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How big of a political junkie are you?

Posted by tobr24u z6 RI (My Page) on
Wed, Sep 26, 12 at 4:23

Do you watch the shows, read the books and magazines , listen to talk radio, even make calls, and perhaps work for candidates or run yourself? I find , upon reflection, that I am one more ever now and it is probably due to this forum...


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No, no, no, no, and no. I admit that I've become a lot more active and politically aware within recent years... say, the last decade or so... but I've generally considered my duty as citizen covered by voting, paying property and other taxes, by writing representatives when issues come up, and by how I treat the environment I come into contact with... and have never considered myself political candidacy material. And then, of course, we were active with regard to local education when our children were younger... so, we did take a more active role locally.

But overall, no... a political career or delving too deeply into campaigning were never things I considered, or had time to be involved in. I have not been in a position where I live a life of leisure and have such time to give, nor is it my area of expertise. I've had my hands full raising a family and trying to stay afloat.

I find most politically charged books and other media to be biased, and am very choosy about the books I read and the shows I do watch. I prefer a wider take on world events and history, so I read from varied sources, mostly news related.

Personally, I find politics today to be rather abhorrent, considering the time and money and all the goofballs within the political arena. I like to keep up on current events, but I'm not so involved that I would ever want to throw my hat into the ring, not that I could.

Though it's not the system it was intended to be, I'm too old to change the world now. ;-)

If anything, I think it better left to younger, fresher minds to solve our worldly issues. We are, after all, yesterday's generation... and I think our nation contains a youth that is up to the challenges that lay ahead.


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The older jury is really out on your last statement...


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I did not have a snowball chance in H to not be a political junkie. Polotics was dinner conversation. I have no idea why we were not elite by any means test or had any family in any political position. But I remember the Eisenhower discussions and had no idea why they were talking about someone so much that we never had at the diner table.

Kennedy started my habit. I knew everything about Jackie Kennedy I could get my hands on to read. How she laid out her stockings and smoked Salem cigarettes. I was in awe of all the Kennedy's. I was too young to vote for him but cried when he was assassinated. I remember what class I was in what time they came into the room and told the class.

So I am and have always been a political junkie. I read everything. I am involved with two groups to get out the vote.


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On a scale of 1 to 10 - about 1 at the national level.

I never watch political news on television and we rarely discuss national politics in our household. I just find politics and most political junkies we know very boring. The constant and growing mud-slinging is a real turn-off as well.

When we have guests, we have a no politics discussion policy.

I'm more into local politics - mostly issues that affect us directly - property taxes, fees, schools, school mergers, assessments, reassessments, zoning, codes, commercial/industrial growth, block grants, infrastructure - water/sewer/gas roads, contracts up for bid etc.


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With so much of the surroundings National Park, BLM, National Forest and Tribal lands, there is a considerable impact on the local economy when decisions are make in Washington, so I pay a fair amount of attention to what our senators and representatives do. Or more accurately, don't do.

With the largest source of air pollution in the continental US just 40 miles south of here, I pay attention to who runs the EPA, who interferes, who wants to get rid of 'job killing regulations' and build yet another coal-fired power plant next door.

But more emphasis is on local elections, where a small population means that each vote really does make a difference for school board, bond issues, county commissioners, District Attorney, etc, and what they do in office directly and immediately affects the way I live.


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What do you mean, "the jury is out"? Only time will tell, of course, but...

I see so many young folks who are very active in changing our world, whether it's from an angle of conservation and energy, or through the political arena, or through any number of other outlets, and I don't think we can count them out. There are many who see the mistakes our generation made, and they want to make a difference. At some point, our time is over... and it's their time.

Some people might view the younger generation as useless... but they're not. I see it within my own kids, who are adults now. They aren't happy about the inheritance we're leaving them... a polluted planet in constant war mode, with greed and gluttony taking the lead over integrity and moral values... they see it all clearly.


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Locally one of our best Senators was a Republican H. John Heinz III. Today's Republican would throw him out of the party. He was so caring he could have been a social worker. He would be ashamed of his party today.

He was old money which makes a difference. New money people seem to be afraid of losing the few pennies they managed to acquire.


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No, No, NO. I pay attention but refuse to encourage the bustards.


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Not now.

I used to be, starting with my grandmother--a lifelong Democrat, who I think now would be a Republican.

I recall going with her to vote for JFK, I remember staying glued to her television watching Teddy duck cameras after he drove off the bridge with Mary Jo.

In the early 80s I never missed the Sunday news shows and knew the names of all of the players. I recall liking Joe Biden at the time.

The 2000, then the 2004 election, with all of the sniping and numerous cable shows always stirring up something, began to have an effect on me and I pretty much gave it up in 2004 when we retired, with the exception of reading here.

These days my television is hardly ever on; if it is it's on silent and on a science or travel show. I do make a point to watch news every day or two for at least ten or fifteen minutes to catch up. I read the WSJ, the local paper, and The Week. I let my subscription go of Newsweek. I check a few online news websites and if a political topic interests me, I pursue it by reading up on it.

My perspective has changed in that the nastiness of politics from Washington, at least on a federal level, has spilled over into the news media and certainly on this forum.

One can choose to spend their life insulting other people for the way they think and disparaging them for it, or they can appreciate that we live in a country of freedoms that allow us to have different opinions and freely express them, and respect people that have a different opinion.

I choose the latter and I am a happier and a better person because of it.

Life is too short to spend time sniping at people because of the way they see things and worrying about politics.

I will never be a political "junkie" again.

There are too many other wonderful, interesting and more worthwhile avenues to pursue.


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I'm a drop in & out International politics is so often overlooked in the country until there's a major upset.
The fact that 63 percent of the polled republicans & 17 % of Democrat still believe there were WMD in IRAQ hints about the control of information in our country!


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I've even lost interest in much local politics as many regions are beyond help.

I've avoided much political discussion as it tends to attract a lot of drama queens, control freaks, hotheads, mean, nasty, rude, sarcastic and easily offended types.

I watch some local politics on public access, but only for the comedy.

I often have my televisions and computers tuned to CNBC, but primarily for stock, commodity and tech info.

These days I tend to vote with my feet, wallet, actions and non actions.


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When I was 4 or 5 I was sitting on the stairs watching the Meet and Greet party at my parent's home when the Governor came down the stairs and tripped over me. It was very embarrassing.

In grade school I forgot my mother would be working at the polls and wouldn't be there when I came home for lunch. I was in tears by the time my father got home and fed me hot dogs then gave me a ride back to school so I wouldn't be late. I never forgot again. From then on I was expected to take snacks to the polls for the workers. They all got to know me very well.

I was frequently sick when I was a child and during one bout my mother answered the door to a maid in full uniform with a tray of delicacies her employer, the Mayor thought would tempt me. My throat was too sore to eat a bite of it.

I still remember my sisters being angry that I kept the radio tuned to the conventions and kept stopping to listen to the speeches when I was supposed to be helping clean the sun porch. That was Eisenhower and Stevenson in 1952. My ninth birthday was three days after the election. My parents went to the Inaugural Ball and I remember the dress mother wore.

I remember the photo of Stevenson with the hole in his shoe and the shock that someone who was divorced would actually run for the presidency and the comments about the book his ex-wife wrote about him. I don't remember though if the photo was in Life Or Look. Probably Life.

I was sponsored by a Young Republican Club to attend a GOP Youth Training Camp and was involved in running a mock election at 15. Our candidate won. I ran the ad campaign and was one of the 4 campers awarded a "cabinet post" for my work. I taught about 20 people to make professional looking signs and wrote ads while trying to help write a platform. We were taught an amazing amount of stuff about government and elections.

Sorority rush was a bit embarrassing because they wanted me to be a hostess at a Democrat dinner and my parents were very involved in Republican politics. I was worried someone would recognize me and of course someone did and kept trying to get me to sit at one of the tables. They apparently thought I was switching parties and was a guest.

I think half the invitations to my wedding were to politicians. DH and I were living in Washington when Kennedy was killed. I was working at a bank and was the first there to get the news. I could barely speak to tell my boss what had happened. The whole town shut down. DH wound up escorting foreign dignitaries to Arlington.

It was a long time before I realized that not everyone was as familiar with politics and politicians as my family was. When you grow up with it as closely as I did it just seems strange to not be aware of what is happening at all levels. Since DH's family is mostly Democrat, I try to observe the old bromide about what not to discuss in polite company but it does get difficult at times. I guess you would say I am a junkie but not an active one.


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Marquest..you're right about John Heinz. He was a socialist in some ways and the only Republican in my life I have voted for. PA lost a wonderful Senator in that plane crash. He could have be a Senator for life. Today's GOP would hate him and paint him to the left of Obama.

How big of a political junkie am I? On 1-10, a 10. I did not get it from my "severely" conservative Republican parents where my father once called his Democrat BIL a communist(not to his face). In college I turned liberal and had arguments all thru the 60's and 70's with my father. I worked in every democratic presidential election starting with Carter. I live and breathe politics and get my fix every night on MSNBC.


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I will never be a political "junkie" again.
There are too many other wonderful, interesting and more worthwhile avenues to pursue.

Yes, it wasn't that importation of a fight you have waged day in and day out.
Na, on to other things now..
I call B.S.
It sounds like you have been reading the polls and are mentally preparing yourself for defeat.
The fact is, you aren't going anywhere, regardless of the outcome of the election.


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That's just it, Joe... and why it's so imperative to view the larger picture and insert all the puzzle pieces, oneself. Yes, one must go out of their way to find those pieces, but the alternative is just staring at the same local Fox channel night after night... which won't fill in the necessary gaps. It only leads people down a predesignated path of controlled propaganda.

I'd like very much to form my own opinions, based on the truth, and not be told how to think. I'm amazed those kinds of channels maintain a viewing audience. After doing a little research, and then seeing how they cut and paste and edit the context to fit their agenda, it just blows my mind that people still buy into such garbage.


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Today's GOP would hate him and paint him to the left of Obama.

Yes Lily the tea critter would have ran him out of Washington. He believed in science he could not be a Republican.


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Posted by heri_cles 10 (My Page) on
Wed, Sep 26, 12 at 12:26

I will never be a political "junkie" again.
There are too many other wonderful, interesting and more worthwhile avenues to pursue.

Yes, it wasn't that importation of a fight you have waged day in and day out.

Na, on to other things now..
I call B.S.
It sounds like you have been reading the polls and are mentally preparing yourself for defeat.
The fact is, you aren't going anywhere, regardless of the outcome of the election.

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Reading this forum and participating is hardly being a "political junkie."

If Romney doesn't win, Romney is defeated, I'm not.
I'm a registered Independent.
If I supported the Republican party, I'd be a Republican.

I'm going to be fine no matter who is president.

Four more years of Obama is either going to prove what a mistake his reelection will be, or an opportunity for him to make the economy and country better, or four more years of the status quo--high unemployment, no jobs, and out of control spending and high gasoline prices, and businesses sitting on capital.

But my life isn't going to change much, other than paying more taxes, and I have control over how much money I choose to make or not, so I'm not losing any control if Obama is reelected.

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Just can't help saying something to me, can you?

Anymore lewd comments lurking in you about me, Heri?

BS back at you, particularly with your accusations of racism at every word.


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It's very cyclical for me. I pay very close attention and read everything I can during Presidential election cycles. I do vote in local elections for school budgets, etc. But, in between, I admit I'm not as intense. I still follow the goings on in the world - weekend delivery of New York Times and lots of on line sites - but not with the same can't get enough information feeling I have during Presidential elections.

I admit I don't volunteer for candidates very often. Just not enough hours in the day for work (minimum 12 hours of commuting and work), family time, housework and personal interests.

demi - do I notice a change in your tune? Before it was definitely going to be a disaster to have Obama re-elected. Now it's either a disaster, or maybe not.


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No, I think it will be a disaster for many decades if Obama is elected, and maybe a disaster if Romney is, although I believe there is definitely less of a chance of that if Romney is elected.

But if Obama is elected, I, and my family will be okay.

I do not believe that is true for a lot of people that right now can't find a job or pay for gasoline and their bills.


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Anymore lewd comments lurking in you about me, Heri?

I never made a "lewd" comment at you. You must be referring to an analogy I made about posing nude which was clearly made in jest.
You took advantage by reporting me to the moderator in an unsuccessful attempt to have me banned from the forum. How pathetic, but that is how you roll here. Your posts are often mean spirited and provocative, yet you cannot accept criticism of your opinions without getting overly defensive about them.
You counterattack with reverse accusations of racism, when race has not even been mentioned.

Now tme will tell if you stop posting at this political forum in the same provocative, aggressive and sometime arrogant way that you have in the past after the election, or if you go on to more positive things, as you claim you will.

I think you are not going anywhere or changing your mojo one bit.
You are already backing off your claim that you aren't going to be a political junkie and diverting attention by attacking me.
We shall see who the hypocrite is after the election if Romney loses.
We shall see if you fade from this political forum or continue with your Right Wing aggression toward Democratic leaning posters.


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This isn't a political forum. Could you partisan junkies go away? Maybe that way we could solve the world's real problems.


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Sleepless, just wanted to thank you for a lovely post. It's a great story; brought me back. I remembered playing on the monkey bars in the school playground as the election was heating up; most all the kids were chanting "Kennedy, Kennedy", and I kept shouting "Nixon, Nixon" because that's what my parents wanted. Ah, we were so innocent and there was no internet...

That's why elections seem so nasty now. It's the internet. Well, that, and lack of good manners.

If Brown is serious, it's a good point. It's gotten hard to post about anything here without it being politicized. I wonder if GW would consider a forum just for political discussions.


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This is forum on current events, i,e,

"If you have an opinion on today's current events or other hot topics, feel free to discuss it here. These topics tend to appeal to articulate people with strong opinions and often these debates are sometimes heated. "

If you can't take that heat, or cannot articulate your thoughts, or want to opt out of political conversations, there are umpteen forums at GW and who knows how many on the net for you.

Now I wonder if those of you who all of a sudden express a desire to gain some religion about your -partisanship , how about turning off the Foxbox tonight and then tomorrow, turning off the AM Righty talk on your car radio?

I know Obama has a slight lead in the polls but all this crying and whining even before the election? Wow.


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Posted by heri_cles 10 (My Page) on
Wed, Sep 26, 12 at 17:57

Anymore lewd comments lurking in you about me, Heri?

I never made a "lewd" comment at you. You must be referring to an analogy I made about posing nude which was clearly made in jest.
You took advantage by reporting me to the moderator in an unsuccessful attempt to have me banned from the forum. How pathetic, but that is how you roll here.

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That is an outright LIE.

I have told you I did not report you, but later wish I had when you continued to insult me.

I did not.

If someone contacted you about it, then it wasn't me.


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"Not now.
I used to be, starting with my grandmother--a lifelong Democrat, who I think now would be a Republican."

I'm sorry Demi, but that line does not make your grandmother sound very good. I am sure that she was a wonderful person, but if you consider the history of both parties. They split about the timeframe that you are talking about. The Southern Dems used to be the racists, and now most of your racists would tend to vote Rep. and many are Southern. You gave no reason why your grandmother would now be a Republican.

Seriously, that does not sound very good. Your Southern grandmother used to be a Democrat which would be, let's say, sixty years ago. That is well within the Southern Democrat (Jim Crow, segregation) racist period. Now the South is predominately represented by Republicans. I trust that you have misrepresented her.

I hope so at least.


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"I wonder if GW would consider a forum just for political discussions."

Man, that would be great. I promise I would never go there.


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I've never given any thought to the idea of being a 'political junkie' and am not sure how broad a definition you would give 'politics.'

The 'insider baseball' aspect doesn't particularly interest me, but the underlying currents and assumptions around political issues do. I guess that I'm most interested in what Professor Peter Dale Scott calls 'deep politics' - the covert actions undertaken by intelligence agencies that result in coups, destabilization, disinformation, and otherwise interferring in the domestic politics of other countries in the interest of maintaing the U.S. empire. Some of this was revealed during the run up to Iraq invasion - manufactured intelligence, the spreading of U.S. intelligence to supportive allies and then citing it as new evidence, the purchase of alliances for the Coalition of the Willing (or whatever the heck the Bush Administration called the rag tag assembly of nations supporting its preemptive war), the 'sexing up' of evidence, the expatriate Iraqi toadies at the U.S. $$ trough supplying whatever the Bush Administration needed, paid informants, and all that was at odds with the public narrative about the idealistic reasons for waging an illegal preemptive war.


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frank writes,

I'm sorry Demi, but that line does not make your grandmother sound very good. I am sure that she was a wonderful person, but if you consider the history of both parties. They split about the timeframe that you are talking about. The Southern Dems used to be the racists, and now most of your racists would tend to vote Rep. and many are Southern. You gave no reason why your grandmother would now be a Republican.

Seriously, that does not sound very good. Your Southern grandmother used to be a Democrat which would be, let's say, sixty years ago. That is well within the Southern Democrat (Jim Crow, segregation) racist period. Now the South is predominately represented by Republicans. I trust that you have misrepresented her.

I hope so at least

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Wow, calling Demi's deceased grandmother a racist. I think this is a new low for this forum.

I guess that's the brain washing for this election for the dem's. Every chance you get call them racist and mention that Jim Crow fella. LOL


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You are right GGM, southern racism never existed. Also, the timeframes that I suggested must be wrong, right? Now, tell me how my timeframe is wrong.


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Posted by frank_il z5Illinois (My Page) on
Wed, Sep 26, 12 at 20:59

"Not now.
I used to be, starting with my grandmother--a lifelong Democrat, who I think now would be a Republican."

I'm sorry Demi, but that line does not make your grandmother sound very good. I am sure that she was a wonderful person, but if you consider the history of both parties. They split about the timeframe that you are talking about. The Southern Dems used to be the racists, and now most of your racists would tend to vote Rep. and many are Southern. You gave no reason why your grandmother would now be a Republican.

Seriously, that does not sound very good. Your Southern grandmother used to be a Democrat which would be, let's say, sixty years ago. That is well within the Southern Democrat (Jim Crow, segregation) racist period. Now the South is predominately represented by Republicans. I trust that you have misrepresented her.

I hope so at least.

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I didn't misrepresent my grandmother at all.

I said she was a democrat but I think if she were alive she would now be a republican. I only brought her up to illustrate why I became interested in politics in the first place, when I was quite young.

Not being a racist myself, the color a person's skin has nothing to do with my politics, and it did not with her.

YOU IN FACT misrepresented a wonderful woman who has been dead over twenty years and have the nerve to accuse her of being a racist based on what....?

YOU IN FACT suggested my grandmother was a racist because I said I thought she would probably be a republican now.

YOU IN FACT are grasping at a reason to insult a fine dead woman to insult me.


What you posted is DESPICABLE and across all lines.

I don't engage you, mister.

I don't want anything to do with you and your nasty insults.

Take them somewhere else where it's dark.


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I don't even think that you understand the clear facts of history that led me to make my statement. I stated that your GM probably was not racist.

BUT..... the South was racist and they were Democrats 60 years ago. That matches the age of your grandparents most likely. Democrats then became a party that minorities support. Now, you say that your grandmother would be a Republican. How do you not understand how that would make your grandmother sound?

That seems as silly as someone that would believe that Madonna believes Obama is a Muslim.


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Posted by frank_il z5Illinois (My Page) on Wed, Sep 26, 12 at 22:24

"I don't even think that you understand the clear facts of history that led me to make my statement. I stated that your GM probably was not racist."

Got to stop pigeonholing people, Frank.

Very few have actually answered the OP question. I'm not a political junkie; it would take too much time. Anyway, I have a niggling suspicion that both the major parties, (dems & reps) are, unbeknownst to all of us, being played by the same puppetmaster, so I'm not sure it really makes any difference which side one champions. But I'm sure not comfortable with the president we have now, so I gotta try.


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"But I'm sure not comfortable with the president we have now,"

Why? Please give the reasons.


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I occasionally watch or read about politics for a few minutes, but otherwise, am much less engaged than I used to be. Since the 2000 election debacle, I have become increasingly disillusioned with both political parties in the US, as well as humanity in general. We have an increasing divide in the political parties and constituencies in this country. Where is the middle ground?

I think the whole political system misses the point - that we're all on this earth together, and we're slowly destroying this beautiful creation while cutting our own throats. We are fiddling while the planet burns and I have little patience for the hot air that blows out of most people's mouths.

It doesn't help that my parents are rabid republicans who watch Faux news, listen to Rush Limbaugh, and think Obama is closet Muslim who wants to take down the country, and we get along fabulously unless somebody broaches the subject of politics (???).


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"being played by the same puppet master"

The masters are a plurality. We live in a plutocracy.


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I used to think that it didn't really matter which party ran things because they were pretty much the same and perhaps that was closer to true at some point but I didnt take into consideration the chosing of Supreme Court Justices who have more lomg term impact on our country than any other branch of government. If you have a very conservative President and/or a very conservative congress you are going to get Citizens United, or decisions that it is OK to condemn private property if the local government can get higher taxes from the area by doing so. A yipes moment for me.

My father was also a southern Democrat-not racist but conservative. He voted Republican in national elections because his heart was actually with Conservative Republicans just like most Southern Dixiecrats. There was a time when not all Republicans were conservative. I assume he was a Democrat for the same reason your average Southerner was-it was not the party of Lincoln. Times change.


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So Brown, how does that work? We live in a plurality because we have the electoral college system? Forgive me if I'm dense here but what does that say? That doesn't say anything to me.

As far as the plutocracy part, I'm trying to think of a government on this planet (aside from some aboriginal tribes maybe; MAYBE) that's not run by a plutocracy, and if I could think of one, I'm not sure I would be interested in being governed by it.

Anyhow, the government always end up being run by the wealthy. If the government changes hands by way of wresting power from the wealthy, the new owners become the wealthy, and so on. So there's that.


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