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Keeping Latinos Away From The Polls

Posted by nancy_in_venice_ca SS24 z10 CA (My Page) on
Thu, Sep 27, 12 at 19:31

The GOP seems unable to grasp that Republican efforts to 1) demonize Latino immigrants, and 2) challenge Latino citizens' right to vote, are offensive to the fastest-growing segment of U.S. society. Will Latinos be willing to vote for those using them as convenient scapegoats? Not too bright a long-range plan. Keeping Latinos Away From the Polls

One of the most reprehensible developments in the presidential campaign is the Republican effort to make it difficult for Latinos to vote by challenging their citizenship in states where such tactics could give Mitt Romney victory in the November election.

This tactic comes on top of long-standing Republican efforts to eliminate the votes of African-Americans who, like Latinos, overwhelmingly support President Barack Obama. What makes the campaign against Latinos different is that it questions the citizenship of this growing group of Americans, disparaging their right to live in this country legally and be part of its political process.

It's just as bad as an Arizona cop stopping Latinos and demanding proof of citizenship. The message is clear: If you are Latino and want to drive or vote, you'd better have your papers in your purse or pocket.

The stakes are high. There could be more than 25 million Latinos eligible to vote this year...


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It's all common sense to you and me Nancy, but to the old white guy's party, it's hunker down time.

I figure I'll just let them slather around in their I work and you don't world. I pay taxes and you don't. God is on my side and my son is in Indokeynesiastan mindset defending our contry and you're not.

Reality has to visit once in a while. At least I know the "Four more years" brownshirts won't win this time around.

-Ron-


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The Latino question must be specific to different regions of the US. Example: Puerto Ricans ARE citizens, and an extremely fast growing population, with many kids etc. Many people think that they are immigrants. The problems are the same as with the immigrants. Many don't speak English, so their employment is minimal. The only jobs that seem to grow is bilingual social service offices. Many times its frustrating to keep pressing #1 for English...It's just the way things are.

I am describing a situation that needs to be remedied with education, or something.....The politicans cannot just forget these powerful voters.


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I'd like to see the Romney clan self-deport to Mehico ,,,again.

Viva Obama!


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Please forgive my ignorance and accept that this is a genuine question. from an outsider. If you are a citizen how can anyone make it hard for you to vote?

I know you have some sort of registration process which requires birth certificates. Is that the problem?
Surely , if you have a social security card that should suffice?
asking because I am in genuine ignorance of your procedures.


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younquinn, the goal is to make sure anyone and everyone voting is entitled.

The goal is to make sure illegals with false driver
license and deceased persons social security cards and
Micky and Minnie Mouse can not vote as if they had earned
that right.

No one that has legitimately registered and has
legitimate ID has to worry.

For the life of me I can't understand why anyone has a problem with voters being vetted to make it harder for voter fraud to exist.

This is why some states are wanting picture Ids.

I agree with it 100% but I also like things done legally.


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yes but WHAT do you need to do to legitimately register?
how hard do they make it?


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youngquinn, one thing you must understand about the USA to understand our Presidential elections is that there is no universal votiing method ... every state is different, so in essence, you have 50 different elections at once.

So the ways you can keep people from voting differ from state to state as well.

Most states -if not all- do require a special registration for voting in particular though, and here is an easy and frequently used way of keeping people from voting: Just purge the registration rolls so that thier name cannot be found as a registered voter by the officials in their local voting place on election day.

There are some legitimate reasons to purge voter rolls: deaths, felony convictions, perhaps very obvious duplicates; which is why it is such a convenient manner of disenfranchising large swaths of rightful voters too, seemingly by mistake. The "mistake" only has to hold for a day, after all.

And fwiw now, an unethical and irresponsibly handled voter purge was part of the cluster buck that made up the 2000 election here between George Bush and Al Gore.

You can read about how it was done ... wiki is not up to academic standards by any means, but this is more of a "for example" anyway.

Here is a link that might be useful: Florida Central Voter File - Wiki


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youngquinn, I will try to explain to you the process of what is happening in my state of Pennsylvania.

There is a lot of blatant statements by Republican leaders that are thinking they are speaking to their party and forget they are being video taped. Captured on tape they have said "Voter ID so Romney will win Pennsylvania done" It was done but it has gone to our highest court and is should be struck down by next week.

No one is against the ID it is how they are going about it to make it difficult depending on the difficulty of the state.

In Pennsylvania......I have been working with people to help them get the ID. My main focus has been seniors. I will walk you through a senior process.

To get the free photo ID you have to prove you were born in the US or papers of citizenship.

-80 year old have voted all your life. No passport or expired
-Married and moved from one state to another state most times 60 years ago.
-The only photo ID you have would be a drivers license but at that age they know longer drive so it is expired.
-Must send to the state of birth to get original birth certificate cost $20 - $40. plus cost of stamp to mail forms. Cost to Seniors on fixed income husbands have passed. I started paying for those.
-Since you are married your birth certificate will not have your married name you need your marriage license. If they do not have that they have to pay to get that also.
-Once they receive the birth Certificate they have to take that to the ID facility. Facilities have limited hours and days. Depending on where they live it can be an hour away.
-No living family left so they do not have transportation to get to the facility. I am the transportation for that also. The wait can be 1 hour to 3 hours to get the photo ID.

This law was passed in a hurry and was giving them 7 months to accomplish. We have severe winters as much as 12 - 15 inches of snow. It can be 20 to 30 degree high. It is not even advised that the seniors go out on the sever winter days. Summer we had several high ozone days that warnings that seniors and any one with breathing problems should stay indoors. More days lost.

The problems the judges had was. There was a study and they could not show there had ever been any voter fraud in the state. They could not show that there were enough facilities to be able to produce the IDs for everyone before the next election. The

Republican party is trying to block everyone from voting except white men. Which would be more likely to be driving, working and vote Republican.

Each state know what would be the most difficult laws to pass.

Texas - Hunting license are fine but a College student photo ID was not. Because Obama had a higher College student vote they do not want them to vote. But white men vote Republican and they hunt.

It is an attempt to steal the election. But it will not work. You do not hurt people and win. I refuse to believe it will happen.


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In NC you can register and vote the same day. I don't know what hoops new voters have to go through. I registered in 1968 and back then they asked a short series of questions. It took about 5 minutes (limited by writing speed). I don't recall being asked for an actual ID.
Fast forward to modern times: I do the early voting at the Citizens' Center. Usually no line. I'm asked my name and address. I've never had to show my drivers license, but maybe that will change this year. I got my SS card at 16 and washed it that same year, so I couldn't show it but I know my number. Maybe it's luck or could it be I'm obviously a tall and gray haired Caucasian?


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Published September 27, 2012
Associated Press

Florida officials find 198 non-citizens on voter rolls after extensive search

Under the process that election supervisors will use, they will send out letters to those suspected of being non-citizens. In some cases it could take up to 60 days before the voters are eventually removed from the rolls.

"It's going to take a while," said Susan Bucher, the Palm Beach County elections supervisor, who was sent the names of 14 voters suspected of being ineligible. "It lands us after Election Day."

The most recent list came about after the state reached an agreement with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to screen names on a federal immigration database. That yielded a list of 207 names -- which has gotten smaller as state officials have continued to verify information.

Some of those on the most recent list include voters who have already admitted that they are not citizens.

Most of the voters on the latest list are from Miami-Dade County, although there are suspected ineligible voters from the Panhandle to Southwest Florida.

The state also agreed to place back on the rolls any voter whose non-citizenship status has not been confirmed by the database Florida is now using. At least two counties -- Collier and Lee -- had removed voters from the rolls because they did not respond to certified letters and newspaper ads.

It sounds to me like they are doing everything within
their power to make sure only non-citizens are exempted
from voting.

Sounds like thats the right thing to do.


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For the life of me I can't understand why anyone has a problem with voters being vetted to make it harder for voter fraud to exist.

Well, for the life of me, I can understand why one party demands voter IDs. I remember reading polls decades ago about requiring national identity cards. Citizens were universally against them. It sounded so European, so Socialist, so Communist. We've gone through decades and decades and decades of voting without voter IDs being an issue. Now it's become a high priority issue with the Republican Party. Even when Republicans are made aware that voter fraud is so miniscule they want it as a high priority, they want it as the law in every state. Even when Republicans are made aware that voter fraud is far less common then election fraud. Even when Republicans are made aware of the DIFFERENCE between voter fraud and election fraud.

The only reason this insistence on focusing to put these voter ID laws in effect is to bully, intimidate, disenfranchise, and make it more difficult for certain segments of society to vote. Plain and simple.

-Ron-


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So, in other words, the GOP is only for socialistic ideas when such ideas further their cause, like national ID's... but they're against other socialistic ideas that would further the basic citizens' cause... does that about cover it?


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It sounds to me like they are doing everything within
their power to make sure only non-citizens are exempted
from voting.

Do they have any evidence that having those votes on the rolls allowed them to vote in the past? In other words, was there any fraud associated with that?

Also, in the process of getting rid of so few names which may have not resulted in fraud anyway, how many legitimate names are they purging?

And how much does this effort to clean up 200 names cost the county/state?

Those 3 things should be considered in a cost/benefit analysis.


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I remember reading that of the names presented for purging in Florida, over half those names were obviously Hispanic in origin. In other words, someone was targetting the Spanish-speaking residents, assuming they were illegals. However, when the state checked the hundreds of names, something like 1 or 2 were questionable, but there was no evidence that those 1 or 2 had ever voted illegally.

The Repubs. have admitted that they hoped to cut down the votes for Obama by setting up the voting requirements so that they are more of a problem with the Obama groups--the young, the minorities, the elderly. A favorite Repub. explanation for how a Democrat could have won any race against a Repub. is that Dems. have illegally registered thousands and thousands of "nonqualifieds" (illegal aliens, felons, the dead, etc.) in every community. The Repubs were so sure that the forced purges would turn up MASSIVE CORRUPTION. The only problem is that almost no corruption and fraud have turned up. Very expensive solution to a miniscule problem.

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I think the Republicans well know that Latinos are NOT necessarily illegal, but they believe that most are in the "47%". Reps will never admit as to what they really are thinking.

I have spoken to many Latinos from P Rico (citizens of the US, as they are a commonwealth, which means they are US citizens, get benefits in their country without paying the same taxes as we do in the US. Some people in P Rico want their independence, some want to stay as a commonwealth, which is the best of both worlds, because the benefits they get outweigh what they put into the government, and some want P Rico to become a US State.)... and they will tell you outright that the reason they come to the mainland is for better opportunities, and/or benefits.

Traditionally it's the poor people who leave their country. It's the young poor families, or single mothers, and the elderly. Basically, it's the unemployed, and the uneducated. People who are established or doing well in their country DO NOT need to come to the US mainland. They tend to take up residence in states that have good benefits, and have many Latinos already, so they feel at home.

They seek opportunites, but do not find any, so they must survive and hit the social service offices. This is the truth, whether Republicans and Democrats want to hear it or not. This issue is not addressed in ALL of the US. It's easier to "redistribute" the money, rather than do something about the poverty in this country.

It's evident that the only states where Latino voting matters is in the swing states.

BOTH sides cannot put blinders on, and pretend that the Latino population does not exist, and it's growing quickly. Latinos are very family oriented, and have huge families. The politicians need to face reality and either HELP the Latinos with education, training, or whatever, because suppressing the votes will not work, when many are already citizens.


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The Repubs were so sure that the forced purges would turn up MASSIVE CORRUPTION. The only problem is that almost no corruption and fraud have turned up.

I think the key issue being overlooked here is the INTIMIDATION factor. The numbers that they dig up are unimportant. How many will stay away from the voting booth now because of this?

-Ron-


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BOTH sides cannot put blinders on, and pretend that the Latino population does not exist, and it's growing quickly. Latinos are very family oriented, and have huge families. The politicians need to face reality and either HELP the Latinos with education, training, or whatever, because suppressing the votes will not work, when many are already citizens.

I think both sides are well aware of the growing number of minorities. I also believe that the Republicans realize it also but their answer is to attempt to suppress the vote. Because the extreme right has overtaken the Republican party.

The extreme is well funded and they have the media Rush, Fox, The Wall Street Journal. This was a good coverage to get the message out and capture the class of people that were suppose to be kept in the bubble. They accomplished their mission but it is not a large enough hate base society to win a national election.

You have TV, Radio, and Print. But when your base shrinks even with a coverage that deep you cannot win. Society is not largely racists, elitist, devoid of compassion. It is not human nature of a decent civilized society and I feel most people are decent human beings, that would feel hatred so deep to go along with this rhetoric.


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This is what happens when you alienate group after group after group of persons... all that hate serves only to ensure those groups will make it to the polls to vote... for the opposition.


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To put it bluntly YQ, the dirty tricks the GOP has tried to come up with in every state which makes a difference in the results, is blatant.PA never had photo ID, never once in the many decades I voted have I ever shown my ID. I sign my name beside the last one. Now they change the rules a very few months before the election thus ensuring a win for Romney as Mike Turzai, leader of the GOP said on tape. They are a crooked bunch of thieves as they were in Florida in 2000. They can't win on their own merits with the lame candidate they have , so lets keep dem voters home.


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This is what happens when you alienate group after group after group of persons...

The reality of Latinos in elected positions of power still hasn't managed to register with CA Republicans. Even with Latinos in the CA Assembly and Senate, they're still the favored target of the CA GOP. The 2010 Republican gubernatorial primary was a good example of this thinking.

And then e-Meg and the CA Republican Party wonder why their Latino outreach fails.


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Quinn,

Here's a link to show you want is required in each state. I don't know if it's completely up to date, but it gives you an idea.

I would like to know how those requirements compare to what you need. What do YOU have to do?

Here is a link that might be useful: Voter ID requirements


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Only yesterday, Whoopi Goldberg had some scathing words for Ann Coulter regarding her latest writings, which have to do with racial issues in America. After listening to Ann speak for only a short time, it was clear to Whoopi, and to many others viewing, that Ms. Coulter has no idea what it's like to be a minority in America, nor does she realize that her party has changed drastically since the time frame she wants to speak about, making it completely inconsequential to her overall ramblings.

She spoke of liberals never having embraced blacks, which was countered by the paraphrased question, "So, Republicans have made them feel all warm and fuzzy, then?"

The conversation proved to me that the skewed Republican mindset is alive and well, does not understand how they've alienated minorities, and is too busy sucking as much money out of the current politically charged atmosphere as it can to even notice that it's off kilter with regard to racial issues.

If anyone knows what it's like to be a minority in America, it would be Whoopi Goldberg... and not so much Ann Coulter... which begs the question, how can an entitled white Republican accurately capture the feelings of minorities within this country? Well, they can't.

The only recourse left is to ensure those minorities have a difficult time registering to vote, and getting to the polls.


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Marquest ...What do you think of the press leak that the judge is going to allow provisional voting ? Details are sketchy, but it's Corbett's' suggestion that everyone will be allowed to vote but if you don't have a photo ID , you have to sign a form explaining your circumstance. Corbett knows that this is going to bite him in the ass in the next election.

Stay tuned. It changes every day.


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Thank you everyone for the information. I am still not clear on one thing.

WHO authorises these purges? On whose authority are they undertaken?

many people have written as tho it is the Repubs who orchestrate them.? Is it true that political parties have control over the register of voters???!!

Nic to answer your question. Registration is a state matter.

When we turn 18 we fill out a form and sedn it to the state Government. No Birth cert no phto required.

On election day we go to the polling booths and are asked "Have you voted elsewhere today?" when we answer "no" they cross our name off the rolland give us the papers.
Yes, we vote on paper. that way , if the election results are close they have a paper trail...and can physically recount the votes to make sure the results are correct.

For Federal elections it is the same.

I dont understand why the people who have been inncorrectly struck off your registers dont sue..as they have been illegally deprived of their right to vote.

I think the difference betwqeen our countries is that it is compulsory to vote in Australia. If we dont vote we are fined.
this gives everyone an equal say in the Government and the political parties know that if thier side does not win our vote we will be giving it to the other side...

thanks for your responses everyone.


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And as I read all these accusations and complaints I can't help but remember the recent "Stossel" program where an interviewer went to the homes of various felons and asked if they had voted in the last election while still a felon.(this is not permitted in most states) Many said they did. Some even said they voted more than once. The shocker was the young man who, speaking of a primary, claimed to have voted more than 70 times which must have really kept him busy. His explanation was he thought he was helping people.

By the way, Stossel is neither Republican or Democrat. He is Libertarian.

Part of the problem is that some people don't know the laws in their own state. Some people are stupid. Some people are cheaters. Florida just caught a couple whose permanent residence is in New York but who have a second home in Florida. They voted in person in one state and filed an absentee vote in the other. Out of state students do this frequently. I guess those fake student IDs to get past the liquor laws age limits have other uses.

Most states have a whole list of optional identification documents. I once got my new Drivers License with a Blockbuster card as proof of residency because it had a date on it.

This doesn't even touch on vote buying.

When I go to vote I always take my Registration and my drivers license. I've never needed to use them but I don't want a problem. They check my signature which is in the precinct registration book, always. In fact, I don't go anywhere without my photo ID even if I am just taking a walk. Recently I left my purse in a shopping cart at XXXXXXX. When I rushed back half an hour later, the clerk at Customer Service recognized me before I said what the problem was. He still went through the store's procedure which I certainly understand. They wouldn't even accept a reward. I donated to the charity they support, instead.


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Posted by lily316 z5PA (My Page) on
Fri, Sep 28, 12 at 15:59

Marquest ...What do you think of the press leak that the judge is going to allow provisional voting ?

No I did not hear abut that. They are keeping some of the Penn -D office open later and opening earlier to try to attempt to show the judge that it is doable. We had one office that closed at 2:00 twice a week. It was not even posted that they closed early. I was pissed.


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Posted by youngquinn VIC Aust (My Page) on Fri, Sep 28, 12 at 18:44

"Thank you everyone for the information. I am still not clear on one thing.
WHO authorises these purges? On whose authority are they undertaken?"

"Purges"? What purges? Seriously.


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Elvis the term "purging" was used by 3 different posters on this thread. Read it if you want to know who , I will not do your work for you.


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youngquinn, You used the right name. Florida Governor Rick Scott is a Republican. He sent list, very extremely large list, of names to purge from the voters list to the Election board

This board was instructed to send letters to these people and tell them if they did not contact them and prove they were citizens they would not be allowed to vote.

They were purging a veteran that had served in the war. Had voted every election. His name looked Hispanic. The state of Florida was sued and that process was stopped by the Justice Department.

There was some more back and forth and they are back to the Governor trying to purge citizens again. Majority of them have Latino sounding names.

The reason is assumed is because Obama support is Latino by a large margin and Florida has a very large Latino population.

You are probably very confused. Just think of each state as having mini-governments with Governors as the President and mini house like our Federal Government.

There is no universal system when it comes to voting. Crazy huh?


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Posted by youngquinn VIC Aust (My Page) on Fri, Sep 28, 12 at 21:04

"Elvis the term "purging" was used by 3 different posters on this thread. Read it if you want to know who , I will not do your work for you."

Fair enough. Your question: "WHO authorises these purges? On whose authority are they undertaken?" is answered in part on the Wiki link TG provided upthread: "The State of Florida's Division of Elections was required to contract with a private entity to purge its voter file by chapter 98.0975 of the Florida statutes, which had been enacted by the Florida legislature to address voter registration fraud found during the 1997 Miami mayoral election, according to the United States Civil Rights Commission Report on 2000 Florida Elections.[2]"

I looked around, as I'm sure you did (doing the work and all), and the references seem to center around Florida; this article seems to support the conclusion that this purge is a lawful process, albeit a contested one, which happily is a freedom we have in this country: the right to object about pretty much anything:

"Florida officials face new legal challenge over voter purge
September 27, 2012:Michael Peltier : Reuters
(STEVE NESIUS, REUTERS)
TALLAHASSEE, Florida (Reuters) -

"Voter protection groups said on Thursday Florida election officials had reneged on an agreement to ease up on efforts to purge non-U.S. citizens from voter rolls and accused the Republican-led administration of trying to intimidate voters.

Earlier this month, voting groups had dropped a legal challenge to a state purge of voter lists after Florida election officials said they had greatly reduced the number of potentially ineligible voters due to errors on an original list.

But on Wednesday, Department of State officials sent a new list of 198 names to county election supervisors culled from a Department of Homeland Security's database that tracks residency status.

The new purge effort was "not within the spirit of our agreement," said Katherine Culliton-Gonzalez, director of voter protection for Advancement Project, a Washington D.C.-based racial justice advocacy group. "It creates intimidation and confusion and the state knows very well this is going to get some eligible voters."

The move was the latest in a series of complex developments on voter registration in the key battleground state of Florida, the state which famously decided the 2000 election in which George W. Bush beat Democrat Al Gore after a legal battle over Florida's results that went to the Supreme Court.

Advocacy groups say the push to purge the voter rolls of non-citizens is a thinly veiled attempt to disqualify and intimidate Hispanic and African-American voters, as well as other recent immigrants, who tend to vote for Democratic candidates.

Florida is among a handful of Republican-led states that have passed laws in recent years to tighten voter requirements.

"We have a responsibility to ensure Florida's voter rolls are current and accurate," said Chris Cate, a spokesman for the department. "The process to identify potential non-citizens has been a careful, thorough and legally-sound process to uphold the integrity of Florida elections by making sure ineligible voters can't cast a ballot."

Florida Governor Rick Scott has maintained that his only motive is ensuring that the ballots of eligible voters are "not diluted" by ballots cast by non-citizens, convicted felons and others who have not properly registered to vote.

Five voter protection groups and two individual plaintiffs are suing Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner and seeking an injunction against the purge, claiming it violates the National Voter Registration Act, which the groups say bars such purges 90 days before an election.

"To have these efforts come so close to the election is shocking," Culliton-Gonzalez of the Advancement Project said.

"The numbers they are talking about are infinitesimally small. Florida has nearly 11.5 million registered voters, yet they are subjecting legitimate voters to this type of scrutiny."

A Florida federal judge has scheduled a hearing next Monday in the lawsuit to block removal of possibly ineligible voters from registration rolls before the November elections."

(Additional reporting by David Adams; Editing by Kevin Gray and Claudia Parsons)

I hope this answers your question. As a bonus, we both learned something.


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Yes youngquinn, here, the person in charge of the voter rolls is elected in a county-wide partisan race. He is a county official who is over taxation, property records and voting. And ours here in Harris County is regrettably a Republican.

I'm familiar with three or four states that have similar set ups, but it does vary from state to state. As to why such seemingly unrelated functions are associated under one office, I've included a link if you are interested.

I've worked as an election judge pretty frequently since I began voting, so I am very knowledgeable about such things in my area ... but this is of limited use in trying to explain how the whole country operates for the reasons I gave in my previous post.

Here is a link that might be useful: A History of Tax Assessor/Collectors in Texas


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Oh, and youngquinn, to follow up on the idea that a person might sue for being denied thier right to vote ....

There are provisions, at least here and in a few other states I am familiar with, for what is known as a challenged or provisional ballot.

So let's say I go to the polling place and for whatever reason my name isn't on the list. I can legally demand a ballot from the judge that will be stored seperatley and evaluated by a team of judges aside from the general and uncontested ballots cast by other voters.

But this is not necessarily widely known by voters or even by election officials. You have to understand, there are tons of people here who never to rarely vote. I know a 27-year old who is going to be voting the first time in November for Obama. He's not going to be incredibly familiar with the process, and considering it was never important enough to him before, if he was turned down, he might very well just walk away, wondering what the heck happened and thinking what a shame it was he never got to vote.

This the very reason why I take off work to work elections as a judge or an officer (believe me, it isn't the pay!). Fair people are badly needed in such positions.


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"Oh, and youngquinn, to follow up on the idea that a person might sue for being denied thier right to vote ...."

That is the kind of PR states want to avoid!

The notion that election workers "would not know" about provisional ballots doesn't make sense. Opponents of stricter ID claim voters will be denied their right to vote, and they are itching to prove it. States with new rules have every reason to make sure that doesn't happen. The provisional ballots allow the states to "trust but verify."

It would be incredibly stupid for states to jump through all the legal hoops they've been through, including some being sued by the DOJ, and then fail to mention the role of provisional ballots to election workers. That makes no sense at all.


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I'm sorry if it doesn't make sense, but I know for a fact that it is the case. It's a rare occasion that they are actually used, so not everyone is familiar with thier use, despite training.

I've been an election or alternate judge all over the city for 17 years, ever since I was eligible to vote. I assure you I am far more knowledgable about what election workers here know than you are. If it doesn't make sense to you, please feel free to write a letter to our Texas governor, Rick Perry (R) or any other election official down to and between he and our Harris County Tax Assessor Collector, Don Sumners (R).


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I don't understand how anyone lives their life without a picture ID. I need one every time I go in a doctor's office, after hours care facility or hospital. Is that not the case around the country? Every person should carry a photo ID at all times and showing one to vote should be required across the country.


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greatgollymolly, We have gone over this before, Demi suggested that maybe some live in better neighborhoods, I do not know the reason but I have never had to show a photo ID in years other than when I traveled for work and vacation.

I do not write checks I use credit cards for purchases and no ID is necessary. My Mom was very sick before she passed last year. When she was admitted to the emergency room there was never a request for a photo ID.

Your experience is not the norm for everybody.


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Want a real hoot!!!!

Our Ontario Healthcare card, which is a photo I D and must be shown everytime I go to the doctor, the lab or the hospital, and must be renewed every 5 years , is NOT acceptable Photo I D for voting , getting a drivers license our any other official government business.

Go figure.....


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RE: Keeping Latinos Away From The Polls

Another Hoot. The Judge that was over seeing the voters rights ID could not use his Judicial Photo ID to vote. Because it did not have a exp. date.


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