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| We had temps averaging 18 degrees above normal this weekend, last week we had to cut the grass twice, something I never have to start until usually the second or even third week in May.
I see where places in the northeast coast is experiencing the S word, that is going to do a lot of damage to a lot of beloved gardens I would think. How about your neck of the woods, typical or atypical weather this spring? -----------------------------------------------------------
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- Posted by oscarthecat z7MD (My Page) on Mon, Apr 23, 12 at 12:03
| Cold here in Baltimore County. Noon and only 45*. |
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| Spring came early to Alabama, following a mild winter. But it has really cooled off again for a few weeks and I am planning to relish every minute of it. The sweltering, oppressive summer will be here before long. |
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| Before the self appointed 'corrections dept'. gleefully run in , "coast" should not have been part of that sentence. I think from now on though, I shall allow them to do that job, they do enjoy it so much. |
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| 39 here this morning and windy - felt really cold for a change. Now up to 51, but still very chilly. All my sympathies to those getting snow today! |
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| It was warm here mid-March. Then cold. Then warm. It snowed twice. Typical Wisconsin weather. But yeah, spring is a month early. Ice-out by mid-March: unheard of. You're right about the other thing, Myl. |
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- Posted by duluthinbloomz4 zone 4a (My Page) on Mon, Apr 23, 12 at 12:28
| Typical for here. Not really "warm" here in March judging by the lack of convertibles with the tops down. Two feet of new snow in March which didn't last long, but the AM temps still hover in the 30's and we get occasional flurries. Big rain, snow, wind event last week - my neighbor lost a mammoth old spruce and it spanned her yard and quite far down into mine. I thought my old and glorious Mandarin Lights azalea would be crushed, but it survived intact. I keep looking at my Norways and think maybe it's time to call in the tree guys. |
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| Climate change is here for good. All our meteorologists are astounded by our weather in PA. Daughter ran the Boston Marathon and finished a week ago. It was 90. Three days before that we were siting in down coats watching her son run in sleet. Saturday at the dog park it was 80, right now it's 39. We have our garden planted and I had bought annuals Sat which are now in the house waiting to it warms up. Last month in March I bought out all my house plants and they're still there. No snow all the mild winter EXCEPT for the 7 inches in October which ruined all our trees with leaves on them. Today the exact thing is happening in west PA> ..Who doesn't believe in climate change YET?? Every week there is a weather disaster. |
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| March was wonderfully warm here,very unusual weather. April has been more "seasonal" but today it's awful! Cold , damp, and snow!!! This too shall pass :) |
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| Temperatures here are up and down, frost and them warm... they make no sense, and are not normal for this time of year. I thought there was a thread missing... interesting. Well, these things do happen from time to time. |
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| I hadn't noticed a thread missing. Must have been one that I had put on my "scroll on by" list.... |
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| 81 degrees a few days ago ... now it is very windy, but mostly sunny with temps in the 40's. The "s" word is east of me. Was watching the local fox news station this morn and the "weather guy" said snow would be "west" of us in Ashtabula county. For the non-Ohioans, Ashtabula county is EAST of Cleveland. |
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| That's about all it was worth, Chase. |
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- Posted by circuspeanut 5 (My Page) on Mon, Apr 23, 12 at 13:15
| I'm in Michigan at the moment. Very typical, 50's, low 60's and windy, cool to cold nights still. |
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- Posted by brushworks Zone5-Ohio (My Page) on Mon, Apr 23, 12 at 13:22
| Hahaha...Mom, He ALWAYS gets the direction wrong! gust of 60mph here, mid 40's. It's quite a change from the high 80's we had weeks ago. |
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| Does he Brush ? I do not watch the morning news, because there is so much fluff instead of news, was trying to catch the weather report ... I could not believe he said "west". SMH Glad I am not driving cross town today :) |
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| Near record/record high temps. |
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| My roses are bloomed 3 to 4 weeks ahead of time. Generally Rosa lax blooms first followed by Zephrin Drouhn & Stanwell Perpetual. Pink Simplicity & Senior Prom moderns bloomed first as well as Pat Austin. The Planned June celebrations of Roses will find pretty empty gardens as so many are either already bloomed & not in sequence either. Moderns blooming at the same time as the briar roses & Rosa Carolina is a bit wild. I already have a tan and I'm not trying to tan. Today is wet & raw what I'm used to for late april. |
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| I don't think it's big news to anyone (or shouldn't be) that this is a very atypical year in weather. The "summer in March" actually seems to have freaked out a lot of the professional meterology community. We had late May weather in March, followed by typical late March/early April weather. Actually, since the March heatwave broke, I suspect our April weather will come in about "normal" or perhaps slightly above normal, not due to any significant warm days, but because, while cold and often frosty, or lows actually weren't AS cold as they often are, falling only into the mid to upper 20s in most regions. However, on the heels of extraordinary warmth, the 20's were enough to cause serious problems for agriculture. It has done a lot of damage to commercial fruit crops here in Michigan. Two of our most important crops, tart cherries and wine/juice grapes, are estimated to have suffered losses of 90 to 96%. Luckily, so far, the apple crop SEEMS to be OK, at least on the Eastern side of the state. I'm afraid we need to get used to a world like this. One reason why diversity is so important, IMHO, in agriculture. Putting all of our eggs in too few baskets is asking for trouble. I believe its important to seek out new and alternate crops that might fare better with extremes of climate. Personally, I'm trialing various things such as honeyberry, seaberry, goumi, autumn olive, Prinsepia, buffalo berry, black currants, Cornelian cherry, all of which are good alternatives to more traditional fruit crops and which all are a bit more rugged than some traditional crops such as strawberries, cherries, or peaches. |
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- Posted by brushworks Zone5-Ohio (My Page) on Mon, Apr 23, 12 at 14:01
| Mom, Yes..lots of fluff. Miss Missouri.:) |
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| Flew back to NC Sunday (15th) after attending my son's wedding in Santa Barbara, Ca. with all the extended family. I let myself get excited by all the agriculture there. Then two days of mowing and hoeing the garden with my shirt off was all it took to make me forget - I never plant tomatoes or peppers until Mothers Day. So I planted them Wednesday. They were secure and happy in their flats under the lights. What have I done? Forecasters are calling for 32 degrees tonight. I also seeded Okra, Corn and bush Beans. At least. seeds below ground aren't in danger. Nor are the Broccoli or Collards. It still sucks; I should/do know better. |
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| I bought 2 tomato plants from Lowes on April 1st and they are now blooming. 49F here right now and expected to drop to 38F tonite. Overall it's been warmer than normal since early March. Still have "my" tomato & melon seedlings inside except for a few young tomatoes planted outside last week whist in the 80s. No frost expected but did get a nice soaking 1.75" rain over the past 24 hours. Picking asparagus and strawberries now, radishes and lettuce later this week. Come on May! |
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- Posted by woodnymph2 (My Page) on Mon, Apr 23, 12 at 15:48
| An extremely warm January, February, and March here in Charleston, SC brought out all the spring flowers 6 weeks early. We put away our winter clothes and brought out the sandals and shorts. April, in contrast, has been cool. Today, it is downright cold and I had to turn the heat back on.Temps in 40's at night, yet the roses are still blooming madly.... |
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| Woodstove fire going like mid winter after no heat in the house for a month. I foolishly bought annuals on the weekend but have them in the house now. It's not to freeze but I'm guessing impatiens and nicotiana don't like 38 degree temps. .. My dear cat birds have returned and they are a week or two early. My friend and I feed them and I called her to ask if hers were here too and they are. Mine is fluffed up on the feeder and I took him some grapes. We know the same ones come to our yards because she has raisins on her porch and they go there immediately. Mine whistle for the dogs as I do. |
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| Reading this I see that cold weather is headed this way. The rain just finished, it seems. Been mild all day. Steve, what were you thinking? I guess you'll have to put blankets over them. Dennis, autumn olive is a tough adaptable plant, like all invasives. It makes fruit very reliably here with no attention whatsoever. |
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| Steve, how are you planning to protect them? I remember one year being caught by a late freeze. Fortunately the garden was small and I was able to cover everything. We set record highs for March. Tonight should be a record low at 45. The basil may not like it, but the tomatoes and peppers should be fine. By Wednesday it's back to highs in the 80s and more humidity. |
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- Posted by tishtoshnm 6/NM (My Page) on Mon, Apr 23, 12 at 16:37
| It is warm for us now, but we missed out on the record March warmth. Last week it went as low as 24, but my crabapple blooms seemed to make it through just fine and the tomatoes that were in wall-o-waters did great as well. Our last frost date is normally May 15th so I am a bit wary but anything that has gone out, has done so with protection and any early seeding is just an experiment and can be easily replaced. The boiler is off now and the bugs are definitely out, thankfully the lizards are too. |
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- Posted by nancy_in_venice_ca SS24 z10 CA (My Page) on Mon, Apr 23, 12 at 16:51
| I think it was warm inland, but near the coast it was overcast and cool (mid-low 60s) for both Saturday and Sunday. It must have been warmer inland on Saturday, because there was a long line of cars leaving the beach a little before 6PM. Nothing like that on Sunday, but the L.A. Times annual book fair may have lured some potential beach goers. Cool temperatures through the week, and maybe 'normal' temperatures next weekend - low 70s, Fine weather for doing heavier physical work in the garden. |
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| The Rosa Alba and Rubra shrubs are blooming, but getting a little frost bitten by the chilly winds. Therese Bugnet has a few blooms beginning to open, and Quadra has opened some lovely and large quartered blooms, but that one sits beside the greenhouse, so it gets a little more warmth and wind protection, I think. Two or three beautiful Rainbow Knock Out roses are blooming. Purple Alliums are beginning to pop open, wild and hybrid Columbine are in bloom, and Iris of all heights and colors are opening. The Creeping Phlox, in both hot pink and lavender, is about at its midway point, and the Peony Trees have already shed the petals on their first flowers, but there are more buds. I was going to do some work out there today, but the winds have picked up and the temperature has dropped quite a bit. A cold front pushing the earlier warm front, so we're most likely looking at incoming storms or rain. I haven't looked at local Doppler yet, so I really couldn't say. So many roses are budded, though! I can't wait to see everything open! |
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| Have you ever tried to pin down floating row covers by yourself in a 20mph wind on a 30 x 60 ft. area? I gave up. More danger to the plants from me trampling them. If the wind persists, frost damage will be negligible. Warmer days & nights in the future. I give most of my produce away anyway - it is a hobby. Local stores still sell plants, but not the open pollinated heirlooms I start indoors. |
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| 48 here this am. Got about two inches of rain total, and it came generally slowly, so very, very good and greatly needed. My dry-land crops will be off to a good start. |
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| When I was out on Lake George the other day, it was brutally cold and very windy. The spray felt like ice water. This morning I took a boat ride on The Great Sacandaga. It was pretty cold, but I had the lake to myself. Not another boat for miles. We're supposed to have below freezing night time temps in much of the North Country. |
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| The big issue here is the very early, very rapid snow melt, which then means the forest dries out much faster. I've had fire trucks going by the house every three days, fighting small brush fires that got out of hand. In April, thats unheard of. July, before the rains start, is the usual. as an aside, there is now a push to raise the mil levy for the fire district, continue the shift from a largely volunteer to professional dept, I have the mail in ballot. It will fail. In this county, they wouldn't raise their taxes if their houses were burning down. |
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| Early snow melt jump-started our fire season, too. Our fire crews are always ready to rock and roll. It's amazing how many people are under the false impression that spring is WET in the forest. And what's with this garbage burning? As a Fire Warden, it make me crazy :0 |
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It got so cold here the Robin insulated her nest. I thought this was funny. I guess it really was cold last night. |
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| 10 centimeters of snow on the ground.....and this weekend we put the boats in the water....weird, weird, weird. |
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| Saturday I was at the doggie park in shorts and tee in 80 degree temps. Sunday I walked the dogs in a down coat in the rain at 40 degrees. We have our vegetable garden planted including 15 tomato plants. I have delicate annuals inside now. |
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| crazy early for toms in z5. Global warming or no. |
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| Absolutely... I don't think anyone can say with accuracy that our weather and climate patterns haven't been "off"... very off... and most especially this year, and for this time of year. I had no choice but to bring everything potted outside early this year as it was already breaking what little dormancy it got. And now, the weather is so up and down... I can't help but notice things slightly out of sync... it's not a normal year, and was not a normal winter. Not wanting to jump the gun, I have not begun a lot of my veggies yet, planted from seed. |
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| Pouring here; great stuff. Our spring started early, but temps are normal for this time of year, freezing or near to it at night, 50's or 60's by day. We have gone warmer by half a zone, which is just fine with everyone I know around here. :-) |
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| Despite the very warm spells unusually early, peas that I planted before april fool's day as usual have done poorly. |
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| I just hope what got hit with early warmth, sprouted and bloomed, and then lost its leaves due to frosts makes a comeback. Our Paw Paw tree looks very bad, and our Crepe Myrtles look quite dead. |
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| Have you had fruit off the paw-paw ever? |
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- Posted by sleeplessinftwayne z4-5 IND (My Page) on Thu, Apr 26, 12 at 15:35
| Since our last frost date is May 15, I won't rush the season too much. After all, the earth did get a slight jolt from the Japanese Earthquake and there is a slight change in ocean currents which could easily account for bumps in the weather patterns. It takes a long time to overcome the inertia of all that water. That water affects the wind patterns too. What would be surprising would be if there was no affect at all. The timing seems fairly reasonable. It will likely take a few years to establish new patterns. Hopefully they will not be severe, but we will have some changes. I remember springs when trees had fully leafed out and were then badly damaged or killed with the weight of the snow on the leaf cover by a fully "in season" snow storm on May 15. The weather here is now well within normal patterns. Puxatawny Phil, the weather prognosticating groundhog only has a record of being right only 39% of the time. He was only partly right this time. I am sorry for the food producers who may have been hurt by the warm spell. A lot of trees that flower in the spring may have lost blossoms before fruit could be set. A lot of seed planted too soon will have rotted this year but spring has always been chancy for farmers and gardeners. At least I got a head start on cleaning up the yard. I expect food bills to rise as a result. |
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- Posted by woodnymph2 (My Page) on Thu, Apr 26, 12 at 15:44
| I never thought about the Japanese earthquakes and the changes in ocean currents being one cause of the bizarre weather, but it does make sense. What does a paw-paw tree look like? I don't think I've ever seen one. |
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| Actually, PNBrown, it DID produce two or three nice looking fruits last year, but something got them before we did. Apparently, and trees are not my area of specialty, but both male and female trees are needed to produce fruit from the Paw Paw. There are other trees in town and within a 5 mile radius, so it's not an impossibility for this lone tree to fruit. I've heard the fruits are quite tasty, but I've never had one. The frost cut-off date for our area is usually around May 10th or 15th, so this is a very unusual year. We had several summer-like days/weeks in March, and everything came out of dormancy. Buds formed, and the sturdier of plants kept growing through the frosts and chilly weather that followed. They showed burned tips, but survived. But the Paw Paw and all of my Crepe Myrtles lost leaves and buds, and now the Crepe Myrtle looks quite dead. I just have to wait and see if it will produce a new array of buds. Now, the Oaks are running on a timed schedule, it seems. They are just now beginning to bud and show tiny, baby leaves. It also seems to depend on where the plant is placed... where it's offered some protection from winds, or is against a light colored building, it seems able to escape the issues of frost. I do, however, have a potted Kiwi vine that's supposed to be hardy to this area, and a potted Wisteria also hardy to this zone, both of which are not looking good following the frosts we had after the weird and warm March. Both pots were placed against the east side of a protective building, so they should not have been overly bothered by the cold. All the roses are budded, and the more protected and hardy types have been blooming already. My Star Magnolia in the yard never bloomed, but the ones I have in pots did... go figure. The Peony Trees are just gorgeous, and a lot of other bulbs, later types, and other perennials are beginning their normal blooming. My partner saw the bare Crepe Myrtle today and announced everything needs water, when I already know the ground is plenty moist where it needs to be. It was the cold that killed the buds... not dry ground. (Sigh) It's a constant battle... |
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- Posted by woodnymph2 (My Page) on Fri, Apr 27, 12 at 15:20
| Crape myrtles flourish in my part of the world. Actually, they prefer drier conditions to wet. |
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| Okay, the roller coaster continues. Freeze warning tonight. Last month , six weeks ago, the temps were like June...shorts and tee weather. Today windy and cold with temps 20 degrees below average. Veggie garden is all planted. Nothing to be done about it. When daughter ran the Boston Marathon last week it was 35 degrees warmer than average at 90. I pity farmers and fruit growers. |
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- Posted by sleeplessinftwayne z4-5 IND (My Page) on Fri, Apr 27, 12 at 16:19
| There is supposed to be a Paw-paw that is hardy to zone 5 but most are too fragile to survive or thrive. A Paw-paw, which fruited heavily, grew very well in my Aunt's zone 6 yard and was admired by neighbors who couldn't get them to survive let alone fruit. I don't remember a second tree but maybe there was one. That was a long time ago. The flavor is somewhere between a sweet apple and a banana. The texture is like a slightly over ripe banana. Too sweet for my taste. What I most strongly remember was all the bees and yellow jackets that swarmed the tree when it was blooming or in fruit. |
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| Jodi, I just remembered to tell you this--when you do get fruit on your pawpaw, be a little cautious when you first try it. My Grandma dearly loved the stuff, but had a horrible allergy to it,sadly. She said she used to run off, pick and eat some, then hide out so GGM wouldn't see her swollen face... I'd like to try it myself--carefully! |
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| I do have a slight allergy to Honeydew Melon, and a very slight one to unripe, greener bananas, but that's it in the food department. Tomatoes that are more acidic bother me a bit, but not when cooked. I will remember to carefully try a Paw Paw, should it produce this season. Thanks! I realize that Crepe Myrtles don't require drowning... no plant does... especially at this time of year, in this zone. My issue is with my partner who wants to jump the gun on everything, and insists that every form of wilt or burn can be solved with a dousing of water. It's an uphill battle to keep her occupied elsewhere, so I can do my job the right way! :-) Not 5 seconds ago, she was insisting, as she has been since early March, that we need to get going on cuttings. No, we do not. Not only is it too cold and too early, it's also too much. I'd like to get rid of some standing stock before we begin to make more work... that I'll end up doing myself, anyway. I'm one person, and not even a whole person. She sometimes forgets that I know what I'm doing, while she's all over the place with a million irons in every fire... and that there's a time and season for everything. That time is not now. We don't have a heated greenhouse or cold frame.
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| On our way south to the Big City we noticed a lot of trillium in bloom all along the road--early; and beautiful, as always in the spring up here in the frozen tundra. The morels are blooming early, too. Wonderful, but lots of competition out there! |
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| My yard looks like a cemetery with ghosts wandering thru. I have many hanging baskets and have planted some of them already , so there are lots of sheets blowing in the misty night. Still in the 40's though. |
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| I read that paw-paw fruit is one of those things that you love or hate. Apparently squirrels are firmly all in the love 'em camp. |
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| That's my point, Lily... by normal conditions, we'd be looking at a frost cut-off date that comes later... sometime around May 10th or 15th... so this early warm weather we got was not natural by any standard. We could still get some heavy frosts and chill temperatures. I know everyone is eager to plant, eager to move into spring... but I think it's wise to play by certain rules... and half of gardening is patience, after all! If anything, we're a bit ahead of the game, so it could be considered less work for later! I'm just hopeful that the Crepes survive and push new buds, and that the Paw Paw and Kiwi vine can recover. Trillium here has been blooming for a bit... I found a white colored one with purple edging among the patch of purples we have... it's very unusual and lovely... not something we planted, but rather a fluke of nature. Wild Asparagus is coming up along the roadsides, too... time to go hunting for that! |
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| After some chilly (boiler came on) days/nights we are supposed to head for the high 70's this coming week. Notice quite a few trees/plants that look like they have "freezer burn" from the early warmth and then seasonal cool. Our frost free date is also May 15th and that is when I will put my tomatoes/herbs outside on the roof ... the lettuce and spinach are doing well, never got the peas planted. |
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| According to the long range forecast here May will be normal or warmer, with no nights below 50F. I'll take a chance and put out my melon seedlings, sweet potatoes, cukes, etc this week. Have already set a few pea sized tomatoes which should ripen up by mid June, that's almost 3 weeks early for picking if the temps hold up. |
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| In my case, the short bout of summer we had in March forced me to move plants from storage to the outside. They had more than broken dormancy, and I just couldn't put it off. As a result of the later frosts and chilly winds, I'm experiencing a lot of burn on leaf tips, buds, etc... It's funny, though... this has really shown me which varieties of my plants can handle abrupt changes, and which are too sensitive. It gives me more knowledge to put away for future purchases. I haven't even thought about the veggie end of it yet... too soon. I'll get the area prepped, then sow seeds sometime mid-May, I'm thinking. I just can't do it any other way. Not without heating the greenhouse. I'm one person with a million mile list of things that require my attention! I need help that actually understands what to do without being stood over and watched! That, or a trade-in on a new body! ;-) I'm glad some of you will be able to get things earlier... now watch; we'll have an early and freezing autumn this year, and I won't get any produce! Wouldn't that just figure?! |
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| Would you believe I had a down coat, mittens, and wool hat on two days ago ? This afternoon I have tank top, shorts and it's 80!! At least I finally got the annuals planted which were languishing in their cell packs and getting leggy. . |
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| After very warm weather, a front moved in over the weekend and it's very cool and wet. I haven't put anything in the pots, haven't even bought anything yet - that is on this wet weekend's list. Our last frost date is mid may but I usually get it all in on the first with safety. I'm not too sure I'll push it this year. |
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| Just call me Goldilocks. I hate hot, cold, and want it just right which it never is. Finished a three plus mile walk with the dogs and they(and I) were panting and sweating. They had coats on two days ago. The high on Sat. was 47, and for four nights there were frost/freeze warnings. Broke existing records. Today it's 80. I pity the poor birds and animals. |
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| I think I just need to employ patience... it'll all work out. The weather has been crazy... with cold fronts, heavy storms, then summer-like conditions. Today, hot and humid... I'd love to crank on the AC, but we'll try to hold off until it's absolutely necessary. As for the cold, I keep an extra quilt folded at the end of the bed. Just in case. We never used to have to worry about tornado weather in January and February... that wasn't until around June. Here it is, only the beginning of May, and we've already had a lot of nasty weather countrywide. |
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| If you don't like the weather, wait a day or less. Yesterday officially it was 81.5. Right now at the same time it's 57. Coat time again but I am still planting. |
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| We've found our normal summer temperature: mid 80's to low 90's daytime - mid 60's at night. A tad early this year and for the 1st time ever I'm watering my garden now. Rainfall certainly not up to the norm. Looking forward to an interesting summer (Chinese curse in mind). |
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| It's only the beginning of May, and already the weeds are out of control! I've been working at getting the beds cleared. It's slow going, and I seem to be allergic this year to some pollen that didn't affect me last season. I don't know where it's coming from, but it makes my eyes water and swell up, and I get all itchy. Hopefully, it will pass. We did get rain, so it makes weed pulling a lot easier. I can finally get the whole things, roots and all! Right now, the Iris in all heights, colors, and sizes are simply lovely! |
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| It's been fairly cold, windy and raining for the last few weeks in many local regions. I love the sound of the wind, rain, waves, running water and thunder at night. I went waterskiing and wakeboarding for the first time without a wetsuit several days ago. It was quite chilly, but refreshing, plus we had some nice swells and whitecaps. |
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| Usually this time of year, its below freezing many nights, nippy in the morning, and very windy most afternoons. This year, nope, the weather is at least 3 weeks ahead, the ash trees are already leafing out - that normally happens the last week of May. Its so tempting to set out tomatoes and peppers, which usually happens the first week of June. But its getting so hot in the greenhouse now that I may be forced to do something. |
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| Mid 80's here after four nights of frost /freeze warnings. Everything is planted , 15 tomato plants , tons of annuals, and the entire community veggie garden. If there' s frost, I just give up. |
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| Okay had to go looking for this one, did not want to start a new thread. The roses were gorgeous and now they are pretty much spent, the cherries on my neighbor's tree are fully red and only the size of a cherry seed, my lettuce that I sowed TWO months ago is maybe an inch and really pitiful looking, the spinach hit one inch or less and bolted ... the birds are singing at 4 AM. Oh and where is the rain ? Next to none in April and literally rains for about 30 seconds and moves on. Not planting a garden this year ... the roof will be bare. |
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| I don't usually have to get the soaker hoses going until later in the season, but it's so bone dry that I've had to start watering the main beds. This is crazy... |
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| Almost a perfect Spring here so far, mild temps but a little dry. Best pea, beet, & asparagus crops ever, and potatoes looking great. The earlier inch worm infestation pretty much deep sixed the cherries, plums, and apples. Peaches and pears seem ok. Corn showing tassles, melons setting. Waiting for the onslaught of main veggie pests any day now. |
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- Posted by woodnymph2 (My Page) on Thu, May 31, 12 at 9:31
| Flowers that I normally see blooming at mid-summer have been fully out since early May: e.g. hydrangeas, crepe myrtle, Pride of India, etc. We were grazed by Beryl here in Charleston, SC. It's the earliest start to the tropical storm/ hurricane season on record. |
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| We had flooding in some regions recently due to the downpours. My grass is growing like crazy this year. |
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| Everything is greeeeeeen so much rain in MAY. |
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| Wind / dust storms and a freeze. |
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| ....the lawns here are turning brown, something we usually don't see until July. :( |
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| We finally got a bit of rain today! I don't know how much, exactly, but I'm not betting it was enough to really soak the ground like it needs. It seems like most of us are in the same boat... very strange spring. It makes me wonder what summer will be like. |
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| No real spring here except for a couple days. A/C came on in February. Typically we don't turn it on until late April. No measurable precip for the past few weeks. Been watering something every day. Harvesting most tomatoes before they ripen to prevent the birds from pecking them. |
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- Posted by nancy_in_venice_ca SS24 z10 CA (My Page) on Thu, May 31, 12 at 22:19
| Somewhat warmer than normal temps as we've broken into the low 70s and are taking a break from the usual weeks-long forecast of 'highs today on the coast 67/68, with early morning clouds partially clearing in the afternoon.' The plants that flourish in relatively warmer temperatures are beginning to grow in advance of the 'June gloom' which usually lasts from late May to early July. The justicia carnea are blooming gloriously - come on over hummingbirds! - and some of the impatiens balfourii are blooming. The salvia chiapensis has been in bloom for some time.
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| Ironwoods flowered like crazy and made a horrible mess! I've read that when rainfall is limited, they "think" they are going to die so they hyper-produce flowers. This is about the third time in 20 years. It's just a normal cycle like everything else. |
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| Everything here is almost a month early. My tomato plants are huge, all 15 of them and they all have fruit on them. I'll get ripe tomatoes in June, unheard of here. Early July was the soonest and that was with the 4th of July tomato or Early Girl. Our spinach and lettuce have started to bolt so they will be harvested and more peas and beans and carrots planted. We got an inch of rain two days ago and we're a little ahead for May but behind for the year. Until then, I was watering every day. |
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| Got a large potato crop in with good timing so they look good. Peas are looking ok, fava beans ok. Planted the main corn and bean crops over a week ago and no rain since or for almost a week before, so that's a problem. Remember Albrecht's wise words: "fertility is the best drought hedge". |
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| "just a normal cycle like everything else" ....of course it isn't, the climate is changing and the only disagreement is whether we humans play a role in that. Anyone who continues to deny it, well anyway ... we got some light rains early this morn, the weather people said storms with thunder, but then they are having difficulties "predicting" these days as no matter what they say it does the opposite. Nancy your flowers are lovely ... :) |
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| After freeze and dust storms, now back to 15 F higher than normal temps. |
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| ...yesterday was a day of rain and the night turned quite chilly, enough that I had to close my windows. Up and down back and forth, where it goes no one knows. |
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| Rain just started here. Thanks be. |
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| Got a full 1 inch of rain, just in time for the tassling early corn and setting melons, cukes, and squash. First tomato to ripen in 10 days, that's about 3 weeks earlier than usual. A couple of semi-twisters nearby but thankfully no wind damage here. Expecting 80F for the rest of the week, in a sweet spot. |
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| No rain, we've missed several opportunities. Eggplant and peppers are coming along; I plan to cage my tomatoes today and replace some bedding plants in my large containers, as well as haul off limbs and debris from the 50+ trees on my property I had to have cut and removed due to hypoxylon canker. A cool front has brought a nice breeze, low humidity and temps are low 70s right now, but will get back up in the 90s. What was lush green three weeks ago is now brown.
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| Demi, what a treat being able to open the back door and enjoy a few hours of low humidity on the screened porch. Have a feeling it'll be months before that happens again. Hope you have some help with the hauling. |
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| I don't think there is anything "natural" about the suddenly changed "cycle" we're going through as a nation, with regard to its various areas of incredibly strange weather patterns and climate changes. I'm in zone 5, and I've NEVER seen plants of any kind pop out of winter dormancy in February! That's not natural! Nor are the incredibly hot and dry August-like conditions we've been experiencing since March. The saying goes... and has gone for as long as I can remember... April showers bring May flowers. But that's not what happened, and this is a first. There's nothing natural or cyclical about that. This is something much more, with the definite fingerprints of humankind and industry on it. Fields of corn and soybeans that were planted early this year are in severe stress from the heat and lack of moisture. I only thank reason that we are able to get water to our rose and perennial demo beds, and to our hay fields, which we need for winter feeding of livestock. It won't be good if farmers, big or small, lose crops to drought and heat this year... giant sprinkling systems for farms are extremely expensive. |
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- Posted by nancy_in_venice_ca SS24 z10 CA (My Page) on Sat, Jun 2, 12 at 12:52
| June gloom has arrived, exactly on schedule -- if you go by the calendar and not past experience. The overcast sky blocks a part of the color spectrum and some colors absolutely glow in this light. |
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| Jodi, I'm in zone 5 too and always have been, but this year it's been changed to zone 6 and maybe in some protected areas around here 7!! If this isn't climate change, people need to get their heads out of the sand. After the coastal storm last night, we got an inch of rain and thankfully today is cool..actually only 65 now.So the hoses which have been in use since March, unheard of, can get a few days rest. |
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| Temperature extremes occurred before the memory of gardenweb posters. Just part of earth's cycle, for whatever reason. Natal, yes it was very nice with low humidity this morning. I hope you got some of the rain we missed! No, I don't have help today, and no way can I get it all done--I am concentrating on cleaning up just around the house, as out of town guests are arriving tomorrow evening. |
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| We had a touch of rain on Thursday. Not enough to help. The sprinklers continue to be moved from point A to point B. Not cool enough for a sweater here, but it was a pure delight. I agree that weather extremes have always existed, but not to the extent that we've been seeing for the past few years. I can remember 10 years ago when we always could rely on afternoon summer showers. Now they're practically non-existent. |
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| We received just over an inch of rain yesterday and today. It was dust dry after perilously low levels in March, April and May. I can't wait to go down to my pond for a quick swim. But the temperatures have gotten low again, so I'll wait a few days for comfort. The garden is 2-3 weeks ahead of usual. I wonder what will be left to bloom in July-August. |
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| Spring came early up here; about 3 weeks. Then it frosted again. Still, it's early. We like it :) This has happened before; same as the winters--sometimes it's -40F; sometimes a heat wave of -15 or -20 in January. We'll take all the growing season we can get. |
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- Posted by sleeplessinftwayne z4-5 IND (My Page) on Sun, Jun 3, 12 at 17:22
| Several years ago our zone was changed from 5 to 6. Now I see they have changed it back again. I wonder when they will change it again? Right now it is totally what I would expect. I still think the Japanese Tsunami, the resulting change of the earth's axis and change in ocean currents have something to do with this seasons weather extremes. That is on top of ongoing climate change. I wonder if that has anything to do with Canada dropping it's ocean programs? With everything that is coming their way it may be several years before conditions stabilize. |
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| Sky here is hazy from the smoke, huge forest fire in New Mexico, largest on record beating out the record set last year. There are at least 4 fires now in Colorado, following the driest March on record, next to nothing for precipitation since January. Record-breaking warm temperatures in April and May. So the Rocky Mountains continue their string of breaking annual forest fire records in length of season, severity, acreage burned, cost, etc. Conditions now are the same as 2002, when Colorado broke all their fire records. Eh, who needs forests anyway. Can't hardly see the trees. |
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- Posted by haydayhayday none (My Page) on Mon, Jun 4, 12 at 9:35
| "and some of the impatiens balfourii are blooming." I'm very familiar with Impatiens Balfourii. VERY. It's a cousin of the VERY common Impatiens capensis, the orange Jewelweed, and Impatiens pallida, the yellow version of the same looking plant. Here in this part of the country, a part that gets 3"-4" of rain in the Summer months, the very common Impatiens are a real gardening nuisance. They're the easiest plants to pull as weeds, but they never go away. Impatiens Balfourii makes these common native weeds look tame in comparison. I would imagine that you live in a much drier location and perhaps in a closely packed neighborhood, but BEWARE!!! I gave some to a dancing/gardening friend about 8 years or so ago before I knew about its wicked ways. I found out within a year of that time that it was terribly invasive and warned her that she should try to eradicate it from her garden before it took over her entire neighborhood. Her neighborhood being the typical medium sized town street with lots as far as the eye can see. Just coincidentally, I needed to go by her house this past week. I hadn't been there since 8 years ago. We walked over to the edge of her lot, to a wooden fence that was about five feet tall. Looking over there we could see her neighbor's yard which had a section of untended garden. IT WAS, QUITE LITERALLY, A SOLID MASS OF IMPATIENS BALFOURII. My friend says that she spends her garden weeding time cursing me under her breath and wishes she had paid more attention to me when I warned her 7 years ago. I fully expect that Balfourii will continue to spread in this neighborhood and will eventually take over the East Coast of the United States. I can appreciate that you may have a totally different environment, but you've been warned. Everyone else should remember this post and the name Himalayan Impatiens, AKA, Impatiens Balfourii. Avoid it like the plague it is. Your friend, Hay
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| Changed my mind about the "garden of delight" on the roof and since I had the containers, soil and seeds ... I scattered some more in the pots yesterday. Went out this morning and it was so cool I came back in for a jacket. |
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- Posted by woodnymph2 (My Page) on Mon, Jun 4, 12 at 13:08
| Hay, balfourii won't likely take over the East Coast of the US, as Kudzu has already done that.... |
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| Kudzu, Wisteria, Honeysuckle and Morning Glories are all garden thugs for me. Beautiful and they smell good, but if you're like me and refuse to use chemicals like Roundup, they are estremely hard to eradicate. Try keeping them out of chain link fences, bordering rock walls and Leyland Cypresses when you only have access to your own side. |
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| DAMASCUS, Md. - Some residents of the DC region are still cleaning up after Friday's severe weather outbreak. The National Weather Service has confirmed that nine tornadoes touched down, all of them in Maryland. The strongest were in Howard and Harford counties. Those were EF1 storms with wind speeds of up to 110 miles an hour. nothing strange, nothing out of the ordinary, just a natural cycle. |
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| A nor'easter here, in june. It's been happening the last few years. 53 degrees, tried to plant cowpeas today, blowing a gale out at the field, felt like march. Got a fire going now, in june! |
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| The spinach I planted mid-March has bolted and I'm getting ready to pull it and plant something else in the space. We had the first peas of the season today from the seeds I also planted mid-march. Roses were blooming in late May, one almost finished with it's spring flush. All n all, we've had a nice albeit very early spring with plenty of rain. |
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| We've had a low circulating off the coast for days with rain every night. Yesterday winds were at 78 mph. The temps are in the low 50's. But not to worry, next week will be 90 they say. |
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| Good, 90's (or more likely mid-80's here) will bring on the corn and beans. |
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| Yesterday we had a 92 high with high humidity - the humidity was extremely unusual as it's usually dry - leading to very, very dry by July. I was out there digging and prepping three areas for new hydrangeas and was really bothered by the heat/humidity. However, a big front moved in last night with some small hail, rain and 30 degree lower temps. Tomorrow morning is highly likely to bring an honest to goodness frost, the kind where weather people are warning to cover tender vegetation! I have lived here since 93 and never have we had a frost this late, ever. As a matter of fact, the last predicted frost date tends to be May 15th and I always wait until that day before putting out tender plants - and am the last in the neighborhood to do so. Every year I always swear that I'm doing what everyone else is doing and putting them out May 1st because the neighbors never have a problem losing their tenders due to a frost - but this year I once again waited because the temps has been so unusual. So did all my neighbors - this year they decided to wait with me. I just got three more hydrangeas in the mail, am waiting before planting them until that frost warning passes, they were so darn expensive - along with the enormous shipping charge!! and are very small and very tender. I would have gladly given my local nurseries my money (would have gotten much more mature plants for far less) but they didn't carry perfectly ordinary hydrangeas I wanted. But being so tender and already stressed from being shipped in 90+ degrees temps in a thick cardboard box, I'm sure they will gladly wait until the frost date has passed and then I'll get them into the pre-prepared, amended spot! I have a feeling that we will have high temps even through late October. For quite a few years after we moved here, I used to know we would probably get our first snowfall right before or even on my birthday in late October, but that hasn't happened in a very long time, I don't even think about snow/late October anymore. |
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| Rain rain glorious wonderful rain ... Thank You ! |
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| I was just visiting my Sis and BIL who received their mandatory evacution notice for the big fire west of Fort Collins, phone calll at 3:30 am, but the fire stopped 200 yards from their house, and they were allowed back in a couple days later. The smoke was still so thick you can't see very far. That fire will burn for the summer, its headed into the 70% standing dead beetle kill, with drought conditions. |
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| .....have been reading about the fire burning there David, we are actually in a drought but nothing like what you are facing. Glad your sister's home was spared and sorry for all those who have lost theirs. |
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| Have been following the Colorado/Arizona fires with great sympathy for all - have thought of you frequently, David. What a blessing that a mere 200 yards saved a family home. I pray that the winds blow in a direction which will prevent more loss to individuals - losing a home is considered very nearly equal in stress as losing a spouse, and the stress lasts as long with equally lasting residuals of issues. After all, what is just "stuff" to everyone else, is so often the total representation of a family's entire life's work and representations of memories of their past. I love my great grandparents, grandparents and my parent's things that I own far less because of intrinsic value or only because of their true beauty, but by far and away because when I see or use them, they have that unique, magical ability to bring those who are long gone from me to come back to me in the form of smiling, fond and loving memories at those very moments - if only for a little while, in an intense way. I feel sad when I see nice things for sale which are obviously very old. I know it's not probably true, but it always strikes me as someone is no longer a valuable, beloved memory to their ancestors - or that a family line has died out. Someone has finally been forgotten. I know that is not true, but I've always felt that way when seeing obviously old "family" pieces for sale. Maybe it's my deeply southern DNA rising again! Having, using and loving my deceased family members things makes me feel close to them once again, in a way that memory alone doesn't always quite accomplish. They heighten the memory experience. Their beloved things compound the memories - with their things, I can touch what they touched, love what they loved, use exactly as they used those mere things. But, when it comes to the emotions of losing all of that, or all of what a single family have carefully accumulated and the memories attached to them - that I really get it. I deeply hope that sort of a loss never happens to me and always feel so deeply for those families who do lose "everything" in disasters. It happens so often, we forget how vunerable we are to so much of the unexpected dangers in our lives. Of COURSE one is always 'on their knees' grateful if the family gets out without any physical harm - of couse that is of the highest and first concern - but once the high emotions of that begins to fade and the "stuff" loss begins to be tallied, it can be a very painful emotional and very tally, indeed. One of my sisters had to flee the state when Katrina was coming, in the fury of packing, her littlest (7) forgot to pack her beloved, carefully accumulated collection of used perfume bottles. She cried over those forever lost cheap little bottles for three days. She had no interest in starting a new collection of perfume bottles. David, I hope you and all of your loved ones stay out of the way of the flames. On a very odd side note, probably inappropriate to this thread - if this fire decimates most of the dead/dying/infected trees due to the invasive beetle (saw that on the news last night) - in the very broad view and big picture, is this a good thing ecologically? I uderstand that fire in and of itself is good from an ecological point of view ONLY - but is this also one way that nature can eradicate a distructive insect? I hope that question doesn't strike anyone as heartless or thoughtless, I honestly don't mean it that way at all. |
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| I've heard bits and pieces about fires burning west, too... my hope is that everyone will be ok, and the fires can be brought under control. Every time rain is forecast for our area, it just misses us... or we get just enough to evaporate with the morning sun. Today is hotter than blazes, and we're running hoses and rain birds to keep the hay fields and gardens alive. We don't have a choice at this point. |
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| 62 degrees here as grandson kayaks down the creek in his sojourner trip. It also poured on them, BUT it will be 92-95 the rest of the week with index near 100!!. |
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| My sympathies also for you David and your neighbors. Can't imagine the destruction and smoke out there, hope a rare soaking rain helps soon, but not too much. Here the garden pests are very minimal, hard pressed to locate a squash bug or cuke beetle which is unheard of this far into the season....that might change in a heartbeat. Still a bit dry but not too dry yet. Garden never looked better, cukes, squash, and snaps coming out our ears. Corn so close that I can taste it, melons begging to ripen, been a sweet spring, hoping summer is as forgiving. |
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| Bark beetle populations are kept in check by a certain number of sub-zero temps/days in the winter, which we no longer get. This beetle population explosion is compounded by drought and longer dry hot weather as the snows melt sooner and start later. Fire on this scale does little except destroy watersheds, so the ramifications of this fire will go on for years as the huge silt load fills reservoirs and such. I'm now in Denver, and the entire northern horizon is smoke/haze from the fire. |
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| David..we can expect this kind of weather from here on as the climate changes. I always thought it wouldn't happen in MY lifetime but my grandkids'. I hope you get some breaks out there..a good dose of rain. They revised the forecast here to go from 67 today to 98 by Thursday. Starts summer with a bang. Every year I dread summers more. We used to have a few day with 90 plus. Now we have 30 and maybe three or four 100 plus like last July. |
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| Lily it looks like we are going to be inside in the air condition house. I will go out and walk around and see what the deer ate and run back inside and pout. |
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| We're already fighting the Japanese beetles that devour everything. Nature is out of sync, here... badly. |
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| I wonder how many people in NA choose between AC or enough to eat? I'd go for the food, because IMO there is nothing worse than being trapped in a house with AC and thinking it's too hot to be outside in the shade. |
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| ....gave my A/C window unit away PnB, it was definitely a decision in priorities, and of course the rest of the week will be in the 90's so I will be seeking shade :) |
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| If we do have the pedicted high today of 70, it will be a record low for the day's high. In two days, we are predicted a high of 92. |
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- Posted by tishtoshnm 6/NM (My Page) on Tue, Jun 19, 12 at 13:31
| David..I hope your place is well out of the path of the fire. One of our wildfires has burned more than 200 homes already and there is another huge one in the south. The junipers and pinon around my house is not very dense but my mother's house is a different story. I may have to approach my mother and stepfather about going over and working on thinning some and removing the dead trees as it is really only a matter of time until one hits this area. |
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| First tomatoes today. Three lovely plump ones,and many,many more waiting to ripen. ....also my first post from my new iPad. Am teaching myself. These things are amazing!!!! |
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| Lily, I can hardly believe you are in a z5. Are you sure? |
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| Everything is early this year .... 90's here with the promise of rain again tomorrow (we will see). Off to work, have a wonderful day. Peace |
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| It had to be 90 in the shade here yesterday, for sure. It was so terribly hot... I feel for those who cannot escape the heat. I'm expecting record numbers of heat related illness and deaths this year, though I hope it isn't so... |
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- Posted by duluthinbloomz4 zone 4a (My Page) on Wed, Jun 20, 12 at 11:55
| Anyone who needs rain, PLEASE take some of ours! We're in a state of emergency; roads, tunnels, bridges closed. 8 inches of rain in the last 12 hours. Been raining off and on for days before this - and we were already 5" above normal before this started. It's just a narrow band stalled by the lake. The zoo way out in our western regions flooded and Berlin, one of our Polar Bears escaped - big and white should have been easy to spot. Eventually captured and returned without incident. This is going to be another summer in a long string when AC is simply not needed. |
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| Yes.PN, I have been in zone 5 for as long as there were zones but recently heard because of the warmup of the earth we have been changed to zone 6. Remember we had 80's in April and we planted early. My 15 tomato plants are so lush and tall and thick we can hardly walk thru the patch. Our community garden is producing crazy too. We are harvesting peas, beans,pole beans, squash, zucchini every day. But with all that, my gorgeous impatiens which I've grown for 30 years are mostly dying. I heard there is a fungus attacking them ,and I'm not the only person. It's happening everywhere. Anyone here? |
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| Duluthinbloom, I hope you are staying dry. I just saw some pictures of the flood. Duluth looks like a war zone. |
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- Posted by duluthinbloomz4 zone 4a (My Page) on Wed, Jun 20, 12 at 14:39
| Thanks. I'm on a corner on high ground. My main street is blocked off but I have a clear alternate - the placid little creek that meanders behind the houses across the avenue from me is now a rushing torrent almost a city block wide. It overtook the nice big decorative culvert and some low lying houses are flooded. A lot of neighborgoods are going to be flooded - this little creek winds around all over the place until it finally empties into L. Superior. People galore taking pictures; no one's ever seen anything like this here - I never have. Seems to be a lull in the rain, but it's supposedly not over yet.
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