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Cyberwarrior for Obama Project

Posted by nikoleta (My Page) on
Wed, Feb 13, 13 at 10:33

Canada Free Press interviewed someone claiming to have "inside information" on a coordinated plan that would pay individuals slightly more than minimum wage, to "infiltrate" online political forums. The date these paid "infiltrators" would begin their new jobs was said to be two days after the inauguration. I'm guessing the Hot Topics forum could be a likely destination for some of these minimum wage workers, so we might want to be alert to that possibility. I was thinking some of our current posters might be interested in this group, so here's more on what they are supposed to do, for anyone who might be interested. It's not clear if one could be paid for posting on a forum one already belongs to, but it might be worth looking into.

FTA: " First of all, two days after the inauguration, at exactly 7:00 a.m. on January 23, something called “the Cyber-Warriors for Obama Project” was activated. I heard about this the week after the election, but only saw a hardcopy draft in late December."

Here is a link that might be useful: Cyberwarrior Project


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Well, I read a similar claim about paid conservative forum infiltrators a month or so ago, and don't find any of it credible.

During the 2008 Israeli invasion of Gaza, this forum did witness some brand new members who seemed to fit the profile of paid / professional posters.


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  • Posted by ohiomom 3rdrockfromthesun (My Page) on
    Wed, Feb 13, 13 at 10:44

....not to mention after the "slaughter" of the children, this forum filled with the "cold dead hands" guys with innocuous looking weapons made to look like "toy" guns who assured us that guns are harmless.


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Is that an affiliate of "The Onion"?

Quote:" Now listen to what I am telling you. This is a continuing operation that involves many of the same people on both sides of the aisle in Washington. This is one of the reasons why no one wants to talk about Obama's past. He is the product of a continuing intelligence operation, put in power to oversee the dismantling of the U.S., with the economy being the lynchpin of our destruction. Obama, Jarrett, and the Clintons are in constant contact with all high level operatives inside the DHS. Perhaps not directly in all cases but through their contacts. They are working together to see to it that the U.S. economy is brought down, robbing the people of their wealth and then blaming partisan politics for the crash." (End Quote, but plenty more like this in the article!)


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This sort of sorties-for-the-cause have been around the web for a long time. During political seasons, true believers relish the job of promoting their candidate or cause. Ron Paul became a cult figure with thousands of mostly young supporters filling the web with their ardor and support.


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Paid astroturfers on chat boards have been around for well over a decade.

Andura Smetacek is the most famous.


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You realize that Canada Free Press is what happens when the National Enquirer employs a staff of paranoid schizophrenics, right?


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  • Posted by ohiomom 3rdrockfromthesun (My Page) on
    Wed, Feb 13, 13 at 11:00

Oh don't ruin the fun, this is about that

"Kenyanmuslimcommunistsocialistfascistdictator"

bringing the Christian nation to it's knees and installing sharia (sp?) law in the land.

Oh and by the way this is no different than "secret shoppers" if you want to make a few extra bucks to supplement that minimum wage job market that we must maintain at all cost.


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You guys obviously haven't read the article at the link...a couple of paranoid loonies in an "interview" situation. I recommend you read it for a good laugh!


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Good one, ham!

Kate


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Conspiracy theorists are a huge yawn.


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This is good:

Let me spell it out for you, and this is the crux of everything. We have Obama (or whatever his real name is) in the Oval Office.

Wait, what?

because "Barack Hussein Obama" was the FAKE name he was given in order to infiltrate US politics?

Didn't they figure maybe "David Brown" would go over a lot better if they were trying to make him just an average American Joe?


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Through certain contacts in high places (don't ask!), I managed to get a pic of the guy being interviewed in that story...


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Right. Canada Free Press is not a reliable source. And paid astroturfers are already on chat boards. I have many stories about chemical company shills spreading lies on the internets, as well as PR firms for the Big 3 Automakers and what they used to spread.

Andura Smetacek, Tallbloke. Anthony Watts, Alex Avery, too many to count against Tyrone Hayes...the list is very long.


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Like we can't tell who's a paid fake... geez!


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Like we can't tell who's a paid fake... geez!

The tactic is to continue to spread disinformation so the gullible rubes pick it up and spread it, and eventually it becomes a common talking point then "conventional wisdom". We just had someone on this board justify it ('hey, it's out there and people are saying it'). That is how it is done.

That's how it works: lather, rinse, repeat so the gullible rubes become Message Force Multipliers. You see it here daily amongst the usual suspects. Drill baby drill. It's snowing, so much for "global warming" lol. And so on.


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"Well, I read a similar claim about paid conservative forum infiltrators a month or so ago, and don't find any of it credible."

Why not? It wouldn't surprise me in the least, although I had not heard that report. Do you have a link where we can read about it?

It makes sense to me both parties would employ "cyberwarriors," as a simple way of helping promote their preferred point of view. What party wouldn't see value in arming enthusiastic paid recruits with talking points? They might even come with instructions to aggressively challenge or attempt to insult all "indigenous" posters with whom they disagree Now that I think of it, we've seen a bit of that here recently.

In any event, I'm confident the use of cyberwarriors is something neither party would overlook, and have no reason to believe either party isn't doing everything it can think of to help reach people wherever they are, including on forums like this one.


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The Canada Free Press is a serious wing nut site.

The full title alone should tip you off.......

The Canada Free Press......because without America there is no free world.

What does that even mean?


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The Canada Free Press is a serious wing nut site.

The full title alone should tip you off.......

The Canada Free Press......because without America there is no free world.

What does that even mean?


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Sorry, I really don't know why these duplicate posts are happening.....something about " go back" or "tabs" with my tablet. I'll figure it out sooner or later.....


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In any event, I'm confident the use of cyberwarriors is something neither party would overlook,

It's mainly a corporate, PR-lobbying firm, and think-tank thing.

If you need 'parties' as the main character for your preferred narrative/happiness maintenance, I guess that's fine too.


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Ok, found it. The thing reads like a film noire script.

Reeks of truthiness.

Here is a link that might be useful: here ya go, Nik.


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Wow that's a whole lotta whack sites including this one to infiltrate. LOL
I have pod I'd like to put under some of your beds though!


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I first heard of these type of paid shills on an AOL message board--when AOL's power as a dial provider was just beginning to wane--called This and That Too. It was during the lead up to the Bush v Gore election.

Sounded silly to me then, and the idea hasn't improved on me since. Not that I find it unbelievable it occurs, just that it strikes me as a reductio de absurdum of Orwellian language tinkering. I think most--or at least enough-- people are smarter than to fall for anything so foolish.

Hard to believe this is still actually news a decade and a half since then too.


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I can almost believe it. I certainly know we had many gun nuts who suddenly appeared here after Newtown. They totally hogged the forum, and most left as suddenly as they appeared never to be heard of again. I guess they fulfilled their mission and moved on with orders from their GOD, the NRA to other forums. A few remain. Hopefully they'll get bored and go since they changed no one's mind, only reinforced our beliefs.


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I can almost believe it. I certainly know we had many gun nuts who suddenly appeared here after Newtown. They totally hogged the forum, and most left as suddenly as they appeared never to be heard of again.

Astroturf. Some call them 'spam bots'.

Sometimes college students, other times sockpuppets from a PR-lobbying firm. Some times they get rubes to do it for free (message force multipliers).


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  • Posted by ohiomom 3rdrockfromthesun (My Page) on
    Wed, Feb 13, 13 at 15:36

So from all the above posts, we can come to the "logical" conclusion that this is not some grand conspiracy by the Obama administration but "business as usual".


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As I see it, only one or two remain.


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So from all the above posts, we can come to the "logical" conclusion that this is not some grand conspiracy by the Obama administration but "business as usual".

Only if you need to believe the Canada Free Press. Few need to believe what they print.


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Thanks for the link, David. There was nothing in the (supposed) paid poster's article that sounded implausible to me. I thought it was very interesting. By googling his term "meme patrol" I was treated to lots of links with suggestions on how to counter specific memes. Somebody is putting that information out

The guy's instructions to attack certain posters seemed plausible as well. Over the years, we've been joined by new posters who seem determined to give special "attention" to posters from one side or the other. They tend to be less conversational, and more confrontational.They stick around for a while, and then they're gone. No tinfoil hat required to pick up on that pattern.

I think it's amusing that some posters agree this stuff has been around for a long time, while others attack Canada Free Press for claiming the White House is doing it, too. Seriously, why wouldn't a White House that has mastered the art of community organizing not be interested in influencing online communities and political forums?

If *I* were in charge of promoting points of view for the White House, increased forum participation and communication would be high on my to do list.

Here's an older link I came across discussing forum "jobs."

Here is a link that might be useful: source


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What does WND say about it Nik?


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I also read the link and found nothing that sounded credible to me-why the flickering halogen(halogen??) light, Why the crumbling building and ratty office? Why OLD beat up computers? Isnt time money? Why are these weird people working from an office instead of their home. Surely in the computer world you can move without actually 'moving'. Children know how to do that sort of thing. Just recently here on Hot topics someone told another poster to ask a kid how to present themselves as someone else with a different address. I am with David-it is the script for a BAD film Noir. That doesnt mean that I dont believe that people get paid to direct discussions but I dont believe this particular person does.


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"What does WND say about it Nik?"

No idea, but would you get back to me when you find out?

"Why are these weird people working from an office instead of their home?"

I wondered about that myself. But I have no idea how paid posting is set up. Maybe somebody here does. Do you know if paid posting is always done from home? Maybe new employees are on probation or in training in a facility before they're permitted to work unsupervised?

In any event, there ought to be pay stubs. Assuming employer and employees are playing by the rules, a pay stub could sort out who is being paid and by whom. Wonder how long it will take for a pay stub to surface.


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I know someone third hand who used to do telemarketing and at times astroturfing via phones and emails on behalf of specific (but un-named customers). The woman apparently got a kick out of doing the astroturfing which paid well enough and didn't require cold calls to wary consumers.


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I know someone third hand who used to do telemarketing and at times astroturfing via phones and emails on behalf of specific (but un-named customers). The woman apparently got a kick out of doing the astroturfing which paid well enough and didn't require cold calls to wary consumers.


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