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Does this look like HVX?

bkay2000
12 years ago

This looks odd to me. Does it look like HVX to you?

I also know that I'm not the only one with "holy" hosta.

bkay

The Royal Standard really looks bad.

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This may be a photo of the same plant, as I had my Mom with me and could not concentrate on the hosta.

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This could be sunburn as it's on the top leaves only, but it seems early for sunburn.

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I don't know what this plant might be. It has red stems and the names ends in "art"

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Comments (19)

  • Gesila
    12 years ago

    I don't know about the HVX, but the last hosta is Purple Heart.

  • Johnsp
    12 years ago

    I'm not an expert either but I don't see any sunken areas that occur as the virus causes the cellulose which supports the tissue to collapse creating sunken areas in the foliage. Again though I'm not an expert.

    Scott

  • thisismelissa
    12 years ago

    That looks like cold damage to me.

  • bkay2000
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    I don't think we've had any cold.

    On the Royal Standard - there are three plants there and only one has the bleeding.

    bkay

  • Pieter zone 7/8 B.C.
    12 years ago

    The 'Royal Standard' looks like it has ink bleeding and I'd consider it very suspect. The 'Forest Fire' looks sun burnt -and slug damaged-, the 'Purple Heart' also looks suspect, a close-up of the leaves at the 7.30 and 12 position will provide some more detail and hopefully a definitive answer, its veinal pattern could be ink bleed or possibly a form of chlorosis....

    Pieter

  • Steve Massachusetts
    12 years ago

    I'd be worried about the Royal Standard. It looks virused to me. Pieter is right about Forest Fire. I also think the Purple Heart is OK. That just looks like new growth to me. I would bet those young leaves will green up fine in a few weeks. If they don't that's a problem. But just watch them. I often see that pattern with the new growth on seedlings.

    Steve

  • bkay2000
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Chlorosis is common here, as we have alkaline soil and water.

    Peiter, I can't get those areas you are mentioning any closer. My photo isn't that good. If I'm over there close, I'll go take another shot next week.

    I don't think it's slugs. I have similar damage (not nearly as bad as the arboretum) and the slug bait didn't slow them down. I've only seen two slugs this whole year and I'm going out at night regularly. What I've caught in the act are cut worms and some other kind of caterpillar. Dipel (powdered BT) works, but leaves a white residue on the leaves that doesn't wash off. I sprayed with liquid BT last weekend, but still found more damage.

    It looks like two bad hosta years in a row for us.

    Would you email the guy at the arboretum and tell him about the Royal Standard? They're putting up the Chihuly exhibit right now and he's probably under water with chores.

    bkay

    bkay

  • User
    12 years ago

    BKay, the holey slots? That is what I had, and it was sawfly larva. Some of the Bayer spray which has Merit in it will do the trick. The rose spray was what I used, not as potent as the other, but it seems to have slowed them down. I got some more, and also got some insecticidal soap. It is worth trying.

  • buckeye15
    12 years ago

    I don't think that is HVX in the Royal Standard, but it is almost definitely virused. My first guess would be Tomato Spotted Wilt Virus(TSWV), or Cucumber Mosaic Virus (CMV).

  • User
    12 years ago

    WHAT!!!!
    You mean hosta can get MORE THAN ONE KIND OF VIRUS?
    First I heard of it. Now I"m flumoxed. Here I am growing tomatoes and cukes in the garden.

    Drats!!! Has anyone ever had virus on hosta besides HVX?
    Oh drats!!!

  • buckeye15
    12 years ago

    Besides the 2 I mentioned above, I have seen Tobacco Rattle (TRV), Arabis Mosaic (ArMV), Impatiens Necrotic Spot (INSV), and probably a couple others I can't remember off the top of my head.

    Here a a couple links:

    http://www.extension.iastate.edu/Publications/sul14.pdf
    http://www.hostalibrary.org/misc/hybrid/diseases_of_hostas.pdf

  • ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
    12 years ago

    email chris .. and provide him a link to this post.. and get the definitive answer

    my GUESS ... fast growing early growth.. that bolted somewhat.. with possible cold damage.. at critical leaf expansion .. not my kind of cold.. just not warm ...

    i dont see the bleed.. bleeding is thru a vein.. all yours SEEMS to be within a given pair of veins .. and i think there is some sun/camera issues with light shining thru..

    its all so common looking to my repeatedly frosted.. and some frozen hosta right now ... [though i admit that second pic doesnt look good]

    but i have been wrong before ... and ALWAYS defer to chris ...

    email chris ... he is probably too busy to check thoroughly.. but will pop in upon request ...

    ken

  • hosta-see
    12 years ago

    You might go to the hosta library to the tab HVX pictures it has a example that looks a lot like your Royal Standard

  • ctopher_mi
    12 years ago

    Hi Moccasin,

    When I first looked at the picture I had the same thought as Buckeye - it looks like a virus, but not exactly HVX, so probably some other virus. Yes, there are a lot of plant viruses that hostas can get I'm afraid, its just that HVX is the most common one found. And Buckeye is an expert on this, so I would trust his judgement.

    About the other ones, those are all fast new growth that hasn't completely colored up, even the Purple Heart. Though the leaves on Purple Heart do have signs similar to "ink bleed", that isn't the way it will look with a virus. When you have virus ink bleed, the part that is bleeding out from the veins will be the wrong color. In this case, the correct color radiating out from the veins is dark green, which is the exact color the leaf is supposed to be. If it was a lighter color radiating out with the correct color between the veins, then you have a problem. But as the season goes on the leaves pictured above will color up normally.

    Hope that helps a little more.

    Chris

  • ctopher_mi
    12 years ago

    Oops, sorry, saw the original poster is bkay - sorry for the mixup.

  • User
    12 years ago

    Another couple of posts to the HVX threads which go in my folder.

    Buckeye, thanks for the links also. It surprised me about the other viruses, since HVX was the only one commonly discussed.

    I need to do a lot more reading.

  • anniegolden
    12 years ago

    I found this informative:

    Here is a link that might be useful: Odd Looking Hostas

  • bkay2000
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    They know about the virus on the Royal Standard. They think it's TSWV. As far as they are concerned, it's all part of the trial and finding out what and which varieties do well here.

    As far as the extensive caterpillar(?) damange; ditto. They rarely spray. If something has to be babied to stay alive, they abandon the trial.

    bkay

  • buckeye15
    12 years ago

    I hope they realize that TSWV is a vector spread disease. Thrips can (and will) spread that disease right down the row. TSWV can spread much more easily in a garden than HVX, which is only spread mechanically (by digging and cutting).