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Cardamom in flower!

Daisyduckworth
14 years ago

My cardamom is in flower, and I'm very excited because it's quite a few years old, and even here in the subtropics I didn't expect flowers because it doesn't get hot enough here (!).

The photo isn't the greatest, but consider the conditions under which it was taken. I'd intended to take a picture in the daytime, but clean forgot. So in the middle of the night, when I remembered, I actually got up, grabbed the camera, and groped my way around to the side of the house in complete darkness. I had no way of seeing what I was shooting at until I pressed the button and the flash went off - and this photo was the result!

http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj15/Daisyduckworth/?action=view&current=P9290009.jpg

Comments (30)

  • noinwi
    14 years ago

    maybe this will work...

  • barbe_wa
    14 years ago

    Wow, Daisy! That's beautiful. I've grown cardamom for years but I've never seen the flower before. Of course, in my zone there's no chance it will ever bloom here, but just seeing the picture is great. Thanks.

  • Daisyduckworth
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    Thanks, Noinwi for helping out! One day I'll master the technique (though don't hold your breath!).

    Yes Barbe, I'm tickled pink to see the flowers at last. They are pretty, aren't they?

  • fatamorgana2121
    14 years ago

    Daisy, that is beautiful. Thank you for sharing. It is always interesting what people grow in climates so much different than my own.

    barbe_wa's comments brings to mind a contest I saw once in a gardening magazine. It was if zone was no consideration, what would you grow and why? I never entered the contest but it was an easy answer, pomegranates and citrus, closely followed by figs (only "brown turkey" can survive where I live). Given my choices, the "why" is pretty obvious.

    But in that "fantasy garden" I'm sure there would be a place for a beauty like cardamom! Thanks again!

    FataMorgana

  • ltcollins1949
    14 years ago

    WOW! That is so cool! I've had cardamom in the ground for 5 years, and it has never bloomed. I didn't expect it to, but it would be a nice surprise. Congratulations Daisy!

  • cyrus_gardner
    14 years ago

    Talking about tropical plants, I have planted Indonesian ginger (galangal) and turmeric. They have nice green stems and leaves.
    But I have no idea if they will have roots by the end of season here and whether or not there is a chance for them to survive the winter. Our winters here don't get very cold.
    Occasionally we might go down to 20F and very seldom under 15F.
    Maybe Daisy can shed a light here. I would appreciate it.
    cyrus

  • fatamorgana2121
    14 years ago

    Hee! - 42 F is a rather tropical and balmy winter day for me!

    I've got a turmeric plant I started from a bit of root 3 years ago. It dies back each and every winter. It doesn't winter outdoors - it comes indoors in a pot and I only water enough to keep the soil from turning to dust after it dies back. And even in my rather northernly place to live, it resents full sun. Found that out the hard way but it recovered. And yes, it comes up very late in the spring....just when I think that it has died, there's a green shoot popping up.

    FataMorgana

  • batyabeth
    14 years ago

    wow, Daisy,it's lovely, but will you get the pods of little seeds that you can actually use? If you can, then I'm all for trying it in Haifa, as that would be a fond dream come true. I'm with FataMorgana on her list of gee, don't I wish! I'm in sweet home Chicago till Xmas on sabbatical, but as soon as I get back to Haifa to the new house, I've got a totally new garden to create from scratch, and I'm making wish lists like you wouldn't believe.......Batya

  • Daisyduckworth
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    Will I get pods and seeds? I await with bated breath to find out. I've waited a lot of years for these flowers - and more are coming along.

    Cardamom can get to be a very large plant indeed. Average height is about 5 metres, but I've seen them much taller than that, and the clumps know no limits. When/if mine produces some pods and seeds, I'm going to have to dig it all out and start a new plant, because I have such a confined area for it.

  • cyrus_gardner
    14 years ago

    Daisy, thanks for your advice on turmeric and galangal.
    I will pot them and bring the inside, until next spring.
    But will they produce anything next year. I like their foliage, which look very similar.
    Here in this part of GA, our winter lows can go down to 15F (minus 10C). But it may happen once or twice a year, for a day or two. But we get down to 25F(minus 4C) often.
    I am also growing Horseradishes. All these I started from store-bought roots. I hope my horseradishes will survive.

    It was informative to learn about cardimon, as it is one of my favorite spices. I put them in tea, coffee, jams, etc.
    cyrus

  • fatamorgana2121
    14 years ago

    cyrus, I would think if your horseradish, that you started from store bought roots, looks vigorous then you should be fine. Horseradish comes back every year for me since I planted it 5 years ago. Normally I avoid variegated plants but I did buy a variegated horseradish variety. It was just too interesting looking.

    I've seen many older houses that have unwanted or unknown horseradish patches that come back unbidden, despite mowing and all manner of other destruction. It returns early spring with the chives.

    FataMorgana

    Here is a link that might be useful: Variegated Horseradish

  • cyrus_gardner
    14 years ago

    FataMorgana, thanks. You have quite alot of showy plants.
    I like the flowers on them too. Can you get seeds from them? If yes, can you use the seeds like mustard seeds?

    My horseradishes have only big leaves(no stems), some leaves are over 2 feet long and 4-5 inches wide. They are healthy and vigorous for sure. As I mentioned, I planted them from what I bough from store. They were real fresh when I bought them. A lot of times horseradishe sold are old, dry and not suitable for planting.
    So , maybe next year I can harvest some ?!
    Cyrus

  • fatamorgana2121
    14 years ago

    The pictures weren't from my garden but this horseradish is a showy variety and it does brighten the space it is in.

    It is my understanding that horseradish very rarely sets seed. I've never seen it with my plant or others even though it does bloom. Propagation is via live roots. From what I understand, once you plant horseradish it is forever yours since it will eventually regrow from the tiniest root bits left in the soil. But if you leave only tiny bits, your harvest the next year will be rather disappointing. I linked an article on harvesting horseradish for you.

    FataMorgana

    Here is a link that might be useful: Harvesting horseradish

  • CA Kate z9
    14 years ago

    Just got back from our trip. Your Cardamon is beautiful.... and I want one!

  • judydu2
    14 years ago

    Your flower spike looks very much like the flowers of Alpinia zerumbet - shell ginger. The leaves look like it, too. While cardemom does belong to the family Zingiberaceae, true cardamom is classified as Elettaria cardamomum or Elettaria repens. The flower spikes of cardemom are horizontal stems that spread along the ground. They get about 2 ft. long and consist of many loosely held small blossoms that have white or yellowish petals with lilac veins and pink or yellow margins.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Shell ginger

  • Daisyduckworth
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    Well, I'm .... gobsmacked! That really throws a spanner into the works!

    All I can say is that it was sold to me at the local botanical gardens (who should know their plants) as Cardamom, and the leaves have a strong and unmistakeable smell of cardamom.

    Hoping this link leads you to a picture of the plant, taken some time ago.

    Here is a link that might be useful:

  • CA Kate z9
    14 years ago

    Daisy: you might have been sold the wrong plant. See the site below:

    Here is a link that might be useful: Cardamom (Elettaria cardamomum White et Mason)

  • CA Kate z9
    14 years ago

    Also look at:

    Here is a link that might be useful: Flicker

  • judydu2
    14 years ago

    Excellent links, westelle!

  • Daisyduckworth
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    SIGH!

    Oh well, the plant Must Go anyway - it's getting too large.

    But you must admit that the flowers are pretty!

  • cyrus_gardner
    14 years ago

    Sure, flowers are very pretty. Why don't you wait and see what will become of it. May be there are different kinds of cardimon plants?
    How about digging for the ginger roots?

    O! by the way , not trying to spam, I dug up some galangal and turmeric from my 4 month old plants.I was surprized. Next year I will plant some real early. Maybe I will start them indoors first.
    cyrus

  • Daisyduckworth
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    Cyrus, I have the REAL ginger, so I don't need to use an imposter! You have to be careful with members of the ginger family - many of them are NOT edible.

    Galangal is best harvested when plants are 4-6 years old and at the end of the growing season.

    Turmeric: Rhizomes of 2 year old plants are dug up in autumn or early winter and dried. They are dull brown outside and deep yellow inside. If using fresh, the rhizome is crushed to extract the reddish-yellow, almost tasteless juice. To make powdered turmeric, scrape the rhizomes clean of all small roots and dirt, then simmer till tender. This may take 1-4 hours, depending on the size. Dry whole in the sun in warm areas or, in cooler areas, slice them into chunks and dry in a cool oven till brittle. Bash them with a rolling pin or put them in a blender till powdery and store in a sealed jar in a dark place.

  • cyrus_gardner
    14 years ago

    Thanks Daisy.
    I have been buying fresh turmeric roots and drying them raw,(cut to small thin rings first) then powder them when fully dry in food processor or coffee mill. I also use them fresh like ginger. I just bought couple of pounds the other day. This time I will follow your direction.
    But wouldn't simmering take some of the flavor and color away?
    Unfortunately I cannot have galangal and turmeric for longer than one season here. So I have to settle with that.

  • lilce51286
    10 years ago

    Day 2 from a co-worker giving me a cardamom plant. This pic was Monday sitting on my desk at work and now I've taken it out And potted it. I'll have the updated pic to follow. So far I researched about the care indoors and its mainly keep between 72-80F, partial sun, keep moist/well draining soil, and can't do cold. Is there anything I may need to know to help this new experience w/cardamom growing indoors? Also I wouldn't mind placing the plant under my deck (southern exposure) but I know it'll get too hot eventually. Maryland summer right now is so humid but under the deck it's partial sun as well.

  • lilce51286
    10 years ago

    Updates pic of the cardamom: in the kitchen where the blinds will allow me to adjust the sunlight coming in. It gets warm up here since its open and any suggestions are welcome on keeping the new 2 day old plant growing :)

  • lilce51286
    10 years ago

    Up close an personal

    Never heard of cardamom until my co worker asked me if I wanted one and I said yes. Extremely hot/humid here July Maryland weather. I keep my house spring-summer A/C daytime 75 & Night 73. Winter time heat gets set to 75f all season.

  • lilce51286
    10 years ago

    Forgot To add the plant is in my kitchen where it's in southern exposure: afternoon full sun only. In the morning suns out front for spring through summer. But I can adjust the light in the kitchen w/the sliding door blinds

  • jewels9081
    7 years ago

    Hi Daisy. Just saw these comments. A Philipino friend of mine gave me a cardamon plant years ago, I did not really nuture it until last year. I transferred it from a pot to the ground, fed it regularly with blood and bone and watered it religiously. It grew to around 5ft high and branched out somewhat. We've just entered into our late spring and I was outside this evening and noticed it has flowered on two branches much like your flowers. I'm pretty sure it is a genuine cardamon, as I also purchased a cardamon plant from our Diggers Club in Australia and it is identical to the one my friend gave me. I was stunned when I saw the flowers, as I thought they grew from the bottom of the plant. I'm hoping they will produce the familiar cardamon pods. I followed some of the youtube videos - which was rather difficult as they are all spoken in Indian - but learnt they cut off the lower leaves on the stems, which I did myself, in order to let the light and sun through the branches. I am delighted and thank you for sharing.