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Posted by rob333 (My Page) on Mon, Jul 18, 11 at 14:47
| "Police say Sean Hoare, the whistleblower reporter who alleged widespread hacking at the News of the World, has been found dead."
??????!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe it. The article goes on to say it's not considered suspicious. Not suspicious, but it sure is awfully convenient. Wonder how much more he knew? |
Here is a link that might be useful: AP article
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Mon, Jul 18, 11 at 14:52
| Yes, how he died would be pertinent. |
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| Sounds like a Le Carre plot. Dan |
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| He died of a "fitful" liver. He had proclaimed he was no longer drinking or smoking, but many had seen him doing so, and that's how it's not suspicious. It's still really odd timing. |
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| Timely. Cause of death is treated as "unexplained" still. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Guardian Update.
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| If there ever was a suspicious death, this is it. This whole scandal has gone to a new level. |
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| It's not impossible to murder a person and have it look like an accident or from natural causes... so... Very suspicious, indeed. |
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| Suspicious or coincidence? Or convenient? Give it a week or two. |
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| There's another pretty suspicious death around here... |
Here is a link that might be useful: Suicide? I think not...
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| Ms Peacock in the drawing room with a candle stick. Curiouser & curioser & Rebekah's husband trying to retrieve a bag out of the garbage with what may be his wife's computer. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Curious
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| I always felt Darothy Kilgallen was murdered, too. |
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"Posted by jodik (My Page) on
Mon, Jul 18, 11 at 19:11 It's not impossible to murder a person and have it look like an accident or from natural causes... so... Very suspicious, indeed." Agreed....Anybody know the whereabouts of Bill and Hillary? |
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| Read the news... they pop up very frequently, Bill usually in talks with foreign nations. |
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No Jodik you don't understand the Clinton's secretly moydid a hole bucnha fowwwwlks.
I'm amazed how how uniformed we all are on this THANKS BIG PAPI. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Deadly duo
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| Silver, that is suspicious. The same article that says her hands and feet were bound, say she was found hung and that it's being considered a possible suicide. Just how does one tie their hands behind their back and hang themselves? The better question is why? |
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| Oh my, labrea... well, given the source, it's not surprising I wasn't knee deep in this particular... knowledge... and I use the term as loosely as I can. Good grief. |
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| Moydid I tells ya! _______________________________________________________________________ Seriously--and what's with the child that fell down the stairs? His history of substance abuse made Hoare even more vulnerable to any fishy stunt. Whistleblowing is a dangerous thing...whatever you do, look behind you. And stay the hell away from small aircraft. |
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| That "knowledge" was front page news for years in the mid nineties. Vince Foster ring a bell? |
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| Bill Clinton has nothing to do with this. What a sad attempt at diversion yet no comments on any of the threads about Murdoch or what they are accused of doing. |
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Who is surprised?
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| No particular comments to make, I'm not surprised. This news organization just got caught, I have no doubts others do the same thing. Whether the top brass actually knew the despicable invasions of privacy is one thing, but with multiple, long term activity, it's obvious there was at the very least a tacit approval from the top. The top of an organization sets the tone and expectations. People will be held responsible and in fact are being held responsible. |
Who knows who cares?
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| Maddie--the surprise is in Jodik's response, "Oh my, labrea... well, given the source, it's not surprising I wasn't knee deep in this particular... knowledge... and I use the term as loosely as I can. Good grief." That comment prompted my response that this information isn't something that has been hidden and relegated to a politically motivated hate site that one just doesn't happen to frequent. It was front page news for years and on news programs and in all major newspapers across the country, and more. That's why I mentioned Vince Foster, surely that rang a bell. Maybe Jodik truly had never heard about all of this, who knows? |
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| Vince Foster's suicide was news. Reverend Falwell and those of his ilk were pushing an alleged murder by the Clintons - and reaping profits from video sales on the subject. One can be aware of the suicide and have little knowledge of the right-wing media circus/attack on the Clintons. Just imagine if Hillary Clinton had won the Democratic primary and was elected president. The entire drama could have been recycled - a ready-made smear machine in place and primed for November 5, 2008. |
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| Ignore the damage controlls. And now, back to the subject: In the saga of the phone-hacking scandal, he distinguished himself by being the first former NoW journalist to come out on the record, telling the New York Times last year that his former friend and editor, Andy Coulson, had actively encouraged him to hack into voicemail. That took courage. But he had a particularly powerful motive for speaking. He knew how destructive the News of the World could be, not just for the targets of its exposés, but also for the ordinary journalists who worked there, who got caught up in its remorseless drive for headlines. He knew about the risk. Chances are, he might have sealed his fate. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Source.
Another mysterious death
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| Dr. David Kelly came immediately to mind when I heard of Sean Hoare's death. |
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| Dr. David Kelly came immediately to mind when I heard of Sean Hoare's death. Paul Wellstone. Mike Connell. And, the minute I read Silver's link, the DC Madam. To name but a few more. |
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| Aren't they usually/always, Marshallz? Wouldn't be a Hot Topic without a pitch at diversion, would it. |
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| "Just imagine if Hillary Clinton had won the Democratic primary and was elected president." Don't I wish it....she'd have been a way better President than the current a$$hat in office. |
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| Papi, how would she be better than Obama? Since we're completely off-topic anyhow. I at least understand where you're coming from, sort of, since I too am a conservative. Honestly, I'm not the least bit interested in someone you just alluded to being a cover up murderer, earlier in this thread, being president. So how did you go from one way to another? Is Obama a worse "cover up murderer"? |
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| Yawn... I mean how interesting Papi! Ever get a note from hot topics about substituting symbols in words you aren't permitted to post here? |
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| I've always thought Paul Wellstone was killed. |
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| "Yawn... I mean how interesting Papi! Ever get a note from hot topics about substituting symbols in words you aren't permitted to post here?" No....(snort) So tell me, did you ever get a nastygram for equating fellow posters to human excrement? |
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| So Big Papi, do you still have your money on Newt for President 2012? As I recall, you declared his victory right here in Hot Topics not too long ago. |
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| Newt Who? I told his people when they called over a year ago he should
stick to writing books. |
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Human lol never human! floaters & almost always reserved for politicians
I Thought it was the fig king who had the Tea Tsunami & Newt.
Now Newt certainly floats but that's because he's an effete gas bag! |
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| I doubt very much that other news organizations wire tap phones. |
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Fancy some silence?
Earlier today, Scotland Yard arrested five more individuals, including a police officer, in the ever-growing News Corporation phone hacking scandal in the United Kingdom. While previous arrests focused on phone hacking at the now-closed News of the World tabloid, today's arrests are related to allegations of phone hacking at Rupert Murdoch's flagship tabloid, the Sun. According to the BBC, those arrested today include: "Graham Dudman, a former managing editor; Fergus Shanahan, a former deputy editor; Mike Sullivan, the paper's crime editor; and Chris Pharo, the paper's head of news." 13, and counting. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Update.
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| Oh your just a leftie, liberal who hate good reporting & fair & balanced Companies ! |
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| Ninamarie, if I were a world figure or celebrity etc. I would very much worry about the real possibility of any and all news agencies illegally invading my privacy. I remember the case where Nichole Kidman found a listening device capable of picking up conversations inside her home, it was located in the bushes outside her home in Australia - I was repulsed by the idea, and though I'm sure this was done by a junk magazine, it is probably not so uncommon a sort of activity by so called "respected" news agencies, especially if it's a story of terrible corruption of a sort where they figure the ends justify the means. After all, they are willing to go to jail rather than reveal their sources. I used to respect that, but now I'm not so sure that would be the case, I'd wonder now if it could be they were protecting themselves from being prosecuted because of an illegal activity, even if the informatin they gathered did a lot of good. There are no 'good guys' and 'bad guys' anymore, I don't think. The lines have become too blurred, and if they are sure they can get away with it, a whole lot of 'good guys' might very easily justify dishonest or illegal activity. From the powerful to the common person I think this has become a common way of thinking. We justify our bad behavior in our own heads. |
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| I was wondering how this ended up at the top again. Wow! Thanks for letting me know maddie. Fishy when it's one or two, but the tip of the iceberg in other cases. |
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Hi mylab. My point is that there are ethical news services that do not wiretap. Oc course there are good guys and bad guys, even in journalism.
But I would be suspicious of any newspaper, radio statio, tv station, etc. owned by Rupert Murdoch. |
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| I think Mylab makes a very good point as it pertains to our societal and cultural blending and excusing of the good and bad, when it comes to morality. I'm just glad that there are still people in this world unwilling to sacrifice their principles... or make personal sacrifices for the good of mankind, no matter the cost. From a technological angle, it's almost moot now... our anonymity is about gone... we're being watched and listened to on a fairly constant basis... there are security cameras everywhere, etc... |
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| ...our societal and cultural blending and excusing of the good and bad, when it comes to morality. With the advent of the Internet, I see this more and more. For me, it's become unsettling. -Ron- |
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| Yer welcome Rob. Gee it sure is quiet in here... Jude Law's phone has been hacked, on American soil -- (shamelessly stealing Joe's lines here) the floater has landed. |
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Tue, Jan 31, 12 at 16:28
| What I don't buy is the idea that widespread and institutionalized unethical behavior is a new thing. When was this golden time when the world was ruled and run by angelic and benevolent souls? What's new is the public is better informed. |
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What I buy is the idea that one man - Rupert Murdoch- became so powerful that he was able to buy politicians and the police force. The mistake, and the danger to a free press and democracy, was allowing any one person to become that powerful. Now, one individual has the power and the means to corrupt other institutions and other humans.
I doubt we are more corrupt than we used to be. But Murdoch's people were able to use modern communications in a way that had not been so possible before.
I have always believed that to corrupt a society, or a political system, it is necessary to start with the press. |
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Today's arrests:
The Sun's deputy editor Geoff Webster, picture editor John Edwards, chief reporter John Kay, chief foreign correspondent Nick Parker and reporter John Sturgis were those arrested, News International CEO Tom Mockridge said in a message emailed to staff. Plus: A 39-year-old female employee at Britain's defence ministry, a 36-year-old male member of the armed forces and a 39-year-old serving police officer with Surrey Police, were also arrested Saturday, police said. All eight suspects were later released on bail. 21, and counting. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Update.
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[Hey Rob it's me again...:)]
LONDON - Former News International executive Rebekah Brooks and her racehorse trainer husband Charlie were arrested Tuesday in dawn raids that also netted four other suspects in the spreading phone hacking scandal. Police said the six people were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. The charge is an indication that investigators may be focusing on a possible coverup of the scope of phone hacking rather than the illegal hacking itself. It was the most arrests in a single day since "Operation Weeting" - as the police investigation into phone hacking is known - began arresting reporters, senior news executives, police officers and others suspected of criminal acts.
19, and counting. Wait! Why would they arrest Brooks' husband?
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Here is a link that might be useful: Update.
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| Wait, again! 19
27, and counting. Imagine, for a second there...if those arrests were NBC staff. |
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| I'm just now seeing this. Whoa. shaking my head!!!!!!!!!!! |
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"At the time, Murdoch's executives claimed the wrongdoing was limited to one scurrilous reporter and an unprincipled private detective, both of whom were jailed."
Sorry I took so long big one I never did a nasty gram for the expression floaters or scat head did you ever get one for calling Maxine Waters POS? TSSSSSSK
Every dog finds his hydrant I guess the US can possible haul Rupert in on US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. It netted a small fortune from Halliburton $569 million small potatoes wasn't even worth discussing when it was posted on here I guess. I'm going to need to get me one of those there SOCK PUPPETS for the post I wan't the polite ladies who lunch crowd to sniff at. I sure hope non of them lost anything over that Halliburton crime.
A free press seems to cost a lot of money & may cost some of these stinkers (a polite cultural expression for excrement or something rotten) I wonder would they have leniency on Rupert because of his age they certainly didn't on Albert Stanley former US CEO of Halliburton just a few weeks ago he got 30 months Jail Time HUZZAH! He's almost 70 & had to pay 10 Million ins restitution to his old Company, anyone ever meet this guy I know a few of you must be oilish.
I digress Rupert will probably get away as the statute of limitations is rather meager for The US Corrupt Practices Act 5 years, really sometimes it takes many years for this poop to come to light! |
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| I'd love to start a garage band and call it The Fitful Livers. |
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| LOL! ______________________ they certainly didn't on Albert Stanley former US CEO of Halliburton just a few weeks ago he got 30 months Jail Time HUZZAH! He's almost 70 & had to pay 10 Million ins restitution to his old Company, anyone ever meet this guy I know a few of you must be oilish. Now whose pockets did he fill?
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| The nifty thing is that in the end, there's always a trail to follow... whether it be merely paper, or paper money... I find it more than a little odd when witnesses or whistle blowers suddenly meet their demise... even when they do have other issues... the timing is just too perfect. |
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