From our experience, if you take out all the Pee Dee Gold, you'll never have a mature, big JOTN.

Personally, I've given up. JOTN is so very nice, but only for a short period of time, so I'm too old to put up with it.

hh

i agree with bily..

it will be a life long effort to grow ONLY JOTN ...

and i too.. have given up on dealing with it ... when DG takes over.. that will be the end of the other..

as they say.. hosta are inherently unstable.. and this is a prime example ..

ken