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Posted by Big_Papi none (My Page) on
Fri, Oct 19, 12 at 11:43

"It is no secret that President Obama�s and green-energy supporters� (from both parties) foray into venture capitalism has not gone well. But the extent of its failure has been largely ignored by the press. Sure, single instances garner attention as they happen, but they ignore past failures in order to make it seem like a rare case."

I didn't know it was this bad. HMPH and snort....Guess it's not news anymore when something BO is involved with is a failure.

Betcha Romney would have done things much differently and way better. It's more his bailiwick than BO's anyway. Venture Capitalism that is.

"The problem begins with the issue of government picking winners and losers in the first place. Venture capitalist firms exist for this very reason, and they choose what to invest in by looking at companies’ business models and deciding if they are worthy. When the government plays venture capitalist, it tends to reward companies that are connected to the policymakers themselves or because it sounds nice to “invest” in green energy."

Well, maybe we'll get someone in the White House in a week or two who couldn't vote "Present" 60 times. Someone who has had to make real world decisions.

Clint Eastwood said, "A man's got to know his limitations." So true.

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Oh, great - a hit piece making bouncing around the loonyright websites.

And if you go through that list and find out what actually happened to most of these companies, you'd find out that they'd been bought up by another, consolidated, and so on. Wait a few days until the other side of the story comes out.

But hey, if you think our countries best interests lie in digging up trillions of tons of coal and burning it for electricity, doing away with environmental regulations because hey, yellow skies are pretty too, you know who to vote for.


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"A mans' got to know his limitations". So very true, BP. Unfortunately some are distressingly unaware that they have them.


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Kudos, Ingrid. It's best to ignore the troll.


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Absolutely, Ingrid and Lily! How marvelous! You have finally become self aware! Can we expect a reduction in the #### you two put out now or does it take time to get out of the habit and learn polite behavior?


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"Posted by ingrid_vc Z10 SoCal (My Page) on
Fri, Oct 19, 12 at 15:47

"A mans' got to know his limitations". So very true, BP. Unfortunately some are distressingly unaware that they have the"

Something that's patently obvious emanating for the Oval Office.

"Posted by lily316 z5PA (My Page) on
Fri, Oct 19, 12 at 15:53

Kudos, Ingrid. It's best to ignore the troll."

Ah....name calling...now I know I'm scoring points. The truth in what I post is that obvious, huh?

Truth is, had we anybody with the very LEAST bit of business experience, we'd be out of this economic mess two years ago. Statements from BO not understanding the gravity of the economy only add to the belief that he was in over his head before he even started.

Unfortunately, we got an empty suit instead.


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And BP exactly what would the President do? He has no legislative powers. Ask nice????


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"Posted by chase z6 (My Page) on
Fri, Oct 19, 12 at 17:00

And BP exactly what would the President do? He has no legislative powers. Ask nice????"

Back to not ignoring me, eh?

FFS, he had a supermajority, surely you remember.

For his sake, I'm glad the Mustang Ranch was already purchased, otherwise I'd pin that on him too.

His will be judged by history as a failed presidency.

LOLZ @ sleeplessinftwayne


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d@mn I slipped...won't happen again


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Seriously?

Well said, Ingrid... and David, too.

Okay... that's as much feed as I'll leave here.


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"Truth is, had we anybody with the very LEAST bit of business experience, we'd be out of this economic mess two years ago. Statements from BO not understanding the gravity of the economy only add to the belief that he was in over his head before he even started."

A comment like that shows me that you are lacking expertise in exactly what occurred in the last few years. Paradigm shifts don't occur overnight. And the shift didn't start in Nov-Jan 2008/09...it started a few years earlier.
No president could have snapped his fingers and restored a phony economy, nor should he/she.


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sleepless, if you can show me that I've engaged in less polite behavior than you or others on the right, I will be glad to apologize to you.


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Obama and his majority of dem's put forth that ridiculous stimulus package that was full of pay back for his supporter's. When I think of all the good that could have come from just the money lost in those green energy grants. I keep hearing about all the good the stimulus did, but don't see it anywhere in the country with the exception of favors paid to friends and supporters. Gee it would have been nice if that money could have been used to build a few hundred rec centers for high risk children who have no where to hang out after school, to play ball, socialize,, etc. Nice if some of those families who lost their homes could have stayed in them. And the list goes on and on. Billions were thrown away like they were nothing for some pet green projects that were total and utter nonsense and at the same time he squashed the oil industry and cut thousands from working. He's got to go!!


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Molly, I agree with you, but I keep thinking that this president isn't different from most other politicians in respect to the waste and favoritism factor. Just another same old same old when it comes to favors and hypocrisy.

So I'm not particularly surprised or disappointed in that regard.

It's his agenda to systematically change the USA from a world power to a mediocre nation that bothers me.


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"Billions were thrown away like they were nothing for some pet green projects that were total and utter nonsense and at the same time he squashed the oil industry and cut thousands from working."

Agreed....He's not fixed the economy, he's made it worse. This only one example. There's others.

"It's his agenda to systematically change the USA from a world power to a mediocre nation that bothers me."

Me too, it's almost like he wants a European type country. Why the hell would anyone want The US to resemble European country?


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A better question would be why does the president of the USA want the USA to resemble the European countries, and I don't think that's the goal. I think his aim is to take away the power and influence of the USA. That may not sound so bad on the face of it, but there will always be a "big dog", and I am happier with the USA maintaining that world role than some other nation, and that is inevitable if the USA becomes weak enough.

If the rest of the world doesn't need the USA to be strong, why are we helping so many nations? What will happen when the USA can't/won't do that?


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"A better question would be why does the president of the USA want the USA to resemble the European countries"

Because some of them have a higher standard of living and make more money per capita. That would be my guess.


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This is such Bulsh1t. Was it Romney's "bailwick" to "let Detroit go Bankrupt?"

According to most experts and the CEO's of the auto companies, that would have been the end for GM and Chrysler.

Bain's bailwick was and is outsourcing jobs. Romney is now floating this idea that by getting tough with China, he can bully them into doing what we want.
That is now where this problem began. It started in THIS country with venture capitalists like Romney realizing that they could personally profit from closing down manufacturing in the US and sending jobs overseas. The LAST person that should be in charge of reversing that is Romney, who still has ownership in Bain, a company that is still pulling that crap in places like Freeport, IL.


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Elvis, I think his waste is intentional. If you read about socialism and how it comes to pass you'll see he is following the model to get this country to a nanny state. Nothing he does is by accident. He knows exactly what he is doing and ruining us econmically will fall right into his bigger plan for the country; dependence on the government for everything.

I've have been seeing and hearing bits and pieces about Romney's personal life and the man is very frugal and somewhat a penny pincher. I don't see him "wasting" any money when he takes office. Imagine that, a penny pincher in the White House. Now that would be a nice change.


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I think his aim is to take away the power and influence of the USA.

What?? You think our President has a secret agenda to weaken our country?
What an outrageous, unpatriotic, borderline treasonous comment to make about a sitting President. If Obama wins reelection you might consider moving out of the country if you still feel that way. That's just way out of line.


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"If Obama wins reelection you might consider moving out of the country if you still feel that way"

I agree. You really should give some thought to that.


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Bush turned the country into a nanny State, after his policies including no down payment home loans, minority home ownership, deregulation of Wall Street, elective Wars, and Trillions in tax cuts brought our country down to its knees.

Stimulating the economy and taking care of millions who lost their homes and their jobs as a result of the Bush Crash was the only responsible course.
It is working and we are on the way back.
It is no time to turn back to Trickle down economics, deregulation of Wall Street and industry, and more freebie subsidies to the oil companies.


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If romney promised to cut all aid to all foreign countries, i would vote for him. But he has not promised that. Why won't he promise that? Why cut helping people here actually paying the tax dollars being sent all over the world?


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"I think his aim is to take away the power and influence of the USA."

Guess Heri and Frank missed the movie...... ;)


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I think his aim is to take away the power and influence of the USA.

And

It's his agenda to systematically change the USA from a world power to a mediocre nation that bothers me.

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Elvis, I think his waste is intentional. If you read about socialism and how it comes to pass you'll see he is following the model to get this country to a nanny state. Nothing he does is by accident. He knows exactly what he is doing and ruining us economically will fall right into his bigger plan for the country; dependence on the government for everything.

When I read statements like these, I don't see rational thought, I see paranoia.


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I agree, ann. I had marked the same passages -- you know with thoughts like "what the he!! does that mean?" I can't believe the crazy talk of the --what are they? conservatives? right-wingers? t-partiers? what? By whatever name, they do live in a paranoid bubble, don't they!

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"By whatever name, they do live in a paranoid bubble, don't they!"

That's just a silly statement. If we lived in a bubble, we probably wouldn't be communicating with you.

Can bubbles be paranoid?


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"If Obama wins reelection you might consider moving out of the country if you still feel that way"

... just don't move to a European country, where the higher standard of living and greater social stability than the US might freak you out. I suggest Brazil or Pakistan.


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(Aside, because this part of the reactionary discourse above just slays me: people who think European countries are less preferable to live in than the US have clearly never been there. A tour of Sweden or Germany might be an earthshaking eye-opener for some. You might even come back with some good ideas for improving the country you claim to love so much while voting for policies that are destroying it.)


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Can bubbles be paranoid?

You have a lot in common with a bubble, Elvis -- you tell us.


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Posted by circuspeanut 5 (My Page) on
Sat, Oct 20, 12 at 12:43

Can bubbles be paranoid?

You have a lot in common with a bubble, Elvis -- you tell us.

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Really?

In what way?

It never occurred to me that Elvis had a lot in common with a bubble.

Do mean because it's empty, or because it's pretty?

Something else?

Is your comparison an insult or a compliment?

Tell us, by all means exactly what Elvis has in common with a bubble.

We'll wait.


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"Nothing he does is by accident. He knows exactly what he is doing and ruining us econmically will fall right into his bigger plan for the country; dependence on the government for everything."

I agree. Obama set out to diminish the United States of America, and in that regard, he can claim "success." It is hard to believe a majority of Americans would vote for four more years of national decline.

It does explain, though, why the administration is actively working against efforts to protect the integrity of the ballot box. Sometimes I wonder why we bother with the electoral college, and other times I am glad we do.


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Because it's empty, demi. Thanks for the definition.


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"By whatever name, they do live in a paranoid bubble, don't they!"

See, Demi--it can't be empty if "they" are in there. So there's that. Pretty, maybe. Probably not. I think CP was just being humorlessly snarky. I appreciate your attention, though ;D


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The "BO legacy" as defined by the OP Big-Papi.

Yes his predictions have been so accurate, right on target.

I don't think so.

Big Papi's predictions have so far been full of nothing but hot air.

Vegas has better odds of predictions than he does.


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  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Sat, Oct 20, 12 at 13:46

>Big Papi's predictions have so far been full of nothing but hot air<

Should these predictions be called the BP Legacy?


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Should these predictions be called the BP Legacy?

sounds good to me, bboy, pretty accurate too.


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