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Purple Carrots

Posted by julie321 NL Z7 (My Page) on
Fri, Aug 20, 04 at 7:17

I've been looking for some seeds of purple/black carrots for next year and have come across 'Spanish Black' listed at Thomas Etty Esq. and 'Purple Dragon' listed at a few different places. I couldn't find Spanish Black anywhere else, and the details of it is no more than a blurb that states, "An ancient Spanish carrot". Purple Dragon is listed several places, but none of the places write on its history.
Can anyone help me find more info on either of these?


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RE: Purple Carrots

Hi Julie....I found this on amishlandseeds.com...Not much detail, but I thought I'd pass it along.....

"The purple carrots have been cultivated in Afghanistan for a thousand years, while white and yellow carrots were common in Northern Europe before the 1600's These early purple and yellow carrots were used for human consumption as well as for animal fodder. By the 14th century, carrots had reached Europe and China. Europeans, preferring the yellow types for their tables, began selecting for culinary attributes such as flavor, texture, and storability. By the 1600s, white and orange carrots emerged on the scene, the latter being prized for the human diet, probably because of its rich color. Over the next 200 years, orange became the carrot color of choice."

I'm sure someone who has far more expertise will have more info. One place that might be of interest to you is the Thomas Jefferson Center for Historic Plants at www.monticello.org/chp. Jefferson cultivated a lot of unusual plants, including vegetables and herbs. The Center might have something to offer you in the way of information.


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RE: Purple Carrots

The word black when used in reference to carrots really means purple, as I understand it.

Some SSE members list a black carrot by qualifying that the color is purple, not black.

Spanish Black is a name that has always been applied to a well known heirloom radish. That radish is usually round but can also grow ovoid or slightly elongated in which case I suppose someone somewhere might refer to it as a carrot, which it is not.

There are two excellent books on heirloom veggie history, one is Vilmorin and the other Fearing Burr's, both from the last century and both available in reprint.

The currently offered so called purple carrots, such as Purple Dragon, are modern bred varieties based on the purple carrot; they have yellow interiors. The goal has been to breed carrots with higher carotene content and the same thing is being done with cukes where yellow /orange fleshed ones are now bing released.

And as far as I'm concerned those purple carrots such as Purple Dragon don't taste very good at all. LOL I consider them to be a novelty.

Carolyn


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Carolyn, novelty indeed. I'm still curious.:)
I've found several references to varieties originating from Afghanistan and Turkey and It's these I'd really like to get ahold of. Apparently, the carrots are used in turkey to make natural dyes.
I've got some Afghani and Turkish gardening neighbors that I've asked to look around for purple/black carrots when they go home. There are also some being grown locally by a seedsavers group, but they don't offer seeds of it.


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RE: Purple Carrots

Several SSE members do offers seeds of the black/purple original carrots from the mideast, one is specifically IDed from Afghanistan, for instance, and some are from gene banks, but thoses varieties are available only to SSE members, alas, so I do hope your neighbors will be able to help you out.

Have you checked out St Marthe in France and Association Kokopelli ( formerly Terre de Semances) to see if they carry any of the original purple ones?

Carolyn, wondering why a seed preservation group isn't offering seeds to others b/c that kind of goes against all that stands for dissemination of varieties in order to preserve varieties.


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RE: Purple Carrots

Try this site: http://www.yigitfoods.com/eng_products_siyah_havuc.htm

Also useful info at the Carrot Museum


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I spent the academic year 1977-78 in Jerusalem. In the old city, the Arab merchants all had purple carrots for sale there at that time. I would suppose they would have been an old variety. I don't have any idea how one might get seeds. I thought they tasted pretty good.

Robert


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RE: Purple Carrots

  • Posted by tease 4 Quebec (My Page) on
    Mon, Oct 18, 04 at 11:09

Hi Just got the new Thompson and Morgan seed catalogue and they have the purple dragon carrots seeds page 161 Let me know if you find some somewhere else Bye Tease


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RE: Purple Carrots

One thing I will say about the Purple Carrots, is although I haven't grown them myself, I purchased them once from an organic market & was sorely disappointed with their taste. Or lack thereof. Way too bland for me.


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RE: Purple Carrots

There is a cosmic purple carrot listed in Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds. Also an Atomic Red.


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RE: Purple Carrots

I have a seed Catalogue from Aunt Martha's Garden: www.auntmarthasgarden.com

She has listed: Chantenay Red Core, Scarlet Nantes and... that's it for multicoloured or rather non orange coloured carrots.

It says that the Chanteney are nice and sweet and that the Scarlet is sweet and brittle.


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RE: Purple Carrots

I'm growing a variety this year called Cosmic Purple. I harvested some of them as baby carrots and found them to be very tender and sweet when steamed. Normally, from what I've read and experienced myself, baby carrots are much less sweet in the baby stage than mature carrots. Perhaps the contrary is true of this particular purple carrot. I was very pleased with my first attempt at growing purple carrots.


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RE: Purple Carrots

Grew the Atomic Reds this year - really pretty, though maybe a little tougher than regular carrots. Customers loved them.


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RE: Purple Carrots

I got the mixed "rainbow" seed packet from Amishland seeds and honestly germination on these and other (tomatos) was somewhat poor. So be careful if ordering from them. That being said I would love to grow purple (there are also and I'd like to grow.... yellow and "red"). There are a couple red Japanese varieties and quite a few yellow cultivars and now you can find purple ones (like purple dragon) fairly easily. Carrots were originally fyi reddish and purpleish so purple is just a natural color. Purple dragon may be a modern hybrid of an old color. But I doubt its much different from older types. Considering I don't think hybridizing of purple carrots has had much attention. :)


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RE: Purple Carrots

Hey,

A great site with lots of information on purple carrots;

http://www.purple-carrots.com

Hope it helps! :D

Here is a link that might be useful: purple carrots


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RE: Purple Carrots

After doing some research on my own, I feel that the true black carrots are not to be confused with the 'cosmic purple' or 'atomic red' that is popular here. Black carrots are cited as being Turkish, or Spanish, and the Afghani ones are probably similar as well. Here is a link from Turkey showing how black they really are. Not the maroon carrots with orange centres we're used to here in NA!
http://www.erkonsantre.com/

Hope this helps!


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So how do we get some seeds for these black carrots?


 
 

 

 


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