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Posted by labrea 7NYC (My Page) on
Thu, Sep 13, 12 at 10:18

"Steve Klein, who served as a consultant for the Islam-bashing film that sparked the deadly assault on a U.S. Consulate in Libya, is a longtime religious-right activist who has helped train paramilitary militias at a secretive church in California.

Four American citizens, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, were killed by mobs enraged by the depiction of the prophet Muhammad in the film "Innocence of Muslims" produced by Sam Bacile, a California real estate developer.

Klein is a Marine veteran who served in the Vietnam War and is based in Hemet, Calif. He believes that his state is riddled with Muslim Brotherhood sleeper cells "who are awaiting the trigger date and will begin randomly killing as many of us as they can," according to an article in the Spring 2012 issue of the SPLC Intelligence Report.

Over the years, Klein has worked with a variety of far-right groups, including the Church at Kaweah, which the SPLC lists as a hate group. The Church of Kaweah is a secretive cohort of militant Christian fundamentalists in California who are preparing for war and who believe that churches should avoid government regulation and answer only to God. Kaweah has its own militia, headed by David "Dutch" Johnson (aka Dutch Joens), a longtime antigovernment veteran of the militia movement. Johnson looks forward to the battle that will begin when "Dictator Obongo" institutes martial law. He has called Mexicans savages "who can't run their own government" and recommended sending guns to drug cartels to "decrease the excess population in Mexico so they don't come north."

Klein also conducts drills with the Christian Guardians, a San Francisco-based group headed by Andrew Saqib James, an American-born Pakistani Christian who calls Islam "a giant crime syndicate" and hopes his group will become "the most feared militia in the world." The Church of Kaweah's website has advertised joint trainings with the Guardians, describing them as a "unique system of learning how to survive the Muslim Brotherhood as we teach the Christian Morality of Biblical Warfare."

Klein told the UK's Daily Mail that Bacile is a pseudonym and that he knows little about the filmmaker but that he is committed to the film, "like the rest of us." Klein said that he did not feel guilty about Stevens death. "It's not our fault, we told the truth," he said.

Klein claimed that he and Bacile expected the movie would make Muslims mad, and he said that he also warned Bacile that he could be the "next Theo Van Gogh," a reference to the Dutch filmmaker who was murdered in 2004 by a Muslim extremist angry about a film Van Gogh made that was perceived as insulting to Islam. Bacile's film promotes the idea that the prophet Muhammad was a philanderer and a fraud who sanctioned rape and child abuse."

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RE: SPLC on Klein Sniff sniff

What a gem this guy is, eh... again, I just can't wrap my head around the way some people think and the things they do and say. It's become a world that barely resembles the one I grew up in.

Keeping in mind the entire CONCEPT of religions, how is any of what's happening justifiable?


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  • Posted by kwoods Cold z7 Long Is (My Page) on
    Thu, Sep 13, 12 at 11:31

Well, at least he's an equal opportunity hater.


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More info being uncovered, at the link

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Looks like Nakoula Basseley Nakoula is Sam Bacile gee it will be great to see all his connections curry for the cracks now that the kitchen light is on!


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Looks Like the Coptic Evangelical's extremists tried making it look like it was Jewish extremists (not very nice).
I wonder4 how Pamella Gellar will feel about this or will she give him a pass.


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  • Posted by kwoods Cold z7 Long Is (My Page) on
    Thu, Sep 13, 12 at 13:30

Watching this unfold is fascinating, horrifying but fascinating.

"We" want to know who this fringe guy is, what his motivations were and who his backers are.

They (embassy protesters) don't care that it's just some guy with a camera. They only care that our system allows it.


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Kind of comes off anti semetic to set some folks up in a mythology of a trouble making film. Let's see how long before there is a great bit of fury unleashed yet again on. Egyptian Copts as a result of this creep.


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See I swear peanut butter is a much better topic than spooky undercover right wing POOOP!


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"We" want to know who this fringe guy is, what his motivations were and who his backers are.

We already know which foundations fund Islamophobic organization from the Center for American Progress' report Fear, Inc.: The Roots of the Islamophobia Network in America. I doubt that any of the following would be so rash as to fund "Sam Bacile" for fear of being publicly associated with him.

Donors Capital Fund
Richard Mellon Scaife foundations
Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation
Newton D. & Rochelle F. Becker foundations and charitable trust
Russell Berrie Foundation
Anchorage Charitable Fund and William Rosenwald Family Fund
Fairbrook Foundation

The Christian right was developed strong ties with Islamophobia so that's another area to investigate.

The religious right's relationship with the Islamophobia network grows increasingly tighter, particularly since the end of the George W. Bush presidency. Well established groups, among them the American Family Association and Eagle Forum, broadened organizing efforts from traditional social values hot-button issues such as gay marriage and abortion to include spreading conspiracy theories about Muslims. And groups such as Stop Islamization of America, founded by bloggers Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, have taken a lead role in shaping anti-Muslim propaganda.

As some overtly right-wing religious groups embrace the anti-Muslim cause, some right-of-center religious organizations have drifted in the same direction.

The report then discusses the following people and organizations:

John Hagee
Pat Robertson
Ralph Reed/Faith and Freedom Coalition
Franklin Graham
American Family Association, Eagle Forum, Tennessee Freedom Coalition
State-based, local, and Tea Party grassroots groups


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more info on Mr. Nakoula Basseley Nakoula at the link.

Looks like a real gem of a guy.

Here is a link that might be useful: link


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I don't care how horrid the film is, it is merely a film and pales in comparison to the reaction.


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Libya was no protest it was an organized assault more will be revealed & they will die & some of you will protest how they will be Killed & I will celebrate as usual.


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Yes, let's all fear everything and everyone, shall we?

Is there anything or anyone we've missed, any group that we've not yet ostracized or properly insulted and insulated ourselves against? Is our pot of hatred and division not yet full enough? Can we fit just one or two more groups of people within, without it spilling out over its edges?

Or is that the whole point? Get that pot of hatred and fear good and full, mix it well, bring it to a full and rolling boil, and then tip it over so it spreads far and wide, infecting every man, woman, and child with its abject ugliness and evil, scarring their brains with its insidious tendrils... then deny it all, and cry victim!

What religions and extremists and their extremism have put human beings through, throughout the course of this planet's history, is simply heinous. It defies the very concept of the message, regardless the religion!


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