Return to the Hosta Forum | Post a Follow-Up

 o
Potting up a leafed out hosta?

Posted by Rock_n_Ruf 5 (My Page) on
Tue, Apr 8, 14 at 22:22

Hello everyone!
I brought in some of my potted hostas to get a little head start on spring, but I think my "Choo Choo Train" might have outgrown it's current home...
All of the leaves just look stressed.
Looking at these pictures, and how far along it is, would any of you replant this in a bigger container?


Follow-Up Postings:

 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

Please ignore Rock's nose....


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

  • Posted by Babka 9b NorCal (My Page) on
    Tue, Apr 8, 14 at 22:39

Slide it out and see if the roots are really crowded. Sometimes you cannot tell when they are leafed out, and Rock has a really big nose or this is a hosta with small leaves, or he is much closer to the camera. Hostas like to be tight in their pots, but you don't want it to be rootbound either.

-Babka


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

It's hard to say what might have lead to the plant looking stressed, but, I'd look at how wet the potting mix is and how much light it is getting before I'd even think about a re-pot. With the plant being this far leafed-out it may well struggle when you finally decide to take it outdoors.

Pieter


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

Did you just put this plant in a pot? Or does its petioles flop like that normally?

What Ken reecommends, and I havce discovered that, once again, he is RIGHT, is to take some low tack masking tape and holding the plant bottoms up so the leaves are hanging down straight, is to gently wrap the plant with some of the tape (my tape is blue). Do it tight enough that it will hold the pets erect when the plant is put in the ground or in some potting mix. With some of my plants, I also put a pole, or maybe an old curtain rod section, as a steadying object. It can be removed later.

After a week or more the tape sometimes loses its sticky, and if it is worn out you might chance removing it. But don't be in too big a rush, if the plant still cannot hold up its leaves you want to help it along.

Here is one of my recent arrivals which needed some assistance, which I provided with a stake and then the blue tape. I put this on a few days ago, and I noticed today that the plant is improving but not ready to hold up its own leaves yet.

The latest picture of my most recent arrivals. Tape and all.:


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

He is attached to my side, so he was pretty close to the camera...
This hosta is three years old and I've had it in that planter since day one.
The mix feels fine and it gets plenty of artificial light along with a little bit of sunlight through the day.
This is the first year it has looked like this and with as big as it is supposed to get (72"W x 24"T), I'm thinking it has to go into a bigger planter pretty soon!
I will try the tape method when I get home and give it some time with that to see how it preogresses throughout the next couple weeks.


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

lack of light intensity ...

and i wonder about lack of spring time levels of humidity in the house ... especially if you have a forced air furnace in z5 ...

it will have to be hardened off to outside.. both to temps and light ...

in my house.. i cant hear/read this enough: he is RIGHT ... lol ...

i tried this house thing.. in the way back machine ... for all the immediate thrill ... it didnt end well .. as piet notes... it probably wont look good the rest of the year .. but it wont die.. for this anyway ...

or.. you will figure out how to do it better than i did ... i was pre WWW .. so i was winging it ...

actaully.. now that i think of it.. i would buy forced hosta at hosta college ... in march.. they couldnt go outside til near june.. and seemed to go to sleep early in fall ... i dont know if i was a novice.. the furnace.. the forcing.. i dont know.. but i just quit buying forced hosta early ... or in the alternative.. lowered my expectations .. of what it would do the rest of the year ...

ken


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

The four I brought in were Blueberry Muffin (gone with bacterial rot), Fire Island, June and Choo Choo Train.
Here is a quick picture I snapped of the three before I left... Choo Choo Train is definitely lacking in appearance!


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

You asked for an opinion. My opinion is that they don't have enough light. That is based on my growing houseplants years ago. That's what the problem would be if it were an indoor plant. Given it's a hosta, I'm not absolutley sure.

June is usually a compact plant, yet she sprawls in your photo. (the petioles are particularly long.) If the one in front is Choo Choo Train, it has the same problem.

I've attached a photo of my neighbor's Night before Christmas. She had it on her back porch, where it got little light. (Normal, covered porch on the south side of the house with no trees blocking the sun.) Notice how elongated the leaves are. It was also planted too deep, as she added soil to the top of the pot when there was space. I raised it in the pot and we put it out under a tree. It was back to normal the next year, but she hasn't put it back on the porch, either.

bk


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

Indeed, there are some hosta which do not like pots. I learned that when I potted some of my DH's ancient undulata albomarginata to move south with us. In short order, all the white marginata disappeared.

When I created my in-ground bed, his hosta was the first selected for planting along the front driveway. It is now leafing out and some white margins are on the leaves. It is doing fine in this bed, which is raised and interplanted with palms and ligustrum and bamboo for shade.
IMG_20140409_102445.jpg


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

Yep! I was definitely looking for opinions!
After all of this, I will not be trying this method again...
I am a huge lurker on this website and I really do appreciate everything I read and every picture I see...
moc, bkay, ken - I do tend to take your opinions a little more serious than others...
Ken - your sarcasm and your "....'s" are great!
The garden bed these are going in will be worked on this summer to be ready for next spring, so they all only have (1) more summer to be in the pots - that is as long as everything goes right... i have a truck now, so that helps getting rid of the pesky rocks that i have to deal with...


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

lights should be no more than 2 inches from the plant ... and 4 bulbs would be better than two ... plain florescent ... and that is the indoor equivalent of shade ...

its already stressed.. i would not re-pot it ... that is not the issue.. nor the solution ...

ken


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

"Pesky rocks" is so funny.
In our property, there is not so much as a pea gravel natural or native to the site. We have instead roots roots roots.

When we moved from Massachusetts, I loaded as many big ROCKS....which DH called "glacial junk" ... into the PODS as I could lift. I have rock envy where you have too many rocks to deal with. I bet if you packed up some big rocks and drove south for a vacation, you could sell those rocks and make enough to pay for your trip.


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

I was going to post this in the other topic about forcing plants. Here is my solution to a cheap spot light that has been working for me.

I turn this
 photo b87d81cfe5580ce7e3b7bbdba0c07aca_zpsa4a0350b.jpg

into this
 photo 89e557141e7d27a43bd42807cf4b16c2_zps6038abab.jpg
 photo bd815ad56a3f14bd84796c74ce5b4449_zpsce9308aa.jpg

using CFLs you get 59.5 lumens per watt and 4' fluorescents you get 54.5 lumens per watt. This is very cheap, water jug is free, extension cord $1.37, 3 pack of 75W equivalent are $8.00 and socket adapter is $0.97. So for roughly $5.00 you can make a spot light.

If you want to get fancier you can buy a sheet of 1/2" foil faced insulation and cut it down to make 5 hoods and put as many lights in it as you want. The only down side is the heat that is produced out of the glass of the bulb, being that the ballast is attached to the end of the glass. Also, I found that the hostas started doing better when I matched the timing of the lights to what the sun is actually doing this time of year.

 photo 685dac49ed120f893acf52f24c5f4dca_zps82f6d35d.jpg

that's my 2 cents, plus a little more


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

Trust me! The rocks I'm dealing with are NOT the rocks you want in your garden...
They have been there forever and have mixed into several inches of the dirt below it and now it is like a cement patio...
I am a little OCD and can not allow myself to go over all of that nastyness. It must be fresh!
This will be the third plot of area that i'm re-doing...
Constant raking with a steel rake then shovel it up - rake - shovel - rake - shovel...
I just typed myself into laziness writing about it!


 o
RE: Potting up a leafed out hosta?

I see what you referred to in my thread, Devon. That's a great DIY grow light and I thank you for the suggestion! :-)

Rock - your thread interested me as I have forced some minis out of dormancy. They are doing well so far...but my bagged hosta I started indoors are not as "turgid" as they would be under normal conditions. after reading the comments above I am prepared not to expect these to look their best this year and I've learned that Lighting is key.


 o Post a Follow-Up

Please Note: Only registered members are able to post messages to this forum.

    If you are a member, please log in.

    If you aren't yet a member, join now!


Return to the Hosta Forum

Information about Posting

  • You must be logged in to post a message. Once you are logged in, a posting window will appear at the bottom of the messages. If you are not a member, please register for an account.
  • Please review our Rules of Play before posting.
  • Posting is a two-step process. Once you have composed your message, you will be taken to the preview page. You will then have a chance to review your post, make changes and upload photos.
  • After posting your message, you may need to refresh the forum page in order to see it.
  • Before posting copyrighted material, please read about Copyright and Fair Use.
  • We have a strict no-advertising policy!
  • If you would like to practice posting or uploading photos, please visit our Test forum.
  • If you need assistance, please Contact Us and we will be happy to help.


Learn more about in-text links on this page here