter is really unsafe as the heat needed is not as high, or controlled well enough to make home food that is being preserved to be safe for many weeks, months, of even many years! I just hope that the above definition for the word CANNING is read by all newbees.. Please correct me if I am wrong about the GENERAL statments I have just made.. Pressure canning has the ability to reach higher heat temperatues that should/would exceed the amounts of heat needed to kill the toughest strains of most bacteria. |
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| loves2cook4six, Here is a site that might answer some of your questions. Lynn |
Here is a link that might be useful: NCHFP
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- Posted by rachelellen Zone 8 CA Central Va (My Page) on Sun, Jul 13, 08 at 11:09
| I found this recipe over at Recipezaar, but haven't tried it yet so I can't vouch for it: Blueberry Mustard Ingredients * 4 tablespoons cornstarch Directions |
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- Posted by rachelellen Zone 8 CA Central Va (My Page) on Sun, Dec 21, 08 at 11:24
| ksrogers, I wish Costco would start carrying the granulated onion again too. Around here, there are many Mexican markets and even the regular grocery stores generally have a display of spices in bags that are offered for Mexican customers...I can't remember the name of the company, but that's where I get my granulated onion now. However, I did a google and found a website that sells it...I haven't bought from them and can't vouch for the site, but you might like to try them... |
Here is a link that might be useful: Granulated Onion
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| I buy the granulated and chopped onion from Spices Etc., Penzeys, or Bulk Foods. I use granulated and chopped onion, and minced and granulated garlic. I hate that powdered stuff as it just lumps up. I buy it by the pound, that fills one of those big plastic McCormack jars they sell at BJ's and Costco. Maybe even Sams Club. Minced and granulated garlic: http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/p-penzeysgarlic.html http://www.spicesetc.com/product/1011/1 Garlic, minced and granulated: |
Here is a link that might be useful: Granulated onion a little cheaper
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