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Lo-tech Slug removal

bunnycat
16 years ago

Going broke trying to keep a new hosta garden in the back slug-free. Every night they eat it all of the Sluggo. Could "they" really be only slugs? Every time I go out I have my ammonia spray bottle, and can always find some (lots). Can't seem to make a dent.

Tried Cowboy's solution (soda caps with Sluggo, covered with a dish. I used plastic dishes and a stone on top. No takers for days. Then after 4 days, every one of the dozen plus dishes were flipped off, all the bait was gone. I think it was my crow family.

Went back to scattering the bait in the garden, and around the perimeter. And lots of it. 95% would be gone each morning. I think it's really bad in this garden because it backs up to my fence, and beyond that is my neighbor's "wild" area. Slug heaven.

So..decided to go all out. Put out the Sluggo, and also twenty tuna and cat food cans filled with el cheapo beer. Some of the cans had over 2 dozen slugs the next morning.

Voila! Note the late comer to the party...

Comments (28)

  • esther_opal
    16 years ago

    They belly up for a drink and drown?
    Right?

  • anitamo
    16 years ago

    I've never seen such long slugs. Am I looking at this right? Or do they swell (lengthen) up after eating the Sluggo? ewwww.

  • bunnycat
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    Oh yeah! Fall right into the juice. And the weird thing is that it really pickles them. If I spray a "sober" slug with ammonia, it melts in minutes. Almost no trace left. I am vindictive, so sprayed the dead/drunk ones with ammonia, after picking them out of the beer with a stick (yick) just to make sure. The bodies were still on the grass a couple of days later. Preserved in alcohol. ho ho ho

  • bunnycat
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    They do lengthen..relax? They appear about 2" long, which is really gross. But I understand that they are 5-6" long in the Pacific Northwest. Maybe are called Banana Slugs? At any rate, banana slugs are mascots for Univ. California at Santa Cruz. Travolta wears a Banana Slug t-shirt in scenes in "Pulp Fiction" DH just HAD to order a banana slug tee from the campus bookstore for my son. He loves it)

  • v71nat
    16 years ago

    Our slugs drunk and crawl away. Have drown only the tenth part. I observed of them. I think, the others result friends following night. "Hey, Guys! In next garden free-of-charge beer pour!" They creep from neighbours of meters six to hosta Antioh, for example, every night
    Natalia

  • sassy7142
    16 years ago

    OH YUCK!

    I had to stick with the sluggo.
    The beer thing just didn't work for me.
    I tried, but by the time I reached the garden I had drunk all the beer.

  • v71nat
    16 years ago

    :-)
    Natalia

  • sassy7142
    16 years ago

    Bunnycat,
    Sluggo was getting too expensive for me too.
    I found a place online that sells it in 40lb bags.
    I had to pay for shipping, but no taxes.
    No more buying those 1 lb cans for $10.
    I saved alot of money on Sluggo buying it in bulk.
    Check out the link below.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Sluggo in bulk

  • v71nat
    16 years ago

    Sluggo is not afraid some water? Or this is metaldegit? You must use Sluggo again after each rain and each watering?

  • v71nat
    16 years ago

    I have found concern. to active Ingredient in Sluggo- it is iron phosphate, not metaldehyde. And what about watering and Sluggo?
    Natalia

  • sassy7142
    16 years ago

    Hello v71nat,

    I don't believe I've seen your name around here before. Welcome.

    Wow...you're in Moscow? Silly of me...but I guess I never thought of hostas growing in Russia.

    How many hostas do you have? What kind?

    Now, your question about Sluggo....according to the Sluggo ad it's supposed to remain effective after a sprinkle, irrigation or rain.

    Below is what I cut and pasted from their ad.

    Apply bait evenly at 24-44 Lb./acre depending on infestations, 1 lb per 1000 square feet or 1 teaspoon per square yard. Apply more heavily if infestation is severe. Reapply Sluggo as bait is consumed. Scatter Sluggo on the soil around or near plants to be protected. May be applied over the top of plants. Aerial applications allowed. Sluggo remains effective after a sprinkle, irrigation or rain.

    Sassy

  • v71nat
    16 years ago

    Hi, Sassy!
    We while do not have such remarkable Sluggo. The civilization has not come yet to our huts :-)
    I am hostaholik from Russia, really. I have about 50 hostas now, but it is difficult to get any new hostas in our country.
    In your country are very low prices and an enviable choice!
    Natalia

  • lynnem
    16 years ago

    Ack! My slugs are little tiny tiny things! I think I'd be afraid to go out in my garden if I saw those!

    Seriously, I'd expect to see those in the Pacific NW, but in NY? Geez.....

  • whip1 Zone 5 NE Ohio
    16 years ago

    Natalia, Welcome to the forum. I'm always interested in hearing how things are down around the world. Share some idea's and ask some questions. It's a friendly place.
    Sassy, I have the same problem getting the beer into the garden. :)

  • hosta_freak
    16 years ago

    Nancy,those aren't slugs,they are some kinda prehistoric monsters re-incarnated! Lol!! I haven't had nary a slug this year,or any year,for that matter. It has been too dry for too long,although we are getting rain now,again. I feel for you and your hostas. Phil

  • bunnycat
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    Hi Sassy,
    First off, I owe you a long overdue BIG THANK YOU for your source for cheap Sluggo. I ordered the big bag after reading about your "find" earlier this year. It took me a while to get around to coughing up the money all at once, rather than bit by bit. Around here they sell 2 lb. jugs for $19.99. Yes, you also have to pay shipping, but not sales tax. So that figures into the comparison also.
    While dawdling about spending the big bucks, I didn't buy another (third) jug of Sluggo, and the little buggers attacked. My fault. I had them under control for a while early in the year. Lately we get rain for a few days, then back to drought. Most of my hostas are ok, but I must have missed sprinkling the Sluggo in some areas, because the damage is random. I don't find a lot in the front gardens when I roll rocks or look under the leaf canopy on the bigger ones. The "problem" garden in the back yard is another story. I use Sluggo AND beer. I need all of the help that I can get back there.

    Natalia~
    A big welcome to you! It's really cool to have new members, especially from other countries. Please do tell us about your hosta collecting in Russia! By the way, Sluggo won't kill birds or pets or other wildlife if they sample(eat)it. It will last through several rainstorms or over-head waterings (hose and sprinkler). It depends on how much total rain falls. Since the slugs eat a lot of it, you can't always know for sure whether it is dissolving in rain or getting eaten.

    Lynne~
    Most slugs here seem to be only about and inch or less in length. Some stretch out to 2" when they are crawling across a rock, but then look thin stretched out. They blimp up on the beer. I've never seen a fat slug in the garden. They get beer-bellies I guess.

    Phil~
    I envy you! No slugs! We have even bigger ones at our little summer cabin in the Adirondacks. And gross snails too. EEEWWW! They all like beer. So do I, but I keep the good stuff for me. :o)

    ~Bunnycat

  • sassy7142
    16 years ago

    Below is an article I found on Hill Gardens of Maine website. I ordered some hostas from them and spoke to the owner about slugs last spring. I was going to try his method but went with Sluggo instead. Might give it a try sometime though.

    Here's the article.

    Saucers of beer? Forget it! You may nail a fewÂbut thereÂs a better way. Snipping the creatures in two with sharp scissors? Too labor-intensiveÂand yukky! Sprinkled table salt? Yes, salt does cause them to dehydrate and die, but thatÂs not the answer either. Which brings us to two highly-effective methods: one to thin the crowd, and another to prevent their re-entry into our gardens.

    Large populations can be quickly (thatÂs a relative term, depending on the numbers in your garden) reduced through the use of yeast-baited traps. Slugs love yeast! ThatÂs why theyÂre minimally attracted to saucers of beer. A more concentrated  and therefore more attractive to slugs  form will quickly draw them to their demise from several yards away. HereÂs the deal: collect two one-quart Mason jars with lids and pour two cups of warm water into one. Add a packet of dry yeast, and one teaspoonful each of salt and sugar. Mix thoroughly and divide the odiferous concoction between the two jars. Nuzzle each jar into soft garden soil at an angle so the lower lip of its opening is just at ground level. Slugs smell the yeast, travel to its source, crawl in and drown. Every two or three days, collect the slimy mess and either flush it or put a tight lid on the jar and place it in the garbage. Place yeast-trap jars every six to eight feet where populations are high.

  • v71nat
    16 years ago

    Do you have foto of yeast-baited traps? So it is interesting!

    Off. Thanks for warm words to me!
    I shall try to make foto album more quickly.
    My hostas list today:
    Abiqua Drinking Gourd
    American Halo
    Antioch
    August Beauty
    August Moon
    Big Daddy
    Big Mama
    Blue Angel
    Blue Diamond
    Blue Umbrellas
    Bressingham Blue
    Brim Cup
    Christmas Tree
    CliffordÂs Forest Fire
    Color Glory
    Colossal
    Elegans
    Fire and Ice
    Fortunei Aureomarginata
    Fortunei Hyacinthina
    Francee
    Frances Williams
    Goliath
    Great Expectations
    Guacamole
    Halcyon
    Honeybells (?)
    Invincible
    Krossa Regal
    Liberty
    Magic Fire
    Minuteman
    Night before Christmas
    Nothern Exposure
    Patriot
    Potomac Pride
    Regal Splendor
    Sagae
    Snow Cap
    Spilt Milk
    Sum and Substance
    Sun Power
    Thomas Hogg
    Thunderbolt
    Undulata Mediovariegata
    Ventricosa
    Whirlwind
    Wide Brim
    Zounds
    In our country since September up to the middle of February it is impossible practically to buy any hostas for any money. And very much it would be desirable! Therefore also has bought at this time many old hybridized hostas.
    Natalia

  • trilliumway
    16 years ago

    Just wanted to say hello to Natalia, too. I was gonna offer to send you some hosta (you said that you have a limited selection) but you are WAY ahead of me in collecting already. I just started last year. Anyhow, welcome and if you stick around, you definately need to learn to post pictures. It is always so much fun to see others gardens or just individual hostas or whatever. Welcome again. Oh, about sending hostas, would that have worked or are there some rules about sending plants overseas? Just wondering

  • mary52zn8tx
    16 years ago

    I am surprised that you have any plants left after seeing that picture!!
    Natalia your description of the slug beer party was funny. Welcome to the forum. I'll bet you don't have to worry about getting enough cold weather for your hostas like I do.
    Mary

  • hostaholic2 z 4, MN
    16 years ago

    Welcome Natalia. There are lots of very knowledgeable people on here. Your list of hostas sounds like you have a pretty nice collection started. The picture of slugs, Ew! Ugly buggers. Sassy, thanks for the Sluggo link. I missed a while applying it and some of mine look like swiss cheese. Think I'll definitely order bulk for next year. I had to prioritize which plants I protected this year. Guess we should be glad we don't have the slugs here that I saw when visiting Alaska a few years ago. My hubby and I were walking along ( I think it was in Sitka) and I thought someone had thrown a cigar on the sidewalk. Then I got close enough to see that it was moving. Ugh! That slug was enough to give you hosta nightmares.

  • digs57
    16 years ago

    So, what would happen if one was to add just a little ammonia to the beer or yeast brew? would they be repelled or attracted by the combined "fragrance"? Anyone in slug-happy country care to experiment?

  • v71nat
    16 years ago

    Kind time of day! Thanks all for kindness.

    Trilliumway, your offer to refuse it is impossible for hostaholic. If it is possible, I in addition would pay your services as I am afraid, that for you from Russia I can not send in the answer interesting hostas.
    Mary52, cold weather it is a sick theme for northerners, (also, probably, as well as a heat for You :-) As 9 months white winter also three months green winter (but not in this year)

    Hostaholic2, Greetings from Russian Hostaholics! Your knowledge of process of cultivation a host, really impress!

  • hostamanfred
    16 years ago

    Natalia, welcome to the Forum.
    If it was possible to send you hostas to Russia, I am sure some of our Forum members would be glad to do so, not expecting you to send anything back in return.
    Only plants, which have been inspected are allowed to go between Canada, the USA and Mexico.
    A question: are the Hostas you get grown in Russia, or are they brought in from other Europaen countries?
    Manfred from Berlin

  • v71nat
    16 years ago

    Manfred, greetings from the neighbour to the neighbour!
    I did not wish anybody to offend, as I understand, that people offer the help by kindness. 99% our hostas are grown up in Poland, Holland and Germany. At us it is considered, that your flowers are grown up better and at us they the most expensive (on 40-50%, I think). But the choice practically is not present. Though, I think, a wide range of hostas only in England, America, Holland, Poland and Germany. I was in many countries of the world, a variety did not see
    Natalia

  • v71nat
    16 years ago

    Manfred, excuse me, please- I not at once have read through, that you in Berlin lived earlier, and now have moved to Ohio :-)
    Natalia

  • ofionnachta
    16 years ago

    Say Natalia, dobrye utro from NJ!

    On the mason jar with yeast & sugar--I am washing out the nearly empty peanut butter jar right now! I suppose they will do as well as Masons. Does it work on snails, because they have been wrecking the hostas this year here.

  • sassy7142
    16 years ago

    ofionnachta, Yeah, I think a peanut butter jar, soup can or anything that holds water would work.

    About the snails....aren't they the same thing as slugs, just snails carry their little house on their backs? LOL