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Posted by starjr 6-PA (My Page) on Sat, Aug 1, 09 at 19:29
supposedly flower pink and keep foliage all year round.... |
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RE: My new hellebores....
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| Looks like 'Ivory Prince' or one the similar ericsmithii/nigercors-based hybrids. Did you have a question? |
RE: My new hellebores....
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| not really a question just hope they do all right - they are lenton rose.... |
RE: My new hellebores....
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| Lenten rose is the common name applied to Helleborus x hybridus (erroneously referred to as H. orientalis). It is sometimes misapplied to all varieties of hellebore. Your plants are not H. x hybridus, as evidenced by the red leaf petioles and the leaf shape, but most likely one of the aforementioned other hybrids. The bloom time should be similar to that of Lenten rose. And FWIW, any hellebore is a great plant :-) Is there a specific purpose for the rock mulch? It would not be my first choice. |
RE: My new hellebores....
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Foliage also resembles a Helleborus hybrid, marketed with the name 'Candy Love', which has a pink flower. Said to be a cross between H. lividus & H. niger, which if true, it would become H. x ballardiae, a recognized species of garden origin. A local Dutch vendor, who obtained original material from Belgium, had them tissue cultured in China and offered flowering sized plants for $2. After the flowers faded, they were reduced to 7/$10, at which time, I stocked up on as many as I could load. They also had H. 'Snow Love', a H. x ericsmithii species at same pricing. Had to make a second trip for a load of those! My kind of place to shop! Rb (PS - I justified the obviously glutenous behavior, by pretending to aid the economy!) |
RE: My new hellebores....
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| Nice haul, Rb!! How come I can never find deals like that....? As an aside, unless you are feeling particularly sticky today, that would be gluttonous behavior :-) |
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OOPS! Spellchecker failed again! The word should have been spelled glutinous, as in sticky fingers or possibly obsessive, compulsive behavior would have been appropriate! Rb OT..... Gardengal48- Has the Hort business improved in that area? Have frequent contact with Gary & Jack, the Boyz at Naylor Creek and their sales appear to be robust in selected products. In my area of the SE, we are trying to recover from a cyclical drought period and sales of plants, other than Annuals and vegetables, are rather sluggish. |
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| Hi Rb..... It seems to be better this season compared to last :-) After a truly abominable winter for this area, there's a lot of plant replacing going on, which makes it great for the local nursery industry! And with the current state of the economy, a HUGE interest in growing edibles - way more than I've ever seen in all my years in the biz. On a personal note, I moved away from my garden of almost 25 years at the beginning of summer. Saved a few favorites (including a bunch of hellebores) and sold off as much of the rest as I could (place to become a rental property). I will be moving into my new place next month and working with a much smaller scale garden....not getting any younger!! It is in more shade than not, so will be looking closely at some Naylor Creek goodies to add. btw, I moved about 60 minutes closer to them, although they have stopped opening the nursery to drop-in sales :-( |
RE: My new hellebores....
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Gardengal48..... Good luck with your new garden! As long as you have some deciduous trees and bright light conditions, the Hs will do fine. We have a woodland garden, but few evergreen trees and they bloom well for us. Gary & Jack participate in most of the Flower & Trade Shows and Expos in the PNW, as far south as SF, so you should be able to find their plants closer to home. Have been trying to interest them in a few additional plant lines, including Helleborus, Tricyrtis and possibly Japanese Asarum (they do extensive trades there), but as they have no employees, I think they are concerned about time constraints and subsequent deterioration in quality. Good luck! Starjr.... Sorry, didn't intend to hijack your post. Good luck with your new Hellebores! For a long life of your delightful plants, insure that they have good drainage. Most important! Rb |
RE: My new hellebores....
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| hey no prob - and why no likey the rocks??? |
RE: My new hellebores....
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- Posted by morz8 Z8 Wa coast (My Page) on
Mon, Aug 10, 09 at 11:50
| Star, many of us wouldn't consider installing a rock mulch and landscape fabric application except for areas with no plants, or possibly some type of specialty garden like alpines or cacti. Leaves, debris and weed seeds are going to blow in over time and you'll have weeds sprouting in your rocks that won't be fun to remove. The rocks are going to hold a lot of heat that may not be appropriate for all plants, and could increase your watering needs. And, they won't break down to add/replenish nutrients in the soil leaving you to have to maintain a fertilizer schedule. |
RE: My new hellebores....
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| Ive heard after I did it that it was a bad idea but we had a terrible fungus problem with the mulch and so far no weeds and all the plants are doing great - and it is the very thick fabric and about 2"-3" of rock so hopefully not too much.... |
RE: My new hellebores....
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| Can you explain what you mean about a "fungus problem with the mulch"? Organic mulches do breakdown and fungal activity is an entirely normal and expected part of that process. The other aspect of rock mulches, especially those over a landscape weed fabric, is that there is minimal opportunity to replace organic matter in the soil, a situation both the soil biology and most plants require for good health. And rock mulches tend to heat up excessively. |
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| the fungus problem was orange like penises in the mulch everywhere---thousands of them - eggs and all - everywhere... |
RE: My new hellebores....
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| Ahhhh......stinkhorn fungus!! Although startling in appearance, they are pretty common and completely harmless. And actually edible. (btw, fungi produce spores, not eggs). |
RE: My new hellebores....
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| harmless but nasty and everywhere----and they mighta been spores but looked like alien eggs.....1,000's of them |
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