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Buried pail experiment 2010

peggy_hosta
13 years ago

It's my 3rd summer of this experiment and I think you'll see positive results as I did. My reason for this experiment was the root competition under an ash tree. I buried various size hosta in like-size containers. Some are 5 gal pails that have a few inches cut off the top, some are in 15" nursery pots, some smaller.

Some of the original containers didn't have any drainage holes and I have since drilled holes in them from the sides as they were holding water too long.

Reptillian- 5 gal pail, 8 leaves in'08,24 in '09, 47 in '10

Ultramarine-5 g.pail, 25 in'08, 53 in'09, 79 in'10

Bubba- in bag in 5 g pot, 20 in'08, 34 in'09, 117 in'10

Jewel of the Nile-5 g pail, 12 in'08, 19 in'09, 33 in'10

Fragrant Blue- 5 g pail, 25 in'08, 37 in'09, 81 in'10

Minuteman- 5 g pail, 25 in'08, 47 in'09, 62 in'10

Shade Fanfare-in bag in 5g pot-12 in'08, 36 in'09, 60 in'10

August Moon-15" diam pot, 10 in'08, 12 in'09, 52 in'10

Royal Standard-5 g pail, 9 in'08, 33 in'09, 89 in'10

Formal Attire- 5 g pail,6 in'08, 10 in'09, 20 in'10

Abiqua Moonbeam-in bag in 15"pot,10 in'08,14 in'09,61 in'10

Krossa Regal-in bag in 15"pot,8 in'08, 19 in'09, 39 in'10

fort.Hyacinthina-5 g pail, 20 in'08, 41 in'09, 59 in'10

Great Expectations-5 g pail, 7 in'08, 15 in'09, 32 in'10

Spritzer-in bag in 3 g pot,14 in'08, 20 in'09, 36 in'10

Lancifolia- 5 g pail, 30 in'08, 62 in'09, 70 in'10

Lemon Delight-in bag in 3g pot,25 in'08, 45 in'09,83 in '10

Peggy

Comments (16)

  • paul_in_mn
    13 years ago

    Peggy - Great Expectations from 7 leaves to 32 leaves in third year - I'm impressed - any pics?

    Paul

  • jennaj_z4mn
    13 years ago

    I am curious what kind of potting medium you used. I might try this on a few of my hostas planted along a wooded area. I would love pics too!

  • peggy_hosta
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Paul, I'll try to post pics tomorrow. I'm not very good at it since photobucket changed the format. I need to mow tonight as family is coming for a reunion tomorrow eve.
    Jenna, I use the same soil/dirt that I just dug out of that hole.
    Peggy

  • schoolb1
    13 years ago

    Wow,worth giving a try
    Judy

  • gardengirl_nancy
    13 years ago

    WOW those are VERY IMPRESSIVE numbers! I'd say it works great.

  • thisismelissa
    13 years ago

    Peggy.... Thanks for sharing the results. I have an area I am considering planting, but the presence of a large silver maple is what's stopping me. I'm going to give some serious thought to your technique!

  • on_greenthumb
    13 years ago

    This may sound silly, but why did you bag some of the hostas and not others?

  • florabundance
    13 years ago

    Hey Peggy,

    Thanks for the data/trial. It sounds like a winner!

    Jean

  • pearlgirl
    13 years ago

    Hi, Peggy...you just answered my questions also. Thanks for
    the info.
    Margaret

  • greenthumbz4mn
    13 years ago

    I'm impressed with your results. My question though is can you leave the plants in their containers indefinitely, or will they outgrow their pails???? Mary

  • Carole Westgaard
    13 years ago

    I don't get it - if there are too many roots, how do you get them out of the way of the pot? I fight every size root there is on this planet - from as big as an elephant leg to threads - millions in one square foot that make it impossible to dig. How do you get them in the ground? Only thing I could do is saw the roots but I'm afraid it would kill the trees.

    Westy

  • peggy_hosta
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    The reason that I put some in plastic bags in the pots was because those pots were former plant containers from a nursery that have 4-5 holes in the bottom of the pot. The plastic will keep the roots from getting into my hosta roots.
    I did encounter some medium size roots when digging the holes so I just dug a little farther off to one side. Most of the roots are small and easy to chop out.
    I'm not sure what I will do once some of these plants get to their mature size.
    Peggy

  • peggy_hosta
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Another year has past and the buried pail hostas have all increased. Here's a list of about half of the previous year. The mosquitos were hungry!
    The first number on each line is 2008
    Second number 2009
    Third number 2010
    Fourth 2011
    Ultramarine 25-53-79-83
    Bubba 20-34-117-90
    Jewel of the Nile 12-19-33-38
    Shade Fanfare 12-36-55-60
    August Moon 10-12-52-66
    Royal Standard 9-33-89-100+
    Abiqua Moonbeam 10-14-61-69
    Krossa Regal 8-19-39-53
    Spritzer 14-20-36-61
    Lemon Delight 25-45-83-100+
    The leaves all look good and appropriate size for the cultivar. And of course, I baby them with a lot of warm lake water.
    Peggy

  • hostaLes
    12 years ago

    Re: Digging in "rooty" dirt, I have broken shovel handles, used full size axes, matics and finally found a good old post hole digger does the best. I keep my edges sharp. But an elephant leg size root - move the hole.

    Les

  • igmommy
    12 years ago

    So, you're counting leaves, not eyes? I use the spin-out bags. Don't the roots get into the holes in the containers? I've had maple roots jump the bags and that's even when I left an inch or so above ground. They can get squished down. I check every spring now and cut any that jumped in there. And, if you put plastic, how does it drain?

  • peggy_hosta
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Keana, I drilled holes in most of the pots about 6" from the top. I'm sure some ash roots are creeping in there, but much less competition than without.
    I counted the leaves because it was easy to do without disturbing the plants and the mosquitos.
    Peggy