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Oil Imports...

Posted by fouquieria 10b (My Page) on
Fri, Feb 8, 13 at 12:42

...have plunged to the lowest level since the Clinton years (1997). Imports have shrunk, exports have expanded. Hopefully these are all good signs.


-Ron-


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If the talking point 'energy independence' is based in reality, we don't need any exports, as we are a net importer. Regardless of trade, our fracking is now the second-largest contributor to GHG emissions, second only to power plants. Our fake 'energy independence' comes at a very high price.


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This help shrink the trade deficit. What is still imported is sold at the pumps for a higher price. This way the cheaper domestic oil can be exported for a higher price.

"the United States trade deficit shrank in December to its narrowest in nearly three years, the Commerce Department said on Friday, and the numbers suggested that the economy did much better in the fourth quarter than initially estimated.

The country's trade gap narrowed to $38.5 billion during 'he month, the department said. Analysts polled by Reuters had expected a deficit of $46 billion.

The data suggest that the government could revise upward its advance reading for fourth-quarter gross domestic product, which showed that the economy contracted at a 0.1 percent annual rate, in part because of a decline in inflation-adjusted exports. The government released its estimate for fourth-quarter G.D.P. before the December trade data was available."

Don't see a link Look it up there are multiple stories on it
I bet there are even ones geared to support your position no matter what it is!


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I read that we're exporting record amounts of coal, now that the glut of natural gas makes it the cheaper alternative for power generation here at home.

And we're driving down the world price of coal as we do it.


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The wells we are drilling now won't last long, and we'll be cutting coal exports soon enough.

Unless somehow our leaders wake up and start funding efficiencies and all the rest to wean us off cheap energy.


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If the talking point 'energy independence' is based in reality, we don't need any exports, as we are a net importer.

Regardless of trade, our fracking is now the second-largest contributor to GHG emissions, second only to power plants.

Our fake 'energy independence' comes at a very high price.

Could you clarify these statements?
How does the process of fracking for natural gas a major contributor to green house gas emissions?
Natural gas fired turbine lectrice power plants contribute LESS to GHG emissions than coal fired plants.
Automobiles with electric motors are far more efficient than cars with internal combustion gasoline engines and contribute less to GHG.
It looks like the most sensible energy strategy for the United States is to continue to frack for natural gas, build turbine power plants to change that into electricity, and gradually switch over to electric powered autos as the technology for them improves and prices drop.
We should also revist a large infrastructure investment in a smart grid which will encourage millions to conserve energy and to add power from their own property via /solar/wind /geothermal to the grid.
There is a way forward without focusing on dirty clean coal and Canadian tar sand oil sludge.


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We should also revist a large infrastructure investment in a smart grid which will encourage millions to conserve energy and to add power from their own property via /solar/wind /geothermal to the grid.

Here! Here!

I've read where certain quarters would like to do this in the northeast now that so much of the old power grid was destroyed by Sandy.

-Ron-


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I'll second that... we really do need to move into the reality of global warming and clean, efficient power from the sun and wind. I'm sure there's a way to score huge profit from it somehow...


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The somehow is from having everyone contribute to their own power needs and to the grid.
The smart grid would make that feasible, but that was shot down when President Obama championed it in the 2009 Stimulus package.
That would have already created thousands of jobs and set us on the road to a smart grid with decentralized power and digital power management.
Imagine having control of energy consumption in your home digitally and from remote locations via the internet. Imagine having solar, geothermal or wind systems generating your own power and selling off any excess to the power companies. Imagine having an electric auto for commuting and never having to fill it at the gas station.

We have Smart Grid technology and have had it for a long time, but the Stupid party wanted to take the low road in 2009 and cling to oil and coal. Their fuel is their Right Wing ideology, big power companies and oil and gas interests, and their often inexplicable hatred of President Obama.
That is why they earned that nickname from Jindal - Stupid, really frickin' stupid.


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How does the process of fracking for natural gas a major contributor to green house gas emissions?

Fugitive methane emissions from drilling leakage, pipe leakage and gas field flaring.


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Oops, somebody's been listening to that Matt Damon!


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Oops, somebody's been listening to that Matt Damon!

Oops! Somebody is making it up! Oops! Somebody can't address the facts given and is having a sad!


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Facts are often confusing...

I think Heri nailed it quite well. And it's not just the leakage and flaring from gas extraction... it's what the process does to the land.

Raping the earth for fossil fuels is so yesterday.


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The problem with the Smart Grid is that public utilities finance their operations from revenues collected from selling power/water/waste disposal/information movement.

Efficiency gains mean less revenue. Until we fix that, not much movement will happen. Boulder, Colo is sick of the games their electricity provider is playing, trying to prevent SG implementation, so they will vote soon on whether to take over electricity provision.


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Heri posted: We have Smart Grid technology and have had it for a long time, but the Stupid party wanted to take the low road in 2009 and cling to oil and coal.

As President, I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear power. Senator Barack Obama.

I agree with Heri, how stupid of him and his party.

Four years later.....listen in to the party of stupid.

We�re offering a better path, a future where we keep investing in wind and solar andclean coal; where farmers and scientists harness new biofuels to power our cars and trucks; where construction workers build homes and factories that waste less energy; where � where we develop a hundred year supply of natural gas that�s right beneath our feet.

despite a concrete acknowledgement two minutes later that "climate change is not a hoax" and "droughts and floods and wildfires are not a joke," the president still brags of opening "millions of new acres for oil and gas exploration in the last three years"�and then he promises to open more. And, yes, there is still a reference to the fool�s anthracite, "clean coal," this time incongruously grouped with "wind and solar." But notice what is not there�not in this section, not in the paragraph about the climate, not anywhere in the entire 38-minute speech.

Stupid party.


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Stupid party.

Drill, baby, drill as a war cry.

The italics made me LOLz!!!!!!


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few words for you all on energy.
1.smart grid meters have been shown to be unreliable and easily hacked and tampered with.
2.renewable every wind solar are intermittent and there is no current technology except in a few exception cases that can store excess energy to be used when the sun is down and wind is not blowing. there are is only one energy storage facility in USA that am aware of but there may be others. Either way energy storage currently only a very large dam In west Virgina i think that pump water behind a the dam storing energy as future hydro electric.
3. even if you get rid carbon based fuels, carbon will still be needed as lubricants. which a larger part of the market then fuel.


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