I'm a newbie,but just want to guess. I would say that first one is June,depends on how much light it gets so it could be different from your other one.
The 2nd one I would say Elegans.
I am just guessing and have very little experience!

blue angel..?

when my elegans was that size.. it had much rounder leaves ... but there is that whole seedling issue on E ...

something in my mind.. with pointed blue leaves always returns me to blue angel ...

IF and only if.. BA blooms at this time...

why not give us a pic of your other J .. maybe that is the one that is off ...

ken

This is the other June. In full shade, same age as the other. The other is also in pretty much full shade, but it's a higher, brighter shade. And again, the noid one emerges solid green in Spring and develops the varigation. This june looks variegated (and not as dark as it is in this pic) when it emerges in the Spring.

Coll,

If the first one comes up blue and then gives you the colors you see, it's Paradise Joyce. Otherwise it's Katherine Lewis as you have guessed.

As for the second, it's not Elegans as you probably know. But it's definitely sieboldiana. Is it flowering right now? I think it's bluer than Big Sam. Maybe Blue Mammoth? Not sure.

Steve

Steve, yes, the big blue one is flowering right now. The other one comes up green...but then I guess most of the blue hostas technically come up green too before taking on the blue hue.. Hm. It does have a waxy look and I just know the variegation is not immediately apparent in early Spring. So it sounds like it might be Paradise Joyce...if the variegation on Katherine Lewis is apparent as it unfurls?