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Romney as Lucifer at the NAACP

Posted by heri_cles 10 (My Page) on
Thu, Jul 12, 12 at 7:34

Romney told a room of African Americans at an NAACP convention that he would cut all social programs to the bone and repeal "Obamacare", then he stood with the oddest look on his face for a prolonged time while he received some boos.

It was an awkward and scripted moment that lasted too long and made him appear as evil as Lucifer himself.
I just kept thinking that Romney looked like the anti-Christ as he peered across the audience with freakish smile, enjoying his arrogance and wealth in a highly inappropriate setting.

"Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul to waste,

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game."

lyrics from Sympathy for the Devil - The Rolling Stones

Here is a link that might be useful: Pleased to meet you hope you guess my name


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He looked more like a guy that wandered into the wrong neighborhood...


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He pandered to the white not the right.
SEE how mean they are to me booo hoo hoo a trick he could have picked up on the forum. I wonder how long he rehearsed the pause after OBAMA CARE.


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The whole thing was weird.


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Mitt Romney clearly does not know how to approach a group of people with a campaign speech that would resonate with the majority of his audience.

His referral to the healthcare bill as Obamacare was just plain dumb. I think he really needs to replace his top PR guy...you know the one who made the etcha-sketch comment , the same guy that said Romney thought the healthcare mandate penalty was NOT a tax....the guy who let him use that phrase in this venue...yeah the same guy.

Actually maybe he should keep him


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It is reported that as many as 87% of blacks support the president. Maybe that's why he never showed up at the meeting.
I think that it takes alot of guts for Romney to show up to a crowd that may not be friendly. This was a shrewd political move, the commentary after his appearance was positive and he got a standing ovation, how is it that the OP overlooked that?
Someone explain to me how someone described here as Lucifer, is currently running neck-to-neck with an incumbent president.


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Labrea has it right. He was not there to try to win over the black vote.

He was using the NAACP to get the white vote.

This is Julian Bond's take on it.

He went there to bait us," Bond said. He argued that Romney deliberately sparked boos by referring to "Obamacare," which Bond said many African Americans regard as pejorative.

"He wanted to be able to go to some of the independents he needs to get elected and tell them, 'See? I stood up to the Negroes,'" Bond said. He noted that Romney later said on Fox News that he knew he'd be booed for the Obamacare remark. "


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Well, its not like he's going to start talking about his offshore tax haven accounts and the cost of owning show horses.

/like Duh.


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Oh right...he should have gone there and lied? He got a standing ovation when he finished his speech. Some won't like him no matter what, some will listen, and some will vote for him. Think Obama might get a chilly welcome at an NRA convention?


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Think Obama might get a chilly welcome at an NRA convention?

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Yea, but has he got the guts to go?


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Obama might get a chilly welcome at an NRA convention?

No they would never have invited him first of all because they do not have that much class and if he showed up they would have shot him and used stand your ground defense.

Yes they stood up and clapped it is called respect it is something Romney failed to do by not using the correct name for the bill. Good Luck repealing ObamaCare since that has never been passed.


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Anyone who thinks Romney was a hit with the NAACP crowd is living in a Republican bubble. If that crowd were not so courteous, in other words, if they had the manners of the Republican T-Partiers, you'd hear all kinds of jeering and hooting and snark from them about what they really think about Romney's ideas. Fortunately for him, that crowd is too courteous to behave that way.

However, Romney stacked the deck a bit also. He brought about 20 Black Republicans with him. Their job was to applaud and cheer at appropriate moments. Romney also met with the 20 Black Republicans after the speech and then announced that after his speech, "a group of black leaders" wanted to meet with him--strongly implying that they were NAACP leadership that were responding favorably to Romney's ideas--when in fact it was a pre-arranged meeting with his own Republicans and had nothing to do with the NAACP at all.

Another example of Republicans trying to manipulate a situation to create a false impression that favors Republicans--the BIG LIE--say it, repeat it, enough times, and a lot of listeners will begin to believe it is true--WHEN IT IS NOT!!!!!

Kate


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Someone explain to me how someone described here as Lucifer, is currently running neck-to-neck with an incumbent president.

That's how Lucifer works ....


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Mr. Romney was invited and had no choice but to go. To refuse the invitation would have been a huge misstep and political suicide. It had nothing to do with courage.

He also wanted to make a point that he went but the President didn't. He may have scored some points for that had he not been insensitive to his audience.


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The fact remains. President Obama has done very little if anything for black Americans.

You can't change that!


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I don't understand why someone is seen as courageous for simply talking to a group of American citizens. Romney did get polite applause when he wasn't insulting the audience in order to please his rightwing base. If you have any doubt look at what he said later that night at a fundraiser about black support for Obama and healthcare reform that "Anyone who wants free stuff should vote for Obama". What a condescending statement - its similar to the blow off he gave to women concerned about reproductive rights.

And what was that statement about what was in his heart?

I believe that if you understood who I truly am in my heart, and if it were possible to fully communicate what I believe is in the real, enduring best interest of African-American families, you would vote for me for president

So he thinks he knows what is best for African Americans - that he knows better than the first African American president with 95% approval from the black community. Why then is it impossible to communicate what he believes and why can't he simply tell them what is in his heart? Is it because he thinks the audience is too stupid to understand or is it that he is a bigshot CEO who won't bother to explain himself but expects people to shut up and take his word - the word of a man who has flip flopped all over the place? Its insulting - intentionally so. I think he went there to bait and provoke people and get booed so he can appeal to a certain class of white voter who still is not energized by Romney.


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The fact remains. President Obama has done very little if anything for black Americans.

You can't change that!

He was not elected as the African American Leader he was elected as all of America Leader.

As a leader of America all of the accomplishments he has done since elected to office has done much for all of America.

You cannot change that!


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I concur with Kate... there's not very much that's not prearranged, an illusion to fool the intended crowd. That's media, and that's politics. Truth and realism have been tucked away, sharing a closet filled with GOP skeletons.

I also agree with David... there's no way there will be any mention of financial activities, regardless of anything... the less his followers know about his private affairs, the more of them he will keep.


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"He wanted to be able to go to some of the independents he needs to get elected and tell them, 'See? I stood up to the Negroes,'" Bond said. He noted that Romney later said on Fox News that he knew he'd be booed for the Obamacare remark. "

Mittens isn't above the dog-whistle tactic. So telling of his character, and that of the GOP.

Shameful!


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I'm sorry, but this guy just gives me the worst indigestion. What a turd in the punchbowl of America.

Here is a link that might be useful: Mitt Romney Says...


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There is no way on earth I could vote for Romney. The more I hear and see of him the more I think he is truly an unprincipled man and he certainly isn't very smart in terms of his comments. I know those who that think President Obama is going to single handedly lead them into a socialistic society and take all their money will follow Romney regardless of anything he says or does. However, my gut tells me he will bury himself with independents.

Should Romney win, I think that those that voted for him will be in for a big surprise. If he does what he sorta says he'll do then I guarantee you the results will be very , very ugly in term of social unrest.


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  • Posted by natal Louisiana 8b (My Page) on
    Thu, Jul 12, 12 at 11:59

Heri, that's their man! You hit the nail.


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I'm kinda borrowing this from something I read, but... "More bad news for Republicans - President Obama will remain black for four more years, following his win come this election." ;-)


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he is truly an unprincipled man and he certainly isn't very smart in terms of his comments

Preferred to being a perceived "socialist"! Who needs principles?


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The whistle is loud and seemingly very effective considering all the so called "conservatives" who can't stand Romney are right in the front of the line defending his every word.

On her show Wednesday night, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow reported that Mitt Romney had responded to being booed by the NAACP by telling them to vote for President Barack Obama if they wanted handouts.

"Remind them of this: If they want more stuff from government, tell them to go vote for the other guy more free stuff," Romney reportedly said at a fundraiser in Hamilton, Montana. "But dont forget, nothing is really free."

Attendees at the 103rd convention of the NAACP loudly booed the presumptive Republican presidential candidate on Wednesday after he promised to eliminate Obamas health care reform law.

"If our goal is jobs, we have to stop spending over a trillion dollars more than we take in every year," Romney told the audience. "And so to do that, Im going to eliminate every nonessential, expensive program I can find. And that includes Obamacare."

At that point, the candidate was forced to pause his remarks and smile as the crowd booed for an uncomfortable three seconds.

"It seemed like Mitt Romney wanted to get booed at the NAACP this morning, wanted to wear that around his neck like a badge of courage," Maddow remarked. "Looks like he is not wasting any time."

During the Republican primary race, the NAACP had criticized former House Speaker Newt Gingrich for making a similar remark about handouts. Gingrich in January said he would "go to the NAACP convention, and tell the African-American community why they should demand paychecks instead of food stamps."

If you can't see what he is, I am terryfied.


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The whistle is loud and seemingly very effective considering all the so called "conservatives" who can't stand Romney are right in the front of the line defending his every word.

There's common ground after all.

Shameful!


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Very!


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Posted by chase z6 (My Page) on Thu, Jul 12, 12 at 11:45
Should Romney win, I think that those that voted for him will be in for a big surprise. If he does what he sorta says he'll do then I guarantee you the results will be very , very ugly in term of social unrest.
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chase, that same sentence could read:
When Obama won, I think those that voted for him were in for a big surprise. If he is reelected and he does what he sorta says he'll do then I guarantee you the results will be very , very ugly in term of social unrest.

chase our social unrest is worse now than it was 4 years ago.

As President of The United States...Obama was elected as a leader for all of the people.
Not just people with no insurance.


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Like what CW...what does President Obama say he will do if reelected that will create huge social unrest if reelected?

And what specifically has HE done that has caused social unrest during his first term?


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Chase wrote There is no way on earth I could vote for Romney
We agree that you can't vote for Romney, since you live in Canada, find someone in Canada to vote for. :)


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And what specifically has HE done that has caused social unrest during his first term?

He continued the tax cuts for the wealthy!

sam - good one :)


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As President of The United States...Obama was elected as a leader for all of the people.
Not just people with no insurance.

He was very clear about his intention to reform and extend health care; it was a major part of his campaign in 2008.


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"He was not elected as the African American Leader he was elected as all of America Leader."

If he had remembered that, and if he had shown respect for "all of America" instead of the radical wing of his party, he might have earned a second term.

But we've seen too many posts right here from his most ardent supporters, demeaning older white men, the white working class, conservative women, people of faith, and the United States of America.

Throw in the hideousness of Obamacare, the lies about not a dime of new taxes for families making under $250,000 per year, and the efforts of Eric Holder to allow voter fraud in as many states as possible, and Democrats have clearly burned their bridges with middle America.


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Romney is a strange duck. Very odd and uncomfortable unless he's with the very rich and privileged. He HAD to go to the NAACP convention because he was invited. To do less would open him to criticism. BUT he baited the audience so he could show clips to his WHITE rich followers how he put them in their place. It is NOT Obama care, it's the Affordable healthcare act. Did the people call it Romneycare in MA? Littleone can answer that.

Romney is the most unlikable figure in recent years to run for president. As much as the name Bush makes me gag, Dubya was at least amicable.


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Someone explain to me how someone described here as Lucifer, is currently running neck-to-neck with an incumbent president.

Social, moral, and cultural decay of an empire.

-Ron-


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He played that audience like a hand of poker!
It's the revrend Wright effect all over again as Willard grew up in a faith that declared blacks could no be priest holders. Tit For Tat.

'Following the death of Joseph Smith, Jr., Mormon leaders beginning with Brigham Young instituted a policy of excluding most people of black African descent (regardless of actual skin color) from Priesthood ordination and from participation in temple ceremonies. These practices continued in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) until the 1978 Revelation on Priesthood, which was canonized as Official Declaration�2."
They wanted to build a temple in Brazil mnnn ok not too many folks in Brazil who aren't a blend.
Low & Behold a Revelation well lordy lordy lordy didn't even need a seers stone for that!


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If he had remembered that, and if he had shown respect for "all of America" instead of the radical wing of his party, he might have earned a second term.

But we've seen too many posts right here from his most ardent supporters, demeaning older white men, the white working class, conservative women, people of faith, and the United States of America.

Throw in the hideousness of Obamacare, the lies about not a dime of new taxes for families making under $250,000 per year, and the efforts of Eric Holder to allow voter fraud in as many states as possible, and Democrats have clearly burned their bridges with middle America.

Spun like a Foxbox top.
Democrats have burned their bridges with middle America?
It's the reverse. Romney and the 1% have burned their bridges with us.
And by the way, the unprecedented assault on voter rights
before the re-election of the first African American president is disgusting. Trying to spin that into some supposed acquiescence by the black US atty General to voter fraud is a further provocation and an affront to the Constitutional Right to Vote.
As far as divisiveness and old white men, look no further than the unprecedented obstruction in Congress quantified by the number of filibusters and the shameful conduct of Representative Wilson, Mitch McConnell and others.

President Obama has never told immigrant families to self deport, told women to squeeze and aspirin between their legs, or blamed public employees, teachers, firemen, policemen and Union workers for the Recession. The middle class is more encompassing than older white Americans, and even some of us old white folk vote Democratic because we believe in the middle class, in the strength and ability of our work force union and non-union, and because we have the courage to stand up to powerful corporate interests, from the health insurance companies to the oil industry. We believe in sensible regulations on private industry that are balanced and designed for the health safety and welfare of all the people, not just investors and CEOs.
You've got it all wrong.


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You've got it all wrong.

Oh but they know that alright.


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Maddie, it's called denial.


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Actually, it was pretty good politics.

He goes before the NAACP and intentionally says something he knows will get him booed.

So video of his statement and the crowd reaction inevitably goes to every news channel and corner of the internet, and then they claim he was booed because they "want free stuff".

Its stupid and makes no sense -- the people who go to NAACP meetings are some very wealthy people in their own right, and upper middle-class people.

It is a dog whistle to all the "right" people, and it costs him nothing because the people he offends would never vote for him anyway. Just look at the gloating on this forum.


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OMG, david's right!

So video of his statement and the crowd reaction inevitably goes to every news channel and corner of the internet, and then they claim he was booed because they "want free stuff".


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Yep a dish of pork tartar flung to the far white!
The man told the truth............he hasn't a clue what he freaking stands for one minute to the next he told the truth my ass. He worked a crowd & got what he wanted now do you believe I'm a severe conservative or not.
The only thing this fakes is missing is a seers hat & stone


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"if he had shown respect for "all of America" instead of the radical wing of his party," can this have been written by a person with any political nous at all? It is beyond evident that Obama has moved towards the centre politically, which is totally opposite to a statement that can only have come from right wing propaganda.


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Full text of the lyrics with my interpretation
as it fits the current state of our political
positions. Heri must have tuned into his inner
observer to bring up this insightful musical
piece that has stated what we are doing to
ourselves and the world around us. As evidenced
in the link the song describes mankind very well.

You say Obama did not live up to his promises
made when running. I say that he and we are lucky
to have what has been done in spite of the
republican do nothing and block all things from
Obama and democrats by filibustering all that
is proposed for the benefit of the country and
the people. This includes things the republicans
were for or even initiated themselves.

Rolling Stones Sympathy For The Devil Lyrics
Songwriters: JAGGER, MICK / RICHARDS, KEITH

Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a mans soul and faith

Romney and Bain Capitol steeling peoples
lives and security and jobs for their personal
gain.

And I was round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

No respect for religious belief of any
kind by the Republicans resulting in the
fear that Christians will be as vilified as
the rest of the religions by them evidenced
by each sect of Christian religion being
touted as the only true one.


Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game

The spirit of Lucifer inhabiting The
new Republican party in a way not perceived
by them through the Corporations now categorized
as individuals allowing them to anonymously
influence political outcome with mega bucks.
Romney being the perfect representative.

I stuck around St.Petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change
Killed the czar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain

Anomalous to the U.S. today and the
Republicans wanting change by hook or crook
in the form of taking over every aspect of
government in all three sections plus military,
financial, media and all of the states.

I rode a tank
Held a generals rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank

Everlasting war to feed the Military-Industrial
Complex to keep the population off balance by
the horrors that man can produce and that we
cannot turn away from like the inevitable
train wreck.

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name, oh yeah
Ah, what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah

See above repeated chorus verse.

I watched with glee
While your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made

Again the everlasting war based on religion
and greed.

I shouted out,
Who killed the Kennedy's?
When after all
It was you and me

We are all responsible through the dark
side of our desires - greed, divisive religious
beliefs and patriotism that dividesand excludes
the rest of mankind that we think do not deserve
the same life we live.

Let me please introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
And I laid traps for troubadours
Who get killed before they reached Bombay

Do not let others have what we do or they
will take ours away not realizing that to give
of our good is to receive.

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah, get down, baby

See above repeated chorus verse.

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah
But what's confusing you
Is just the nature of my game

See above repeated chorus verse.

Just as every cop is a criminal
And all the sinners saints
As heads is tails
Just call me Lucifer
Cause I'm in need of some restraint

The arming of police with military ordinance
and lessening the restraints on how the public
is dealt with when they have had enough and will
not take it any more, pepper spray, roughing up
and over detaining.

So if you meet me
Have some courtesy
Have some sympathy, and some taste

Allow the repression or pay the price.

Use all your well-learned politesse
Or I'll lay your soul to waste, um yeah
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, um yeah

Fight back in the political realm as it
is the last venue of defence but only if the
populace awakens to the true nature of the game.

But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, um mean it, get down
Woo, who
Oh yeah, get on down
Oh yeah
Oh yeah!

Tell me baby, what's my name
Tell me honey, can ya guess my name
Tell me baby, what's my name
I tell you one time, you're to blame
Ooo, who
Ooo, who
Ooo, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Oh, yeah

What's my name
Tell me, baby, what's my name
Tell me, sweetie, what's my name
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Oh, yeah

Meanings of the lyrics from...

Songfacts:


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Posted by chase z6 (My Page) on Thu, Jul 12, 12 at 8:29

"Mitt Romney clearly does not know how to approach a group of people with a campaign speech that would resonate with the majority of his audience."

You mean he's not telling what they want to hear, instead of the truth?

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Posted by sam_md z7 MD (My Page) on Thu, Jul 12, 12 at 8:46

"Someone explain to me how someone described here as Lucifer, is currently running neck-to-neck with an incumbent president."

Good question, Sam. ;-)

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Posted by chase z6 (My Page) on Thu, Jul 12, 12 at 9:54

"He also wanted to make a point that he went but the President didn't."

He certainly did make that point. That was not lost on many, I think.

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Posted by dublinbay z6 KS (My Page) on Thu, Jul 12, 12 at 9:40

"However, Romney stacked the deck a bit also. He brought about 20 Black Republicans with him. Their job was to applaud and cheer at appropriate moments. Romney also met with the 20 Black Republicans after the speech and then announced that after his speech, "a group of black leaders" wanted to meet with him--strongly implying that they were NAACP leadership that were responding favorably to Romney's ideas--when in fact it was a pre-arranged meeting with his own Republicans and had nothing to do with the NAACP at all."

Source?

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"Posted by sam_md z7 MD (My Page) on Thu, Jul 12, 12 at 13:06

Chase wrote There is no way on earth I could vote for Romney
We agree that you can't vote for Romney, since you live in Canada, find someone in Canada to vote for. :) "

Thank you, Sam!

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Elvis, I thought you said in another thread that you thought sources were worthless Make up your mind.

"Did Mitt Romney bring in supporters to cheer him on during his Wednesday speech to the NAACP?

That's the charge made by Hilary Shelton, who heads up the Washington, D.C., chapter of the NAACP. Shelton told Ed Schultz on MSNBC Wednesday night that Romney flew in supporters to Houston to applaud him at the civil rights group's annual convention.

"The campaign actually gave me a list of African-American VIPs that they brought in to the NAACP meeting," Shelton told Schultz. "So, I�m sure those are the ones they sat down with because, quite frankly, none of the rank-and-file NAACPers met with him."

Here is a link that might be useful: a worthless link


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"Clinton said Obama has earned a second term because of his steering of the economy through a "miserable situation" and "the alternative would be, in my opinion, calamitous for our country and the world.""

I would not vote for Romney even if he were the only choice.

Here is a link that might be useful: linky dinky


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My decoding ring hears "You people want a free lunch"


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We've seen how well 'divide-and-conquer' works in Wisconsin. Why not try it on a national scale?

-Ron-


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I'm with you, there, Don... there isn't enough money or gold or anything in the world that could make me cast a vote in his favor. He just might be the devil incarnate... I am flabbergasted that he has a single supporter, given his entire persona and what's been said to this point. The only ones who could find it within to support him are already within his class and religious beliefs... they have to be, because it's not logical, at all, to follow him if you aren't.


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Thank you, chloe, for stepping in with a link while I was not online.

You'd think some posters would have learned by now that I do not go around making up stories just to get some good propaganda for my candidate. There always is support for my claims--or I wouldn't make them in the first place.

On the other hand, we have enough posters on this forum who regularly make up any lie -- just so it puts down Obama and his supporters, so I guess that is why they can't comprehend that other people believe in and practice honesty and integrity.

Kate


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In a Clinton/Plainesque way he also saw his father march with Martin Luther King. When pressed he spoke of dictionaries & figures of speech & in his heart which has it's secrets that he just can't convey he saw his father march with Martin Luther King.....WOW!


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In a Clinton/Plainesque way he also saw his father march with Martin Luther King. When pressed he spoke of dictionaries & figures of speech & in his heart which has it's secrets that he just can't convey he saw his father march with Martin Luther King.....WOW!


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Has anyone noticed regarding all negative comments made about Romney and tall tale throwing about Romney.....if we just deleted Romney and filled in Obama's name, the shoe would fit perfectly. Just saying.


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Time for you to go to bed, get some rest for your own good. Just sayin.


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I don't think so CW. Maybe you will see more clearly after a good nights sleep and will retract your statement.

If not, well it will give us a good laugh.


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I saw that clip tonight when Mitt said he saw his dad march with MLK. When pressed he said he didn't actually "see" him but knows it was in his heart to march. Liar, Liar , pants on fire.


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  • Posted by ohiomom 3rdrockfromthesun (My Page) on
    Fri, Jul 13, 12 at 7:30

Big OOPS!

In 2007, Romney had to acknowledge that he had not watched his father march with Martin Luther King Jr., as he had asserted in a nationally televised debate. Romney said at the time that his father had told him that he had marched with King and that he was using the word "saw" in a "figurative sense."

"I did not see it with my own eyes, but I saw him in the sense of being aware of his participation in that great effort," Romney said then.

But historical evidence and news reports showed that George Romney never did march with King. The civil rights leader was supposed to march in Detroit, but he declined to attend.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pinocchio


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  • Posted by vgkg 7-Va Tidewater (My Page) on
    Fri, Jul 13, 12 at 9:28

Mitt Romney 2012
For a New Halluci-Nation


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Has anyone noticed regarding all negative comments made about Romney and tall tale throwing about Romney.....if we just deleted Romney and filled in Obama's name, the shoe would fit perfectly. Just saying.

Okay CW lets try. I try to listen.

Women's Rights are not a problem - Obama?
Switzerland bank account - Obama?
Cayman Island bank account - Obama?
More than 1 Tax Return - Obama?
Defund Planned Parenthood - Obama?
Dog riding on the top of the car - Obama?

Can you help me with the comparisons so I can see where you think Obama is the same as Obama.


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Can you help me with the comparisons so I can see where you think Obama is the same as Obama.

I meant Obama is the same as Romney


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I would suggest that those who are having their fun playing Chase's comments remember that the term "Ugly American" came about for just such behavior.

Clearly Chase understands that unless she holds duel citizenship,she is unable to participate in our election.

Clearly, at least she,herself understands this to be a forum which is inclusive of people from every country in the world.

Clearly she understands that this forum bothers itself primarily with American politics and power.

Clearly she understands that she was giving her opinion in this forum about American politics and clearly everyone else should understand that when she presented it, it was an opinion offered if she participating in this election, this is the person she could never give her vote to.

What is sad is that Chase knows more about our electorial process, our Constitution, our Bill Of Rights and how our entire process works more so than many Americans on this discussion board.

That is the pity of it all. She knows more than a great deal of us - especially the very people who poked fun at her for reading into her comment something she clearly did not intend to say.

They don't know as much about how their own country works and even less about how her country works.


Ugly Americans. One doesn't have to search to find them, they are right there in front of our eyes.


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Step away from the mirror, Marquest.


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Of course on my part it's intentional CW as you can see I'm terribly partisan against one but not necessarily for the other. Had there been no information coming out to draw the Passionately Concerned Comments of forum members I would have dug for it it's how much I thoroughly hate the overall Republican party Hate is such a good word for it.
On case by case events there has been some good but for e overall hate is the name of the game.
Doesn't that sound like a KOCH grass roots Passionately Concerned citizens reacting to news items. (It is news)
Has anyone noticed how passionately Willard was talking about back alley abortions once & how he would never never interfere with choice....the mans a sack (thats a negative comment) he had one passionate position & his current passionate position. They are extreme opposites !

We have a history of everything hes ever spoken to it's consitent the floater (that's a negative comment) the fact is he speaks of China 1 way claims Obama is a Chinese lacky then as an investor invests in the very thing he's tryig to talk smack about. PUHLEASE!
I'm still with RON PAUL on his residency issue he sold his home in Massachusetts then declares his sons address as his residence. (I know so what)
The one that will strangle him is his last residency (oversight) when the Democrats challenged his leaving Mass for UTAH & his taxes listing UTAH as primary residence.
Oh no no no I never retired I was just on a leave of absence
Smiling face back then with that "you silly people how can you have ever mistaken such a thing" (sack2) that's a negative comment about watching him explain away his frequent problems with (where on earth do you live?)
Of course I doubt there will be a response to these specifics but more general comment on our observations about the scum sucking Vulture Capitalist from Just what state now?
Who will be the first to play kick me?


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That's OK Mylab, usually shots like that are taken because the poster simply has nothing of value to add to the conversation.

That being said, I know there are times when I have inadvertently hurt the feelings of people I truly respect on this forum. I try to be very careful to speak of the politics and the system and not of the American people who I greatly admire as a people.

By the way, I can't think of another word right now, "feelings" is not the right word...maybe HG will pipe in and help me.


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By the way, I can't think of another word right now, "feelings" is not the right word...maybe HG will pipe in and help me.

Sensibilities?


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"feelings" is not the right word

Sensitivities?


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nope......

I meant that I offended their national pride.


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Butthurt?

*waits for the slings and arrows*


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Step away from the mirror, Marquest.

House I cannot read your mind you will have to explain your point if you intended to make a point.


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I think House got you and Mylab mixed up.

Don't think it was meant for you.


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I meant that I offended their national pride.

Oh! I criticize too, but I don't recall any anger directed towards me other than those using the cliched "blame America first crowd."


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Oh! I criticize too, but I don't recall any anger directed towards me other than those using the cliched "blame America first crowd."

Yes, but you are American so it is a bit different when I say it or Chase says it.

I know what Chase it saying though. A lot of times it is easier to just type something like "America invaded Iraq" or "Americans are killing Pakistani women and children" and use the all encompassing words. In reality, it is a government who makes those decisions, not the people, and we understand that.

I've done that recently with a derisive remark about Americans and healthcare. I do understand that there ARE Americans who want universal healthcare and understand what it entails... I was speaking more to the fact that the country as a whole, still does not have universal healthcare.


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Hg said; I know what Chase it saying though.

Yes you two always seem to be in tune and frequently post near the same time, however, I would suggest politely that you try to stay on topic instead of diverting the thread.


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Actually HG and I are often not in tune at all......but you think what you want.

As for us frequently posting near the same time..........you're imagining things...isn't that right HG?


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Well, it really wouldn't take a whole lot to find out if, indeed, any two posters are one and the same... one simply has to know a little more than the rudimentary typing and mouse clicking involved in computer operation. But that aside, I've never even considered the fact that Chase might be anyone else here... the style and opinions seem genuine and unique, and if anything, timing might be coincidental.

There are a few, however, that do keep multiple personas, even though this is blatantly against forum rules. I suspect they eventually get found out as administrative operations work from day to day.

The forum IS open to worldwide public comment... though it seems that American political topics are simply too much to resist as issues to crank on and laugh about. I wonder, myself, how the USA fell into such a pit of snakes, thieves, and circus acts.


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JOdi, are you saying that there are people who post fairly frequently in this forum who use different names but are the same person?

I honestly don't know why anyone would think Chase and HG are one and the same, they seem COMPLETELY different to me in style and type of expression.

On the other hand, I honestly don't think I would pick up of a member was using two different names in here and expressing themselves exactly the same - unless it was pointed out and commented upon (as it once was) it wouldn't click with me.

What I can't figure is what anyone would think they get out of such deception. It's not like anyone wins a prize in here, or anyone makes a difference in any way. Unless someone was banned and wanted to still come in and make mischief, maybe then.

Why it would be that important is completely beyond me, who in the world would care so much about a silly forum where nobody really knows anyone else, not really. I could be an 18 year old male who is a male stripper and living on the tips for all anyone could know about me. Who the heck would CARE so much about partaking in this discussion group that they would go so far as to create a brand new fake persona in order to be allowed in? That would be pathetic, really. And sad too, that this forum was so important a feature in their life.

But, I know it is done because it happened with fair frequency on a quit smoking site I visited frequently during the worst of my quit.

That, I could more understand - bad behavior that finally went too far too frequently and ended up banned, and they would come back with a new 'name' until caught, and then do it AGAIN.

But those were a bunch of smoking addicts who were going through a rough time with the quit and were acting out and behaving badly because they felt so badly. Well, I could maybe give it a pass once, after that they are just obnoxious people who apparently don't have the ability to socially interact on or off line.

This is just a little political discussion group with no personal gain either way - a mere diversion to most of us when we take a break. So why- what would be the gain?

Maybe Jodi's husband should be hired for a fee to keep track and make sure that people in the forum discussions aren't doubling up their names or coming back in somehow when banned. I'd hire him if I were the boss! ;)


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  • Posted by ohiomom 3rdrockfromthesun (My Page) on
    Sat, Jul 14, 12 at 15:48

I do know of one poster with a "split personality", although there are probably others ... as Jodik points out you are not as anonymous online as some would like to believe. Why someone/s would do this only they can answer.


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Yup, I've wondered about it too. Frankly, I don't mind.


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Posted by lily316 z5PA (My Page) on Thu, Jul 12, 12 at 13:31

Romney is a strange duck. Very odd and uncomfortable unless he's with the very rich and privileged. He HAD to go to the NAACP convention because he was invited. To do less would open him to criticism. BUT he baited the audience so he could show clips to his WHITE rich followers how he put them in their place. It is NOT Obama care, it's the Affordable healthcare act. Did the people call it Romneycare in MA?
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I have heard the word racist thrown around so much on this forum its become commonplace and predictable but I just read all of the post on this page and this post by lily stood out and above all others.
I find this is the only post even worth responding to because the WHITE in rich followers was capitalized and the inference Romney would "go back" to these same WHITE rich followers with the clip to show WHITE rich followers how he put the black NAACP in their place.

Any other post in this Romney topic directly asking me for a response is the same ole....my guy is smarter than your guy stuff......except for lily's remark.

I am a follower of Romney and I found your remark very offensive and racist.
Most remarks on this forum are not racist remarks per se
(as when someone says Obama was elected because he is blk)but your remark was racist lily.
Your disdain for white people came through loud and clear.

Romney did not deserve that remark . I have never read anything about him to have given the impression he is racist.


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as when someone says Obama was elected because he is blk)

What you said cw is the ultimate racist remark and if you really believe it you should be ashamed of yourself.


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I have never read anything about him to have given the impression he is racist.

The criticism is that Romney sounded the dog whistle to appeal to a certain GOP constituency aka pandering to the base. The charge would be that Romney is cynical and would exploit the prejudices of others for his own gain.

In 2008 the dog whistle gambit was handed off the Sarah Palin so Senator McCain could take the high road while receiving the benefits from her actions. And then the McCain camp kicked her to the curb - calling her a Wasilla hillbilly.

It's a pattern that fits in with the GOP's history of using the 'southern strategy.'


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I can't be racist for slamming white people, CW, because duh..I AM white. Get it? And I DO disdain the white rich 1%- ers who gave Romney $120 million in June. Always helps to have Wall Street in your pocket.


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Posted by jerzeegirl 9 (My Page) on Sat, Jul 14, 12 at 17:12

City: ""as when someone says Obama was elected because he is blk)""


jerzee: "What you said cw is the ultimate racist remark and if you really believe it you should be ashamed of yourself."


Why should City be ashamed of herself? Because she pointed out that lily made Romney out to be a racist in that post? jerzee, I won't be one of those posters who tells you to look it up. According to the dictionary, racism is:

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

Stating that someone is black is not being a racist, nor is saying that because that person is black, people voted for that black person. Now, if you are saying that people voted for President Obama BECAUSE they believe that blacks are inherently superior, well then those people who voted for President Obama because they believe that his blackness makes him superior ARE racists.

Let me know if you still do not understand what racism is and I will try to explain it to you in different words.


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Yes you two always seem to be in tune and frequently post near the same time, however, I would suggest politely that you try to stay on topic instead of diverting the thread.

Funny, If that's the new law around here you better start policing every other person and every other thread on the forum.

Or is it only me and Chase who have to follow that rule?

(Or should I just say "me" since chase and I are actually the same person?)


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This has to be the most annoying character over here.


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Romney as lucifer? Talk about an exaggeration!


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Posted by krycek1984 6a/Cleveland (My Page) on Sat, Jul 14, 12 at 18:40

"Romney as lucifer? Talk about an exaggeration!"

Now THAT would be a Hot Topic, LOL. ;-D


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lily please go back and read your post.
I won't retype your comment because it is there for all to read.

It doesn't matter if you are red yellow blk or white, the remark you made about Romney was racist because you capitalized the WHITE so we would be sure and get the message that he was going to go back with a video to show his WHITE followers how he put THEM in their place.

That is probably personally one of the uncomfortable posts I have read slamming Romney.
Romney didn't deserve that and his political supporters didn't either.

We sure are becoming immune when noone except a few noticed that very ugly unfounded accusation.


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elvis: Put away your dictionary. That gambit is stale. This topic has been discussed before and I offered my opinion at that time. If cw wants to double down on her outrageous statement (since this isn't the first time she has said it), she can be my guest. You know what I think and I have nothing more to say.


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Posted by jerzeegirl 9 (My Page) on Sat, Jul 14, 12 at 19:53

"elvis: Put away your dictionary. That gambit is stale. This topic has been discussed before and I offered my opinion at that time. If cw wants to double down on her outrageous statement (since this isn't the first time she has said it), she can be my guest. You know what I think and I have nothing more to say."

Nice. So you inferred City is a racist for the statement in question, knowing full well that was not the case. Nice. I believe you when you say you have nothing more to say. You've just said it. Pity.


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This isn't the first time she made that statement. I guess she can't speak for herself so she needs you. Nice.


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Posted by jerzeegirl 9 (My Page) on Sat, Jul 14, 12 at 20:16

"This isn't the first time she made that statement. I guess she can't speak for herself so she needs you. Nice."

Maybe you're right, jerzee; maybe City does need me to speak for her once in a while. She's way too nice when you hammer on her. And if she ever did put her foot wrong here in HT, she shouldn't have to pay for that indefinitely.

Pretty much everyone lives in a glass house.


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I am not one to make anyone pay indefinitely for what they said, but her remark is kind of unforgettable and, well, offensive. That being said, she does have the choice to stop repeating it, which would make me totally forget that she said it in the first place.


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Fair enough in my book. Thank you, Jerzee.


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Posted by citywoman2012 none (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 14, 12 at 19:00

"lily please go back and read your post.
I won't retype your comment because it is there for all to read.

It doesn't matter if you are red yellow blk or white, the remark you made about Romney was racist because you capitalized the WHITE so we would be sure and get the message that he was going to go back with a video to show his WHITE followers how he put THEM in their place.

That is probably personally one of the uncomfortable posts I have read slamming Romney.
Romney didn't deserve that and his political supporters didn't either.

We sure are becoming immune when noone except a few noticed that very ugly unfounded accusation."

Guess you don't like me either, just read my description of the Stones song above interspersed with the verses and these threads....

High school

Is Romney a psychopath?

I have not liked Romney since he firt landed on the scene and any new information about him has only given me more reason to believe he would be the worst thing to happen to this nation. Sorry for refering to you since you usually don't like people refering to you, back on ignore now as I agree with Lily but choose to usually just pass over those things.


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He remembers seeing something that never happened & feels so proud about it anyway. Sloppy guy verysloppy & when called on it your response is pathetic & you get a passfromyour supporters rather than be called an outrageous liar. Or would you folks who aren't bothered by such fotherall prefer thinking of it as a hallucination.


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Don...I didn't say I disliked anyone and yes, I did read your post but since you didn't write the song, you don't have to be held accountable for it :)

I don't mind anyone addressing me don.
I just don't like to be addressed like I don't have a face
and I'm not a real person.

Sometimes I wish we had to post a picture of ourselves.
Wonder if it would make a difference if we knew the face we were slinging ugliness at.


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I don't know CW. If I posted a picture of me, would you stop with the nastiness?


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My picture has been on the conversations side for 5 years.


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Where? How do I see it?


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Lily, I honestly had never thought I was being nasty to you . Its just not in my nature to be nasty to anyone but do you mean the remark about Romney's white supporters?

If I misunderstood that and thats not what you meant then I owe you an apology for getting it wrong.

Its easy on this forum to misunderstand anothers thought process since we all translate and read differently.

Its no excuse but its also easy to get snarky back when you think you are being snarked at.
It does get silly on here sometimes and we all are guilty .


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Agree, CW.


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