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| ISIS Report 09/01/12
USDA Scientist Reveals All
Glyphosate Hazards to Crops, Soils, Animals, and Consumers Don Huber painted a devastating picture of glyphosate and GM crops at UK
In less than an hour, Don Huber, professor emeritus at Purdue University and
Don Huber Don Huber, Emeritus Professor at Purdue University and senior scientist on
Since his letter to the US Secretary of State Tom Vilsak was leaked in February
His talk linked glyphosate to reduced nutrient availability in plants,
Pathogen new to science The conversion of US agriculture to monochemical herbicide practice has resulted
Glyphosate immobilises nutrients required to maintain plant health and
The pathogen can be cultured in the lab, and has been isolated from livestock
Read the rest of this report here
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| It shouldn't be taking all that long to sequence the genome - it can be done in a matter of days, if he has access to any decent university. But maybe the problem is that there isn't that big a DNA database out there on fungal pathogens. |
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- Posted by marshallz10 z9-10 CA (My Page) on Mon, Jan 9, 12 at 10:31
| What university wants to take on the biotech industry? |
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| "Nice little research department you got here. Be a shame if something happened to it......" |
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| googling up "Roundup Pathogens" it seems that Dr. Huber has been on the trail now for over a year. And Monsanto comes out with the obligatory ad hominum hit piece. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Your partner in farming, Monsanto
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- Posted by marshallz10 z9-10 CA (My Page) on Mon, Jan 9, 12 at 10:57
| Thanks. That is so typical of Monsanto and its apologists. So many of the depts. of biological sciences are now dependent upon funding from biotech corps. to erect and fund research facilities and hire graduates of such programs. |
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| It shouldn't be taking all that long to sequence the genome - it can be done in a matter of days, if he has access to any decent university. $7,000 and some clean DNA will get you the sequence. Annotation (linking genes and known or unknown functions to the millions of nucleotides in the genomic sequence) is still a hurdle. There is a growing need for independent, non-profit research work of this type. Now Monsanto has created a $$$ new market for a new pathogen. Classic Job Creators. Why do you hate freedom?
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- Posted by haydayhayday none (My Page) on Mon, Jan 9, 12 at 11:53
| I'm not a chemist, but I do know that there's a whole lot of good plants living in and on my body. That scares me when I think about the people living downwind from acres and acres and acres of Round-up sprayed fields like you see in some parts of our country. With the same, perhaps naive, logic, I try really hard never to buy and eat foods whose label ends with "urowyudjej", added to "preserve freshness". I don't want any food entering my body that won't rot. Hay |
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| Why do we call them "job creators"? They don't create jobs... they create wealth... personal wealth for themselves... often at the expense of jobs... Back to the topic... the use of so many dangerous chemicals in agriculture was/is bound to come back and bite the industry in the rear. It's scary to think about the possibilities created in the lab environment, and loosed upon the public. |
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- Posted by brushworks Zone5-Ohio (My Page) on Mon, Jan 9, 12 at 12:27
| No Marshall... What university wants to risk losing secret funding from the biotech industry? Dupont. The miracles of science. Back to the topic... the use of so many dangerous chemicals in agriculture was/is bound to come back and bite the industry in the rear. It's scary to think about the possibilities created in the lab environment, and loosed upon the public. Last year at the mulch yard the young man asked me if I wanted the mulch that is pretreated with preemergent. Good gawd, man! Hell no! COLUMBUS, OH � It turns out that application strategy is just as important as the types of mulches or herbicides used for weed control. The first-year results of the two-year study at Ohio State University revealed that herbicide applied between mulch and bare soil had benefits in reducing weed growth and was effective up to 120 days, compared to herbicide applied on top of mulch or with just mulch or herbicides applied alone. Some pretreated mulches (mulches sprayed with herbicides, dried, bagged and applied to the site afterward) offered even better control than those applied over or under mulches. Imagine spreading that mulch on a breezy day, passing it on to the neighbors and their children. Imagine the wind carrying that dust from the mulch yard when loading. Danger! |
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- Posted by kingturtle Zone 7 GA (My Page) on Mon, Jan 9, 12 at 12:53
| Interesting how this has not even been discussed by Obama or the FDA and in fact GM products are being embraced and deregulated - in a Democratic administration that promised to label GM products. Once again Obama's policies look alot like Bush's. |
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- Posted by fouquieria (My Page) on Mon, Jan 9, 12 at 14:09
| There's always two sides to a story. Even Dr. Huber's former coworkers at Purdue say his claims are unsubstantiated. -Ron- |
Here is a link that might be useful: Roundup
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| Has the "new pathogen" been photographed and circulated in the scientific community? Do we know for sure that nobody can identify it? |
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| Ron, IMO, better to err on the side of caution. Even though his assertions haven't been proven... pnbrown had a thread on about farm lands and the depletion of minerals. Dr. Huber is saying Roundup may inhibit crops from utilizing micro-nutrients(minerals) they need. No evidence or disputed evidence would not give me confidence to forge ahead. My reasoning stems from problems discovered with another widely known and used herbicide: we called it "Agent Orange". |
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- Posted by WHGANDNORAHG none (My Page) on Mon, Jan 9, 12 at 23:55
| The Pesticide Truths Web-Site has compiled more information about GLYPHOSATE ... *** Don Huber Discredited by His Own University and his Claims REFUTED by REAL Experts *** LACK OF CREDIBLE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE from West Coast Environmental Law and Josette Weir *** Health Canada Consumer Product Safety Re-Evaluation Note REV2010-02 Glyphosate *** Glyphosate Is SCIENTIFICALLY SAFE Please go to the following link ... http://pesticidetruths.com/toc/glyphosate/ WILLIAM H. GATHERCOLE AND NORAH G NORAHG is the National Organization Responding Against HUJE that seek to harm the Green space industry. NORAHG is a NATIONAL NON PROFIT NON PARTISAN organization that does not accept money from corporations or governments or trade associations, and represents NO VESTED INTERESTS WHATSOEVER. NORAHG is dedicated to reporting the work of RESPECTED and HIGHLY RATED EXPERTS who promote ENVIRONMENTAL REALISM and PESTICIDE TRUTHS. http://pesticidetruths.com/ |
Here is a link that might be useful: Pesticide Truths
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- Posted by maddie_athome (My Page) on Tue, Jan 10, 12 at 3:13
| Yawn. |
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| Any man made chemical, especially rooted in petroleum, that kills insects or plants cannot be good for the human population... that's basic common sense. |
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- Posted by marshallz10 z9-10 CA (My Page) on Tue, Jan 10, 12 at 9:06
| Monsanto's Minions have found this thread, I see. I really hate being shouted at for the sake of Agent Orange and related chemistry. |
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| Interesting how quickly they sent out the Monsanto shills. "Pesticide Truths" -- could they pick a more Orwellian name? Totally follows Monsato's MO: Q: Tell me about your involvement in uncovering who was orchestrating the attacks on the Berkeley researcher, Ignacio Chapela. GM WATCH: That really is a tangled web... |
Here is a link that might be useful: Monsanto's Dirty Tricks Campaign
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| Not exactly helping their case, here. No, wait, I get it. That post is actually a radical Hin-viro-mentalist trying to make Monsanto look bad by hiring internet trolls. |
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| I did a bit of Googling for fun. No, I will NEVER APOLOGIZE TO MONSANTO, but now I believe that NORAD-G is acting independently out of London Ont. Check out these odd comments: LET'S DUMP PESTICIDES in the Campbell River YOU DIRTY HIPPIES JUST HATE GOLF and my favorite: The Golf Industry Should Tell Anti-Golf Activists to Get OFF Our grASS and Roast In H#ll --Lena (aka Nancy Drew of the Tundra) |
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- Posted by marshallz10 z9-10 CA (My Page) on Tue, Jan 10, 12 at 11:02
| Those are great! Golfing fanatics united in common cause against dirty hippies and enviros. |
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- Posted by maddie_athome (My Page) on Tue, Jan 10, 12 at 11:05
| Agent Orange, DDT, Cyanide...you name it. He also runs a website called "Uncle Adolph". Go figure. I'm posting this here since it's related to the subject at hand -- Assange has some info on Monsanto: The US embassy in Paris advised Washington to start a military-style trade war against any European Union country which opposed genetically modified (GM) crops, newly released WikiLeaks cables show.
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Here is a link that might be useful: WikiLeaks Update.
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| I don't know that much about the science or politics of it all... I just know that I'd rather not ingest genetically altered foods that were grown using chemicals rooted in petroleum and other monstrosities of man's making for the sole purpose of profit. It's already been proven that nothing good came out of Agent Orange, DDT, and other chemicals mentioned. We're poisoning our world... and the shills keep squeezing out of the woodwork hoping to stop the protests that lessen profit. Whose profit, though? I hope the shills are getting paid what it's worth... As a footnote... I don't even like golf. It wouldn't bother me if every golf course were plowed under to grow organic foods for human and/or animal consumption. |
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| Sorry to bring up an old post, but everyone here does realize that Dr Huber has presented no evidence to back his claims, and his claims are a bit, well, far out. I keep seeing this story bounce all over the internet, and everyone keeps talking about these 'dire warnings', but without evidence, why should I care? I wouldn't take Monsanto on their word that glyphosate is safe, nor will I take this guy on his word that it is dangerous. I'll be more than happy to believe what he has to say when he produces some actual proof. In the mean time, this sounds like little more than the standard nonsense you see associated with genetic engineering, especially given that he's going around talking about it on websites instead of presenting his claims to the scientific community, which should have been his first step. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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- Posted by maddie_athome (My Page) on Tue, Jan 17, 12 at 6:33
| You link to the blog of Australia's number one GM shill to make your case? Yeah. Right. |
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| One might also point out that introducing something as biologically radical as artificial genetic manipulation, and on such a massive scale, requires an exceptional amount of proof that it doesn't harm the environment and farm ecology. In other words, when deregulation allows even more pollution to come pouring out of the coal fired plants, its up to somebody else to prove that this is a problem, not the power plant to prove that its safe. |
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- Posted by marshallz10 z9-10 CA (My Page) on Tue, Jan 17, 12 at 11:48
| Yes, we reject with prejudice, the Precautionary Principle. My,my...how many wars did we fight over in the old forum Saving Our Environment? |
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