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Savory, summer and winter

cyrus_gardner
13 years ago

I have been on this forum for a couple of years now but I have not read anything

on Savory, summer or winter varieties.

People always talk about rosemary, thyme, sage, basil, oregano but not SAVORY.

I think SAVORY is one of the wonderul herbs with similaritis to thyme,

Tarragon and a little to some of the fresh basils.

Savory is very pleasantly aromatic, flavorful and retains them when dried. Rosemary, which seemes to be very popular, is a much TOO STRONG in flavor and for me it is not quite edible, just like lavender.

Savory, on the other hand, can be eaten off the plant, used in meat, chichen, and fish cookings, liberally.

I can only find one herb that comes close to it and it is Thyume, which is a bit too strong for fresh use in salad or salsa.

IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THRER WHO LIKES AND GROWS SAVORY, AS I DO?

cyrus

Comments (19)

  • fatamorgana2121
    13 years ago

    You know, I don't think I've ever grown that one. I'll have to try it some time because like you, I'm not a huge fan of rosemary.

    Thanks for the suggestion!

    FataMorgana

  • coing
    13 years ago

    I've grown it for many years, for me it makes an attractive, tidy low bush but it needs regular trimming as it spreads out. It is hard to divide so should be layered.

  • Daisyduckworth
    13 years ago

    I only grow the winter savory because it's a perennial, whereas summer savory is an annual. I also grow lemon savory which is very pretty and tastes good too. It goes well with beans - and reduces that after-bean burpiness!

  • cyrus_gardner
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Thank you for responding, ladies and gentleman. Yes, Daisy, summer savory is annual
    and you can collect your own seeds easily. It will also ressed itself if you leave it alone

    As I said, savory has similaritie to both rosemary and thyme but it is also different.
    It also has a minty, tongue numbing taste like tarragon but pleasntly stronger.
    So it can be a substitute for all those three with much wider use.
    The summer savory that I have is a middle eastern (Persian, called MARZEH) variety. It grows naturally bushy. WEhere as other savories tend to sprawl.
    Tomorrow I will get a picture and put it up.

    Cyrus

  • cyrus_gardner
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Here s a pcture of some summer savory plants as I promised.

  • ghoghunter
    13 years ago

    Yes I also love Savory both the annual and the perennial. One thing I noticed most of the local garden centers and big box stores don't sell it anymore. My Winter Savory had died and I finally got a replacement today at a specialty nursery. So I think most people don't see it and don't even know it exists!
    Joann

  • namfon
    13 years ago

    I grow Summer Savory with my beans

  • molfamily
    13 years ago

    I agree that Savory is a little too strong, but a good alternative is Creeping Winter Savory. It is great in stuffing. Here is one of the few websites that talk about it: http://www.improveyourhomeandgarden.com/creeping-winter-savory#more-4495

    Here is a link that might be useful: Winter Creeping Savory

  • maifleur01
    13 years ago

    Winter savory is the only plant I have ever gotten to grow in one of those strawberry pots. It was a chance planted seed so I have nothing to do with it. Every so often I will toss in some fertilizer.

  • kanuk
    12 years ago

    Even though this thread is old I just had to add my love for winter savory. I've had it in my garden for 3 years now. I started it from a cutting that I thought was thyme. Everyone was surprised that my thyme had survived the winters. Only until last week did I finally identify it as 'winter savory'. Again by accident a recent garden catalogue flopped open to a page showing a photo/description of winter savory. Voila! Mystery solved.
    I'm not a great herb lover simply because most are annuals in my zone 5. I felt an obligation to add a few herbs to my potager .. just because it seemed right. This one was the right one( by accident) for me.
    Upon identifying it through the accidental catalogue incident it was foremost on my mind & how I missed it's flavour in my breakfast eggs.
    So today, Jan 2, I made my way over ice & snow to where it's planted. Although a little beat up from winter winds & cold it was still holding on to many frozen green leafy branches. A snip snip here & a snip snip there & I was 'savour-ing' it on my breakfast eggs & reminiscing of warmer days.
    Winter savory ... the herb that keeps on giving.

  • barbe_wa
    12 years ago

    I really love my summer savory but depend on the winter savory when summer's gone.

  • monarda_gw
    12 years ago

    I love summer savory in green beans. I consider it an essential in my kitchen, fresh or dried. Winter savory is more pungent and a wonderful garden plant.

  • t-bird
    12 years ago

    I just transplanted 2 winter savories from the 1" starter cells to 3" pots....

    Also - a supposed english thyme in the next row - that looked identical - did a winter savory seed wash over into the next row? Or are they so similar as to look identical? They are at 2 sprout leaves and 2 baby first true leaves.....

    No luck so far with the summary savory row......will give then another week or so and then replant....

  • Irishgal2
    12 years ago

    I love savory and have to order it now, as local stores don't carry it and if you happen to find it, the price is out of sight! I'd love to grow it next season. I'll have to search for the winter savory, as local nurseries don't have it. I didn't understand the difference in summer and winter savory until reading this thread. Thanks for the info!

  • gjcore
    12 years ago

    Just to throw my 2 Cents into this old thread. Dug through the snow the other day to uncover the winter savory. Took about 15 cuttings and I'm pretty sure most if not all will take.

  • mimijacobs
    11 years ago

    I LOVE SAVORY, both kinds. But woe! alas! CANNOT GET THE DARN SEEDS TO GERMINATE. I've tried for season after season, indoors and out, zip loc bag method, greenhouse method, dry soil method, moist (no, not wet) soil method, "negligence" outdoor method and have bought packet after packet of seed and can't get it to germinate. What on earth am I doing wrong???????

  • alabamanicole
    11 years ago

    If you are near Huntsville, mimi, you could call Bennett's; they have a good selection of herbs right now.

    I ordered my winter savory from Mountain Valley. It's still too small, but if all else fails by the end of the summer I'll probably have lots of cuttings to share and you can try to root one of those instead.

  • S Gronhovd
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Am responding to this very old post. In my Polish/Gernan/Russian heritage in northeastern North Dakota, everybody makes and loves a green bean soup that is dependent on savory as the primary seasoning. As a college student, I knew it only by the low German name used in our community. I located it in a grocery store by opening jars and sniffing until I found the correct one. The gardeners of my mom's generation let summer savory reseed in their gardens, controlling the amount by choosing how much to hoe out each spring. I tried transplanting some into my Minnesota garden multiple times as well as seeding fresh seed, to no avail. I finally found a couple winter savory plants in a garden center several years ago. I carefully guard that corner of my garden to make sure it doesn't get worked out by any overzealous family helper. I don't find this perennial variety so useful in fresh dishes, but fold a bunch into quarts of green beans when I can them. The flavor infuses the beans, making them convenient for our soup recipe in winter. I LOVE the smell of the soup simmering in the slow cooker throughout the day. In fact, I bought green beans at the local farmer's market today, planning to can them with the savory from my garden in preparation for winter meals.

  • rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7
    7 years ago

    S Gronhovd, your greenbean soup sounds very appealing; would you be willing to share the recipe?