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Who eats my hostas and heucheras?

daniss
13 years ago

As my hostas beds are expanding someone also realized that there is a nice salad bar nearby..I know that rabbits eat hostas but I have never seen one around. We have deers but this time it was not deer. This someone nibbles on one varieties and constantly completely devours another to the ground. This time I placed a net over the hosta that was nearly erased early Spring and it has grown back nicely, and the next morning this hosta was eaten to the ground UNDER the net! This someone also eats buds of young (2-3 feet) Japanese maples and recently ate all of my heucheras to the ground. I believe it happened because no more hostas are around at this time.. I know this someone visits the garden at night or early morning.. Can it be rabbits, or may groundhog I saw only once nearby my plant bed? Any ideas..

Dani

Comments (19)

  • mosswitch
    13 years ago

    Groundhogs do like hostas, but they have never eaten my heucheras. Sounds more like rabbits, they do like tree buds.

  • daniss
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Wow! I have rabbits now!!! Do you think it will be helpful to place a live trap? I know I can search Google for 'How to get rid of rabbits' but I believe the experience of the gardenweb members and especially the hosta lovers will be the most helpful. This past season was the worst for me. I planted a small division of rare tree peony with only one branch and one bud, given to me by a friend, and a few days ago I found out that the bud was gone!

  • thisismelissa
    13 years ago

    Eh, I'm not agreeing with the rabbits and heucheras.

    I have lots of heucheras, front and center and I've NEVER had a bunny nibble on them. Even when all my hostas are treated with Liquid Fence, they still do not go to my heucheras.

    If you have rabbits, you've probably seen rabbits.

    And if you have snow on the ground, you'll see rabbit tracks.

  • ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
    13 years ago

    rabbits are rarely seen .. but what they leave behind.. is unmistakable ... see link .. and the idiot golden thinks they are a delicacy .... lol

    any chance at a pic of the damage ... words alone lead to speculation alone ...

    obviously.. unless you have monster rabbits.. their damage is going to be limited to a foot or so .. they wont be nibbling buds at 4 feet.. unless you have some REALLY big rabbits ... lol ...

    odds are.. you have some of both.. plus a few others ... most of my rabbit damage involves them severing a leaf.. and then hopping away .. w/o eating it ..

    if you want to live with the rabbits.. get rid of the Kentucky blue grass lawn .. and plant a meadow.. now that is a real salad bar for the vermin ... i usually have 2 to 4 rabbits on the 5 acres.. and never had a rabbit damage a plant.. they prefer the dandelions.. clover .. yarrow[??].. etc.. in what i call a lawn ... when you enforce a monoculture lawn.. you really dont give them any alternative.. but to go into the flower garden ...

    good luck

    ken

    Here is a link that might be useful: more abundant than rabbit kids

  • daniss
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Yes, I know that I can search the internet and I will do it as soon as I find out who could possibly do this damage. I have never seen rabbits, rabbits tracks or what they leave behind (thank you Ken) around my property, but I know there are rabbits in our area (town). I posted my question on here instead of searching the web thinking that those on here would be more familiar with my problem and grow similar plants as me - hostas, heucheras. Unfortunately there is no picture, we had a snow storm last night and everything is now under at least 2' of snow. Just imagine 1-2" stems from the ground and that is what is left from the hostas and heucheras. I have 5 heucheras and all of them were eaten to the ground one night a couple of weeks ago. I know this was not done by a deer because my 3 Cathedral Windows were eaten to the ground even covered with a net, and the net was still intact. Cathedral Windows and Holy Mole are the favorites of this someone; other hostas are only nibbled while some are left untouched. I also do have many japanese maple seedling that are 2-3' (not 4') and the buds on many are gone. I only have possible 40 to 45 hostas and am afraid to expand my beds until I found out who is doing this. Then I will search the internet on how to get rid of him or keep him away from my plants. Could it be squirrels? Any ideas?
    Thank you.

  • squirejohn zone4 VT
    13 years ago

    Maybe you should think about buying or borrowing a game camera.

  • mosswitch
    13 years ago

    There is always a Critter Cam or Game Camera to see what is doing it. Cost anywhere from $40 on up but might be worth it to identify the culprit. Available from your local Bass Pro or any other sporting good store.

  • in ny zone5
    13 years ago

    Whoever eats all the whole leaves of Cathedral windows must have a big stomach, or it is a whole family visiting. I had woodchucks eating beans and mowing down campanulas in the past until construction workers chased them out. Woodchucks (ground hogs) have hands and can pull down maple seedlings to taste buds. My single rabbid sleeps under a mugo pine and leaves droppings, loves heather, but hostas?

  • swmogardens
    13 years ago

    This time of year, could it be reindeer?

  • thisismelissa
    13 years ago

    I have some of the nastiest grey squirrels known to man. They will eat my garden hoses, but they have never touched my hostas.

    I don't have woodchucks, so I don't know if they'd eat hostas/heucheras or not.

  • daniss
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Never though about the camera! Probably a good idea, and I will look into it... This someone really has a big appetite.
    Thank you.

  • ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
    13 years ago

    i dont understand how a tall deer .. can eat under a net ... ergo.. i am thinking small ...

    and i dont see the deer putting the net back after eating ... though if they were that cooperative.. perhaps i would be a bit more lenient towards them.. lol ..

    but i think you missed my point.. or more likely.. i didnt make myself clear ...

    you need to sherlock this out.. we cant tell you so you can go research it ...

    it is not like some wraith mysteriously hovers down to the ground and attacks ...

    deer.. being large.. leave cloven hoof prints in soft garden .. and a large version of what look like monster rabbit droppings .. and tend to rip and tear off the leaves ...

    rabbits.. well.. you saw the link ... leave no prints ... and tend to cleanly slice the leaf petiole at the ground.. and then nibble away ... they do not tend to destroy a whole plant.. and more often than not.. cut a leaf or two.. then hop away without eating them .. and that really PO's me.. as i can accept a little damage to feed mother nature.. but that is just wasteful.. whats that all about ...

    i presume this happened in summer.. and you probably dont have a pic to help us.. but i dont know how we get past pure speculation without some further observations from you ...

    BTW ... went out for a walk in my 20 degree winter up here in MI ... in a foot of snow.. i saw rabbit tracks.. and deer tracks ... and if they are here in miserable winter.. they will most likely be here.. come spring ...

    check out the link again ...

    good luck

    ken

    Here is a link that might be useful: after your walk about.. substitute 'deer' in the google search ....

  • squirejohn zone4 VT
    13 years ago

    If I had to guess it would be woodchucks.
    You've already seen one.
    Another poster says they eat hostas.
    They could get uhder your netting.
    They can & do climb trees - re your maple.

  • daniss
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    �Deer putting the net back after eating..:) Ken, you are a funny guy and I like reading your posts.
    It reminds me of a friend who swore that his large sized dog could, in his owners absence, reach the pot on the stove, open the lid, eat what was inside and then place the lid back :0
    I did remove deer from my suspects� list at this time. Also because we installed a fence on three sides of the property, they can still come from the front of the house, but I believe it can happen once or twice per season and not every 3-4 weeks. I still believe it is not a rabbit as I have never seen its presence. Truly I am not a good candidate for Sherlock Holms, as I lost in this game. Probably the camera will be my Dr. Watson and I will post pics on this forum if my problem will come close to being resolved.
    Thank you everyone.

  • sharlened
    13 years ago

    I agree with idea of getting a game camera. Keep us posted with the results!

  • ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
    13 years ago

    unless your fence is 8 feet tall .. it will not stop deer ...

    ken

  • amuroskie
    6 years ago

    Couldn't believe your letter as I was researching my problem. Heucheras eaten to stems...only some the yellow and lime green ones. I think coral bells was one. Ant the had netting over them to keep the deer out. I have Never seen a rabbit here in 40 years. The foxes are plentiful. We do have voles and moles and chipmunks. May have groundhogs. Do have raccoons. They have decimated my early summer purchase of 5-6 beautiful plants. Again all under the netting. HELP!

  • PRO
    Paradise Alcove LLC
    6 years ago

    Hi amuroskie,

    Welcome :)

    How is the netting attached to the ground? Is there any space for a hungry critter to crawl under and wriggle out after feasting on your plants?

    have you tried a product called Liquid Fence? http://www.liquidfence.com/

    I have heard other folks here use it with success to prevent critters using their garden as a salad bar.

    It needs to dry on the plant leaves and reapplied if more than an inch of rain falls in 1 week and/or reapply every 3-4 wks.


    I have read about using Coyote Urine liquid form on purchased Amazon to deter.


    Also, sometimes netting is not the answer - for voles, moles, and chipmunks- they can dig under and hit the roots so a "root cage" (plastic or metal) may be helpful. You can purchase or make your own as shown in link : http://tastylandscape.com/2013/06/09/how-to-build-a-gopher-cage/


    Good Luck! :)