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Posted by dublinbay z6 KS (My Page) on
Sat, Jan 19, 13 at 10:54

Not all pro-gun posters believe my claims that the NRA membership (unlike the NRA leadership) agrees with many of the President's gun control proposals and the attitudes of the general populace.

Shame on you for not believing me. I never lie on these matters!

The links below refer to reputable polls of on the topic. Browse at your leisure, but here is a good starting point on the attitudes towards gun control of the general public: Gun control poll photo gunpoll1-14-13-12_zpsdd5f84b2.png

See also:
Editorial based on a Republican Poll of NRA attitudes:
Even NRA members favor sensible gun control

Gun owners vs. the NRA: What the polling shows

NRA Gun Control Crusade Reflects Firearms Industry Financial Ties

NRA Positions and Obstructions:
Shooting Down False Arguments About Gun Control




Kate

This post was edited by dublinbay on Mon, Jan 21, 13 at 17:24


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While I'm at it, I can't resist posting this pic:

Guns vs aircraft photo gun_aircraft_zps7c722329.jpg

I think my argument on this point is clear?

Kate

This post was edited by dublinbay on Mon, Jan 21, 13 at 17:26


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Way to go, Kate! Your graphic is great but I would remind you that the white and black budgets for security and spying agencies might well bring your total to close to a trillion dollars.


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Hey, with all due respect, those survivalist, anti-gubmint types will be victorious when the revolution against the socialist-communist oppressors happens and they take back the country from all of those undesirables. Because, you know, those guys NEVER get shot, or if they do, at least they take out 20-30-40 heavily armed and trained professional combatants before they die, and as they're going down.

My God, don't you know anything? Haven't you ever seen a Rambo movie or something along those lines? It's gotta be true if Hollywood says so.


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At the link is a compilation of polling reports on the issue.

Its interesting to look at the questions and responses, and when it gets down to specifics, things like mandatory back ground checks for all purchases ranks pretty high.

I was waking up to the radio this morning, and they were interviewing someone who was knowledgeable on inner-city gun violence. He opined that cracking down on straw purchases and making the illegal sale of guns and ammunition far more serious than it is would likely go a long ways to help.

The comment that sticks in my mind is that the sentence for selling cocaine on a street corner is far more serious than the unlicensed selling of dozens of guns off the same corner.

Here is a link that might be useful: link


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  • Posted by ohiomom 3rdrockfromthesun (My Page) on
    Sat, Jan 19, 13 at 11:28

Deni ... right on!


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Thanks for the correction, marshall. An obscene amount of money to kill--no matter how you look at it.

denni--I sometimes honestly think that there are people out there who believe movies are "reality" (not fiction). And I sometimes wonder how much conspiracy theory-itus which plagues our nation got it impetus from movies in the tradition of "Apocalypse Now"--not so much the content, but the message of its title. People walking around in their Hollywood-invented bubbles!

Kate


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Is this the best hope? Pretty weak. It's tinkering around the edges, creating another TSA-type 'solution'. "Background" checks? How would you know who is an inappropriate buyer, much less if he's 'mentally ill'? ("He seemed fine when he walked in; don't know when he 'snapped'.)

Are police to 'watch and wait' to see if the guy with the gun in the mall has 'papers'?

You want to hunt? Buy an ordinary rifle or bow. You want to play bang-bang with your buddies on a range? Leave your guns AT the gun club. You want a handgun in your house, in your jacket or purse? What exactly is the real threat, and is this the best solution?


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An obscene amount of money to kill--no matter how you look at it.

Military Keynesianism -- because the only correct type of government stimulus is to the defense/intelligence industrial complex.

Edited to add:

The budget for nuclear warheads is hidden in the Department of Energy.

This post was edited by nancy_in_venice_ca on Sat, Jan 19, 13 at 12:23


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  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Sat, Jan 19, 13 at 12:39

The Black Books Marshall alluded to make the actual defense budget about double (maybe more by now) that reported to the public.

There is just too much money being handled by this country for those with motivations not in the best interests of everyone else to have stayed away from it. Yet, despite all the many years of scandals and exposes, hard reporting and published revelations we still have this idea ("Not in America!") that the same rubbish that goes on everywhere else is not present here.


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A few days ago the NYT published poll results re gun control. There are nice graphics at the link breaking down opinions based on gender, region, political party, gun ownership, city/suburbs/rural, and race (sort of - you'll see).

Americans' Views on Gun Control

Should gun control laws be made more strict, less strict, or kept as they are now? -- 54% more strict; 34% the same; 9% less strict


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Couple points that caught my eye on Nancy's poll.

53% want to ban semi-automatics.

And guns are most prevalent in the south and in the midwest (some of us were speculating on regional differences on another thread--there's the answer). Interesting that those are the areas where the Republican Party tends to be stronger also.

And, as a matter of fact, Republicans are about twice as likely to have guns in their houses as Democrats are. (Independents hover somewhere inbetween the two parties.)

There some other interesting comparisons on Nancy's poll also--very recent poll, by the way.

Kate


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Did anyone read about the armed guard who left his handgun in the bathroom of the school? Slippery slope...


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Most of those I believe, and I said so. The one I don't believe and there's no way you'll ever convince me is the stat on the ban of semi auto weapons. That would ban 90% of all firearms, and there's non way that pro gun people would ever vote for it, WHETHER OR NOT they're NRA members. Of course, that brings into question the rest of the survey.

On the same question on Nancy's poll, 42% say they're a gun household, while 55% say they're not. But then directy below that, the totals for no guns, 64% is no guns, while 32% isn't. It would seem to me those numbers should be the same, just reversed. Either way, something is skewed some place.


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Bill, you are misreading that chart.

What it says is that 42% of gun-owning households favor the semi-automatic ban, and 55% of gun-owning household do not favor the semi-automatic ban.

Likewise, the next category should be read as follows:
64% of no-gun households favor the semi-automatic ban, and 32% of no-gun households do not favor the semi-automatic ban.

If you mix all the respondants back together (rather than dividing them into gun-owning and no-gun households), then you get the figures of 53% of ALL respondants favored banning semi-automatics, and 44% of ALL respondants did not favor the semi-automatic ban.

Read correctly, there is nothing questionable about the information on Nancy's chart.

Kate


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No response?

Kate


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Bill doesn't avoid questions like many conservatives here do (at least from what I've seen). The guy is probably tiling someone's house. I just wish it were mine :-)


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