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Heard this before?

Posted by monablair none (My Page) on
Tue, Oct 9, 12 at 22:33

Same old story.....

Here is a link that might be useful: Heard this before?


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Wooo! Haven't seen that one on TV. It's creepy, isn't it?


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What a great ad!!
That should be out there big time!

Did you notice how the people behind him sit and
smile and nod their heads. Like they have never heard
any of it before.

I am beginning to think something is wrong with him.
In one ad I saw he was even doing Jimmy Carter
nearly word for word.


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You gotta give it to him, he's consistent with his socialist BS talking points. That's why he can't debate anyone on fact. All he knows is his BS that got him elected and too bad for him it's not going to get him re elected because now he has to show positive results and he has none to show.

That first debate was so telling of his real capabilities. It didn't take a genius to realize smart undecided people would look at that debate and change their vote from him to Romney. He was a loser in that debate because he is a loser in the job of president. I can't imagine how anyone can vote for the man to be president of this country when all he knows how to do is talk, talk, talk and never say anything of substance.

Listening him talk about his dreams, promises and all those millions of fantasy jobs is so boring and the fact is, the first time I've been able to listen to him was at this debate the other night. Since his first campaign speech 4 years ago, I couldn't listen to him. It was like nails on a chalk board. From day one I said he's so insulting to the American people, telling them all those wonderful things he's going to do for them when in fact the only thing he wants to do is exact his "revenge" on America. What's so sad is the milions who stand by him to exact that revenge on their country.


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I could kick myself for having voted for him in 2008. I regretted my vote almost right away, but I live with the knowledge that I helped put him in office.

What was I thinking?


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"has to show positive results and has none to show"

After President Bush ran the economy into the ground the stock market tanked completely. Today it's at a very healthy level.

Osama Bin Laden is dead and so are many of his terrorist friends courtesy of President Obama.

Has encouraged alternative sources of energy (yes, Romney said 50% of the green companies had failed, the true figure is around 2%)

Has turned around the auto industry, which jump-started the economy again. The unemployment rate is steadily falling.

Ended the war in Iraq and is in the process of ending the war in Afghanistan.

Repealed Don't Ask, Don't Tell

None of these are positive results?????


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I guess you Foxboxes prefer the changing faces of Flip Romney to our President who has maintained a consistent message throughout his Presidency.

You think Romney would have solved the mortgage foreclosure crisis by now with his plan to accelerate foreclosures? LOL.
What do you think would have happened if Romney was around to let our auto companies go Bankrupt?
Is Romney for or against abortion rights? Has he moved Left again on that, or will he do that after the election...maybe appointing a pro-Choice Justice to the S Ct.? Can you contardos trust this guy?


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"Can you contardos trust this guy?" What's a contardo?

Googled it and this is the closest I found:

experienceproject.com � Definitions � Words Starting with ACached

Jun 16, 2010 � adam contardo:

"Any _____ (rhymes with maggot) who just seems to exist in life to annoy other people and to smell like burritos and mexican food. avoid at all costs!"


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Heri, you can't get through to them, they are not capable of listening.

Just look at what is said in this thread

GGM

You gotta give it to him, he's consistent with his socialist BS talking points.
He was a loser in that debate because he is a loser in the job of president.
Since his first campaign speech 4 years ago, I couldn't listen to him.

From day one I said he's so insulting to the American people, telling them all those wonderful things he's going to do for them when in fact the only thing he wants to do is exact his "revenge" on America. What's so sad is the milions who stand by him to exact that revenge on their country.

CW

I am beginning to think something is wrong with him.

There will be more of this absurdity posted on this thread, Heri.

Now if the rest of us are lucky, and I believe we will be, they will be having some serious issues to deal with, starting with another 4 years of Obama in the White House.


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Just because misplaced feelings of white guilt might fabricate a fantastical "need for revenge" to justify that guilt doesn't make it true. Not all paranoid schizophrenics are actually being followed by thugs in black. Or even black thugs. Just sayin'.


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I remember this poster being around in 2008, ranting about Obama. Zero credibility.


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That's what I was thinking, Maddie... credibility is already in question due to previous falsehoods and misinformation given. At this point, it's just more repeated falsehoods and misinformation, reading like another political ad... facts need not apply.


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And the beat goes on, and on, and on. Oh, sorry, I repeated myself...


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I'm not surprised he would reuse a speech that got a good result from his base. What totally amazed me was the collection of videos it led to.
??????????


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Seriously bizarre.

It's not hard to be consistent when the words and phrases have been ingrained into one's head. Wash, rinse, repeat...


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Mona, I distinctly remember your posts before the 2008 election. I can't remember if they were here or over on the decorating conversations side. They came across as someone who really bought in to Nixon's southern strategy.
I don't believe you voted for Obama.


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I guess what chloe means is that she can't refute your post, therefore you must be a liar. Do you get it now jill?


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"absurdity"

What is absurd is the defense of a man who has not done a thing to improve our economy. The economy is coming back in trickles and has nothing to do with Obama. He and you want others to believe that a growth of 1% a month is something to be happy about. He has taxed and regulated many companies out of business in his quest to inflict his "social justice" on this country. His green energy cost us billions, yes billions in lost dollars. Do you know how many homes could have been saved for families with those billions he just threw away on his pet projects. The only thing stimulated by his stimulus package was Chris Matthews leg!!

He did not "save" the auto industry. He helped out some union members and it was wrong. Ford didn't take him up on his offer but did the work and pulled themselves out of the slump. Chevrolet should have been allowed to sink or swim. The minute he's out of office you'll see just how solvent Chevrolet is. NOT!! They'll sink like a brick without his continued support.

Pulling troops out of a region is not a big deal but in his case it is because he pulled them out and tried to convince America all is well and now all the Muslims will live in peace and harmony. Gee, I can almost hear the music playing in the background!! Today the congressional hearings will show just how smart he was to remove troops then apologize to the Muslims for our behavior while there. Stevens and the others that died recently was sad enough but then Obama, Hillary and Rice went on national TV and lied to us. We knew they were lying. Only the very niave would believe any of that BS about a video causing that kind of terrorist attack.

His hopes and dreams and snappy words are not action plans. The man can talk, but that's where his skill set ends.


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GGM, maybe when you come out of your fantasy land that you are living in, one can have a conversation with you. Until then, continue on with the absurdities.

Yes the absurdities that permeate every post that you have done on this forum.

Absurdities, fantasies, lies, paranoia, total lack of understanding about anything that you say.

But, that's the mantra of the GOP. spout it out long enough, loud enough and the people will believe it.

Still appears that in the end, when push comes to shove, the people aren't going to believe the GOP lies and there will be 4 more years of Obama in the White House.


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His hopes and dreams and snappy words are not action plans. The man can talk, but that's where his skill set ends.

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Talk? The man couldn't even manage to do that at the debate.

One would think the man holding the most highly regarded position on THE PLANET could manage to call out an "idiot" as liberals have called Romney, on all of his many "lies" that he's been accused of.

Nope--just looking down at a podium, smirking, nodding, nothing.

Not only could he not dispute anything Romney said, the man couldn't even brag about his tenure in office.

If Obama supporters can't see the stark contrast in ability and achievement between Obama and Romney, and if Obama supporters can't see that Barack Obama has not even come close to living up to his own promises and all of the hype and hope that came with his election, and if Obama supporters can't see that this man is in over his head, then there's nothing anyone can say to persuade them.

So, you see, the shoe really is on the other foot.

We all have our opinions, see things a certain way, and no one is likely to change those opinions.

The difference is, I respect those that think differently than I do, and their opinion.


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Me? Nixon? NEVER!

And I can't believe I voted for Obama, either. I got swept up in his magic, his promises and his dreams. I can't recall what it was that made me regret my decision, but it was almost immediate. At that point I became vocal and negative and starting referring to him as "The One". So, yes, earlier posts on other Forums do reflect my displeasure at his being the POTUS.


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It's getting awfully hot in here on this thread.

Ah , Now I know why. mona is spouting out more hot air and expecting us to believe her.

Maybe we need the AC on?


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Except I saw those posts before the election.


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LOL, I think we need boots more than we need AC...hip waders even!!


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  • Posted by vgkg 7-Va Tidewater (My Page) on
    Wed, Oct 10, 12 at 11:08

Mitt Romney 2012
Just Wait, You'll See


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Thanks for sharing those highlights, Mona. It's the same old snake oil salesman pitch. The only positive after four years of Obama's promised "miracles" is that while the electorate is sicker and poorer, it is rapidly getting wiser.

During his knob year, my Citadel graduate came home with some simple but obvious words to live by:

Keep doing what you're doing
Keep getting what you're getting.

One of Obama's cheerleaders here didn't say who she spoke for but in reference to Obama's performance said "We like it" and "we want more of it."

Except...Obama's not running on his record. He's running on the nutty idea that he hasn't had enough time to keep doing what he's doing, but that it would eventually work and besides the other guy is "lying."


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Posted by lavenderlver none (My Page) on Wed, Oct 10, 12 at 6:58

"Seriously bizarre.
It's not hard to be consistent when the words and phrases have been ingrained into one's head. Wash, rinse, repeat..."

It IS bizarre. It begs the question: who ingrained the words and phrases into the president's head?

And yes, thanks again, Mona. It was fun to watch the video again. It's fascinating in a creepy sort of way.


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Our own Chatty Cathy Doll with one heck of an Energizer battery--presiding over our country for the last four years.

You'd think someone would think to change the tape and switch the words around.


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"And I can't believe I voted for Obama, either."

You are right. None of us can.


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Mona: maddie, little, and Frank don't believe you when you state that you voted for Obama in 2008. AND according to Frank, "none of them can".

Now I suppose you're supposed to suffer from impotent rage, and succomb to ranting. I'd pass; but that's just me.


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Why, because I come across as too smart to have done such a dumb thing?


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The flavor!


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It was so much better in the eight years we listened to the dimwit the GOP put in office. "Fool me once, shame on me or however it goes , you can't fool me". I actually muted the TV when I saw his face. He embarrassed us thru out the world.


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You're right Demi, in the end he couldn't muster up his usual rhetoric without the help of his teleprompter. Unless he's before a crowd of mindless supporters he has nothing to say.


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GGM, this teleprompter crap is getting old. Read verrrry slowly . They ALL use them, every last one.


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Could the tighty righty talking points get any deeper... or older? Geez!


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Sure they could. Can you imagine four more years of blaming Bush?


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Can you imagine four more years of blaming Bush?

Ask yourself.....Was the economy good when Republican Bush came into office. Was there a Surplus?

Was the economy good with a Surplus when President Obama came into the office? Was there a Surplus? Was the economy booming?

Try being honest if not out loud at least to yourself. There is no need to go to hell for unnecessary lies. I assume you can read and understand the difference of Deficit and Surplus.

Give credit where credit is due, Lets continue to give Bush his credit for putting the country into a recession and President Obama credit for pulling us out of the recession.

8 years to spend the surplus and TRASHING the country = BUSH
4 YEARS digging us out of the Republican mess. = OBAMA

Since we gave Bush 8 years to spend the Surplus and spend us into debt. I think President Obama should get 8 years to get the surplus back and fix the mess it took Bush 8 years to trash.


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But marquest, look at the deficit now...Obama is Bush on steroids. No way!!


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Can you imagine four more years of blaming Bush?

I imagine that those who lost family in Iraq because of the lies of the Bush Administration will continue to blame President Bush for a lot longer than four years.


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But marquest, look at the deficit now...Obama is Bush on steroids. No way!!

Can we make a deal and Bush magically replace the Surplus that he spent on steroids and the deficit that is collecting interest from his reckless policy that you want to magically forget. You are aware that the deficit that Bush left is collecting interest? This adds to what we have to pay back because of the Republican policies that you and your Republicans supporters would like to ignore.

So until we pay off Bush's deficit and his interest that accrues daily, he will continue to get the credit. Republicans do not get the choice of finding a scapegoat to blame. Bush gets the credit.

Why? Because we can count without taking off our shoes.


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I can imagine blaming Bush and his cronies forever. History doesn't change just because you don't like it. It is what it is. It's still Bush's fault, and it will be for all eternity. It's not going to change.

"Stop blaming Bush"... talking point #?


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Stop blaming Bush? I don't think so. He will be blamed for decades and decades. Why stop blaming him? Because he is one of your own? Can any of you Righties own up to the fact that YOU voted in the worse president in our history who took a surplus and ran with it. And YET, Obama should have fixed it all in what? ....a year? He's been trying for 3 and a half years and is slowly doing it.


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"GGM, this teleprompter crap is getting old. Read verrrry slowly . They ALL use them, every last one."

Not at the debates. Your guy was lost without his teleprompter.


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Nonsense....he did very well at all previous debates and is exceptional at all his town halls.....but if it makes you dislkie him more be my guest, doesn't make it so.

As an aside I had a thought about the Presidents abysmal performance at the debate. I'm not saying it is so and not offering it as an excuse but my son said something Sunday that grabbed me.

He wondered if the President might have been distracted about something we will never know about. He said all Romney has to do is campaign and rehearse debates but that the President had to do all that and be the President too.

It is something we all should think of. President Obama has a real, full time job, at a very critical time, that he needs to do. He likely has more on his mind than rehearsing a debate.


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I can't imagine what he would have on his mind that would
be more important to him that his re-election.
Didn't he take off and go to Vegas for a fund raiser while
Libya burned?
That excuse he must have had something important on his mind is the reason he looked like daffy duck won't float.
Below are just a sample of the headlines.

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snip
According to the public schedule of the president, the last time Obama attended his daily intelligence meeting was Sept. 5 � a week before Islamist stormed our embassy in Cairo and terrorists killed our ambassador to Tripoli. The president was scheduled to hold the intelligence meeting at 10:50 a.m. Wednesday, the day after the attacks, but it was canceled so that he could comfort grieving employees at the State Department � as well he should. But instead of rescheduling the intelligence briefing for later in the day, Obama apparently chose to skip it altogether and attend a Las Vegas fundraiser for his re-election campaign. One day after a terrorist attack.

Snip
Obama's Vegas fundraiser while nation mourns Libyan attack is a disgrace.

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Unreal: On Day Following Libya Assassinations, Obama Skips Another Intel Briefing

Is anyone surprised by this revelation? Our Commander Campaigner-in-Chief has made his priorities crystal clear:

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The Middle East is burning and Obama thinks the best use of his time is a campaign fundraiser in Las Vegas and making sure he has time for Jay-Z and Beyonce.

I could have posted hundreds like this but you get the
message.

Naaaaaaaaaaaa he didn't have ANYTHING important on his mind at all......that was his problem.
He was thinking about his next kissing with the stars.


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I guess what chloe means is that she can't refute your post, therefore you must be a liar. Do you get it now jill?

Are you talking to me? No clue what you're talking about. I didn't even post on this topic. Care to explain?


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Posted by vgkg 7-Va Tidewater (My Page) on Wed, Oct 10, 12 at 11:08

Mitt Romney 2012
Just Wait, You'll See
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No,no. It's more like Bend-over.....lmao!


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  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Thu, Oct 11, 12 at 18:32

I wouldn't count on Obama being reelected at all. As we see on this forum every day, the country is burdoned with a large contingent that vote and think Republican no matter what the facts are and how many times these facts are pointed out to them.

Emotion is the big motivator of people, and not information.


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"Emotion is the big motivator of people, and not information."

Agree. A large part of why this president got elected in the first place. JMO; I have absolutely no "source", no linky dink.


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Ok, I see this video a little differently than it "sounds".
It's obviously made by Reps with soundbites to make him look like an idiot. The truth is that he's staying the course, albeit a slow one. He's made mistakes, and admits them, unlike the many faces of Romney.

In my state, the roads are pretty much being worked on for the past year or so.
In fact, today as DH & I were driving we saw lots of roadwork, and we noticed some tree & bush clearing in the medians. Dh asked what are they doing.....and I cracked a joke: Oh, these are the "shovel ready jobs"...actually they had chainsaws in their hands.
Also, friends of mine who teach in Community Colleges say that they got extra funding to teach additional programs that are in demand- Med Asst, Dental Hygenists....

Yes,Obama sounds repetetive in that video, but you're forgetting that when he took office, things were STILL on a decline. He had to slowly and steadily claw his way out of the pit.

He has been blocked by Reps on some job creations esp for the veterans.

To be fair, if you recall the Clinton years, he slowly got the economy going in 4 years and finished the job within 8. Obama inhereted a semi-depression....and hostile Reps.


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No President, in the history of this country, has ever bad mouthed a president who left office. It's classless and embarrssing. The first time I heard Obama do it, after he took office, I was floored. I can understand someone campaigning wants to point out shortcomings of the other guy, but not to bad mouth a president after you are in the office. It's evident Obama had no training in manners growing up.

He could have voiced his concerns about things President Bush left behind without running the man into the gutter. It showed how low Obama will sink to make himself look good. Unfortunately all that bad mouthing is not going to help him this time around. People are sick and tired of hearing him talk, period. They are seeing Romney and Ryan as decent men with morals and manners. The more Obama calls them liars the better they look to people who know it's not necessary to insult someone to make a point.


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No president in history has ever been landed with the abysmal mess that President Obama inherited as Presiden't Bush's successor. If speaking the truth about a dire situation is "bad mouthing" or "running the man into the gutter" then you've hit the nail on the head. When did we ever have a president responsible for the dismantling of a nation economically, in addition to causing a war by lying and allowing 9/11 to happen in spite of clear warnings?

I have never seen President Obama do anything mannerless, and that would include endless lying a la Romney and Ryan. And no, many people are not tired of hearing him speak. You have an unfortunate tendency to make sweeping generalizations that have no basis in fact and about which you have no knowledge. I've never heard the president call R&R liars, although they are, but I don't think that word has ever been heard from him in public. In fact, he's said very little about them, while Romney took it upon himself to criticize the president publicly in a totally "classless" fashion.


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"In fact, he's said very little about them, while Romney took it upon himself to criticize the president publicly in a totally "classless" fashion."

I agree; IMO Romney always speaks in a classless fashion; that's one of his good attributes.

On the other hand, the president tends to speak in a condescending manner, especially when he's putting on a show (acting) for a particular type of audience.


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MrsK: I guess what chloe means is that she can't refute your post, therefore you must be a liar. Do you get it now jill?

Jill: Are you talking to me? No clue what you're talking about. I didn't even post on this topic. Care to explain?

MrsK - would you answer my question? Were you talking to me and if so, what are you talking about?


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I agree; IMO Romney always speaks in a classless fashion; that's one of his good attributes.

On the other hand, the president tends to speak in a condescending manner, especially when he's putting on a show (acting) for a particular type of audience.

Classless = good and articulate = bad?

Just another example of the dumbing down of America.


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Elvis, I agree.

Our president gears his tone and manner of speech moreso in accordance with his audience (and at times it can come off as condescending), whereas Romney's speech is consistent and appeals to a broader range (or class) of listeners. Interesting.


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Our president gears his tone and manner of speech moreso in accordance with his audience (and at times it can come off as condescending), whereas Romney's speech is consistent and appeals to a broader range (or class) of listeners. Interesting.

Really? Did you listen to Romney's secret 47% speech? Could it have been more tayored?

~Ann


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That's great, Lavender. epi has a point, though. This is how I was brought up:

"class�less/ˈklasləs/Adjective: 1.(of a society) Not divided into social classes.
2.Not showing obvious signs of belonging to a particular social class."

This is probably what ingrid wanted to say: "3. : crass, boorish".

In the household where I grew up, the expression "she/he's got class" was a no no. Mom considered the use of that word to describe people to be, frankly, crass.

Since I consider the descriptor "classless" to be a positive thing, especially in one running for public office, I figured I wouldn't "look a gift horse in the mouth". I put it in my "Nice things ingrid has said about Romney" column.


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Obama is much more of your stereotypical "politician" than Mitt Romney.

Obama has made his way through life giving speeches, getting money from other people, and redistributing it.

Romney has made his way through life using his talents to create jobs, create wealth, and give people the opportunity to take care of themselves.

Romney has not had to suck up to people for his life's work, and Obama has.

Really, it makes sense.


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Posted by ingrid_vc Z10 SoCal (My Page) on Tue, Oct 9, 12 at 23:26

Osama Bin Laden is dead and so are many of his terrorist friends courtesy of President Obama.
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Ingrid call the families of our 4 killed in the terrorist
attacks while Obama played kiss kiss in Vegas.....and ask
them how secure they feel since "Obama killed all the bad guys".


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"Emotion is the big motivator of people, and not information."

Things are very different today than they were in 2008. The electorate has plenty of information about Obama after four years of broken promises, massive unemployment, reckless spending, dictatorial mandates, apology tours and disregard for our national interest.

A month ago, we had a terrorist attack in Benghazi and we now know this administration lied about it. It said it was a "spontaneous" attack sparked by a video, not terrorists. Liberals, of course, believed every word of it.

We know the White House still hasn't come clean about Benghazi. But the terrorist attack did provide us with a bit of personal information about how the president thinks.

By his actions, he showed us he saw nothing wrong with going out and partying while our embassy smoldered and four Americans lay dead.

He showed us that the most important thing on his agenda, just hours after a deadly terrorist attack on America, was raising funds for his reelection.

The choice between Obama and Romney could not be clearer.


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Posted by monablair none (My Page) on Wed, Oct 10, 12 at 23:59

Why, because I come across as too smart to have done such a dumb thing?
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Posted by elvis 4b WI (My Page) on Thu, Oct 11, 12 at 19:12

"Emotion is the big motivator of people, and not information."
Agree. A large part of why this president got elected in the first place. JMO; I have absolutely no "source", no linky dink.
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Posted by demifloyd 8 (My Page) on Mon, Oct 15, 12 at 18:59

Romney has not had to suck up to people for his life's work, and Obama has.
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You'all (I'm from the south :)) are killing me with these
great one liners and such!!

And those libs say we are dumb.
Dumb sure comes up with good zingers.

Stay the course.


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Ingrid call the families of our 4 killed in the terrorist
attacks while Obama played kiss kiss in Vegas.....and ask
them how secure they feel since "Obama killed all the bad guys".

Ambassador Steven's father does not want Romney politicizing his son's death. It will be interesting to see if he honors this request.

Here is a link that might be useful: Link


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Asking questions about the lies that obviously were told by this administration's representatives about Ambassador Stevens' death and the deaths of three others are not "politicizing" anyone's death.

The citizens of this country deserve answers, regardless of what the families want.

Certainly, respect for the dead should prevail, but that does not preclude asking questions and referring to the deaths.


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Another definition:
classless An adjective describing a person or thing as lacking in any sort of decorum whatsoever.

What word do you feel is appropriate to describe someone like Mitt who tries to manipulate with lies; exploits tragedy for his own gains; insults friends and foes;...? Pick any word you want. It doesn't change reality. He has already shown everyone who he is and his true character.


The citizens of this country deserve answers, regardless of what the families want.

Since you are so concerned and feel you deserve an answer then you must have felt the same way after all the Embassy attacks during the GWB administration. Perhaps you can fill us in on the findings from the investigations for all those attacks. I believe there were 12.


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But Bush is not the president now epip.
That was then and this is now.

Shouldn't Obama be learning from Bush mistakes instead
of repeating them?
Obama is the President and he can't blame Bush for anything that happens on his watch and neither can you.

Americans don't like the same mistakes made over and over again.
Thats been the problem with Obama. He is just an empty chair.


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That was then and this is now.

The dead and wounded from the Iraq invasion and occupation don't count now?

Death and destruction based on lies, but now it's time to move on.

Perhaps the families of the dead have a different opinion.


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Ditto to what Nancy said.
I'll add the dead are worth more than being dismissed as unimportant or being used as pawns in political games.


That was then and this is now

What happened then still affects us now.

The only reason we are seeing some jumping to conclusions and placing blame is because it is Obama yet the same people never held the former administration to the same standards or held them accountable for anything. I don't expect an answer. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy.


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Never mind, Nancy... we're only supposed to remember from the time a guy like Obama entered the picture...


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Agreed that questions need to be asked and answered and that is what the hearings are for. To talk about it during political speeches and on the Sunday morning talk shows is construed by the families as using the deaths of their loved ones for political gain.

The families should be allowed to grieve their losses without the additional pain of having their loved ones deaths used for political gain.

Let the hearings do their job


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I didn't vote for Obama in 2008 (Nader). He is just another spit and polish politician. Called him "cardboard man".

I will vote for him this time around. Just because he pulled our troops out of Iraq. (And because Nader has chosen a really bad running mate.)

"Pulling troops out of a region is not a big deal". Can't believe you said that ggm. You making money off the war? Can you explain why you said that?


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Posted by demifloyd 8 (My Page) on Mon, Oct 15, 12 at 18:59

Obama is much more of your stereotypical "politician" than Mitt Romney.
Obama has made his way through life giving speeches, getting money from other people, and redistributing it.

Romney has made his way through life using his talents to create jobs, create wealth, and give people the opportunity to take care of themselves.

Romney has not had to suck up to people for his life's work, and Obama has.

Really, it makes sense.
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Demi,

You don't make ANY sense at all. You bought into the GOP chant.

1) Obama a politician? Not really. He's doing what he said he'll do.
Romney is the typical politician-a sleazy, lying Snake oil salesman.

2) Redistributing? Obama took over a mess. He had give the unemployed FOOD to eat. Were they supposed to go live under a bridge? What about the hungry kids? Slowly people are going back to work, and will NOT need the govt help. It takes a while for programs to get implemented. Do you think Romney will take over the white house and EVERYBODY will have jobs in 2 months? Then again, with things in place by OBAMA, people will be getting more jobs in the next few months, due to the economy improving- R & R would love to take the credit for that.

So UPWARD redistributing is OK?

3) Oh, but Romney is Soooo sucking up to people to vote for him. I'll bet you're hearing everything you need to in order to cast your vote for him. As I said before: some people will never be able to sift through others' lying BS (the R & R ticket).

4)Romney has not sucked up to people. You are correct, but now he is while running for presidency. However, his record is that without a CONSCIENCE he used the US employeess to make himself rich then outsourced their jobs....and NOW he's against outsourcing and against China* see Freeport, Ill, part of Bain outsourcing. More Romney LIES.

I hope the American people will take notice, because his lips are saying one thing, but behind the scenes he LAYERED Bain Ind. so it looks like somebody else is doing the outsourcing, and he's no longer attached to it. Oh, please, anyone who took Business 101 in college knows that it's a big fat lie.

What universe is R & R living in and the people who are voting for them?


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Notto,

I didn't buy into anything.

Those are my opinions.

Your extrapolations of what I said are what do not make sense.

I said what I said, no more, no less, I meant it, and it's the truth.


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"I meant it, and it's the truth"

No it's your opinion, which you are totally entitled to, but that doesn't mean someone with the opposite opinion is telling a lie.


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Well, let's backtrack, Chase.

Prove that this is not correct:

"Obama has made his way through life giving speeches, getting money from other people, and redistributing it."

Prove that this is not correct:

"Romney has made his way through life using his talents to create jobs, create wealth, and give people the opportunity to take care of themselves."

"Romney has not had to suck up to people for his life's work, and Obama has."

*

The boss generally doesn't have to suck up to people.

A man asking for money as a community organizer to redistribute the money of others does.


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  • Posted by batya Israel north 8-9-10 (My Page) on
    Tue, Oct 16, 12 at 12:53

"Romney and Ryan as decent men with morals".

Mercy me.


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An opinion is not necessarily the truth, as we clearly see in the ongoing tableau called HT.

It might be true that you hold such an opinion... but it's still just an opinion.


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No intention of doing that Demi. I said you were entitled to your opinion , and you are, but the President did NOT make " his way through life giving speeches, getting money from other people, and redistributing it."

He made it by working hard....and that's the truth.


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Yes, Chase.


Obama worked hard at giving speeches, getting money from other people and redistributing it.


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whatever....as I said you are entitled to your version of the "truth" regardless of whether it is true or not.


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by demifloyd 8 (My Page) on Tue, Oct 16, 12 at 12:36

Notto,
I didn't buy into anything.

Those are my opinions.

Your extrapolations of what I said are what do not make sense.

I said what I said, no more, no less, I meant it, and it's the truth.

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Duhhh!!! Slaps self on the head*....I should have known that R & R supporters are voting for them on BASELESS opinions.

I got your drift, and nik's, and citywoman's and the like. SAY NOMORE.


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Notto, I hate to see you so upset about what I think, nik thinks, what CW thinks, and "the like."

Why do you care?

Our vote counts as much as yours.

Your opinion as to why we are voting, and that you think the reasons we intend to vote are "baseless" is as "baseless" as what you contend.

You can get yourself all twisted up in wasting time worrying about how other people think when you apparently don't have a clue why other people think like they do.

Cast your vote with great joy and don't worry about why we vote as we do, or how we will vote--I don't care who you vote for, I want you to vote for the person you feel will do the best job and I am not about to criticize you for that or denigrate you for that.

I don't care--why do you?


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Speaking of kicking one's self, check out this song on youtube, 'I Could Kick Myself for Voting for Obama' [in 2008, but not now...]


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Ha--will have to listen to it!


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