Return to the Hot Topics Forum | Post a Follow-Up

 o
Maternal instinct waning in American white women?

Posted by tobr24u z6 RI (My Page) on
Wed, Jul 24, 13 at 5:23

Last year was the first time that more Americans died than were born. This was interpreted by Barbara Amiel,a Canadian essayist, to speculate that with all of the options available to them that being a mother might not be as strong an instinct as we previously thought. Interesting, but I'm not sure that I buy it, how about you? (Maclean's,July 1&8),


Follow-Up Postings:

 o
RE: Maternal instinct waning in American white women?

Do you mean more American babies died than were born? Or more American white babies? Or more white Americans? Or more Americans?

Is it me or is something here vague?

I don't understand the statistic.


 o
RE: Maternal instinct waning in American white women?

I think probably Richard, that the economy has at least somewhat to do with it. Couples that might otherwise want to start a family are dealing with just making ends meet and aren't ready to bring a baby into that situation. Also there are those who think the world is a mess period and don't believe they would be doing the right thing bringing a child into this world.


 o
RE: Maternal instinct waning in American white women?

More ethnic whites died than were born in the USA - a difference of about 12,400. However, that was offset by the immigration of 188,000 non-Hispanic whites mostly from Canada, Germany, Russia, and Saudi Arabia.

Article link below.

Population demographics change. It's what happens all the time all over the world and throughout history. Is it a linear trajection? We'll have to wait and see, but it's interesting to watch and speculate.

Here is a link that might be useful: Non-H Whites-Births, Deaths.Trend or Anomaly?


 o
RE: Maternal instinct waning in American white women?

It is weird to be so far outside the average for my demographic. I am more typical for 1880, which means I only have a few years to live, at most.


 o
RE: Maternal instinct waning in American white women?

Barbara Amiel is the wife of Conrad Black, Canada's resident millionaire criminal and fraudster, the woman whose statement to Vanity Fair Magazine, "My greed knows no bounds," brought down her husband's empire and drew attention to their lavish lifestyle on others' money.
Why would anyone listen to this bottom feeder and worse yet, quote her opinions as if they were valuable?


 o
RE: Maternal instinct waning in American white women?

Thanks for your post, ninamarie. I didn't know who the author is, looked her up, and you are right that she is pretty scummy. Moving on.

I should know better than to trust the op poster.


 o
RE: Maternal instinct waning in American white women?

Barbra Amiel and her husband , Conrad Black, are an embarrassment to Canada...actually more to themselves than Canada.

Not sure where they live now. Barbara preferred their home in Florida while Conrad was in jail there. They have been totally ostracized from the British "social set" they so longed to be part of and Black has been stripped of his Canadian citizenship.


 o
RE: Maternal instinct waning in American white women?

Affluent females tend to reproduce at a much lower rate than non affluent females-this is a cultural trend that goes back through history. Roman women were harangued about not having enough children so that Rome was being taken over by foreigners. Since white women are more likely to be affluent then......All in all resident Americans have not been reproducing themselves for some time-decades-we have been growing only by virtue of immigration for a long time. Since a large part of that growth has been Hispanic the demographic makeup of the country will change.
It is only when this sort of information is used to express racism or xenophobia that it becomes a problem.


 o
RE: Maternal instinct waning in American white women?

tobr24u, my opinion is that there are many animal instincts; but human beings are the only species who can - of their own free will - curb or control these instincts.
For instance, a mother will disobey her own instinct to survive in order that her offspring might.
And so, I believe that the "Western Woman" has subordinated her maternal instinct to some other perceived higher need.
I do not feel up to the task of debating the merits and demerits of this choice.


 o
RE: Maternal instinct waning in American white women?

If she is still being published by Maclean's she must have something to say of merit. And Pidge, I am sure your profound offerings would lift this forum to new heights...


 o
RE: Maternal instinct waning in American white women?

Not sure what the author has to do with the question anyway?


 o Post a Follow-Up

Please Note: Only registered members are able to post messages to this forum.

    If you are a member, please log in.

    If you aren't yet a member, join now!


Return to the Hot Topics Forum

Information about Posting

  • You must be logged in to post a message. Once you are logged in, a posting window will appear at the bottom of the messages. If you are not a member, please register for an account.
  • Posting is a two-step process. Once you have composed your message, you will be taken to the preview page. You will then have a chance to review your post, make changes and upload photos.
  • After posting your message, you may need to refresh the forum page in order to see it.
  • Before posting copyrighted material, please read about Copyright and Fair Use.
  • We have a strict no-advertising policy!
  • If you would like to practice posting or uploading photos, please visit our Test forum.
  • If you need assistance, please Contact Us and we will be happy to help.


Learn more about in-text links on this page here