Can you believe this crew!

Pro-life cannot mean....You have the baby and pull yourself up by your bootstraps don't look at us to help you with the mistake you made. Our job is done. We made you have that mouth to feed now figure out how to feed it without our help. It is our money not your money.

Health Care NO....Those insurance companies have been fair and have offered insurance to everybody at a fair price. They never raised their rates you are just greedy and getting sick and having sick children. It is our money not your money. Go away.

It is just crazy.

Yesterday, Meghan McCain wrote an article about this and last night on Bill Maher, Anna Navarro of CNN was waxing nostalgic for the republican party that used to be.

What is a party but a collection of ideas that it represents. There is nothing intrinsically great about ANY party - it's what the party does and says that is what people should focus on.

She's the one who seems clueless about what women want... unless they think exactly like her.

Many threads sink to the bottom of the page, it depends on who responds to what we post. I have had a couple that slid away quickly recently from lack of response, it happens.

Plus it seems to me the threads that get the most responses are those where there are personal back and forth, not so much discussing the topic.

And there is my 1/2 penny :)

All politicians use catch phrases and words found to work with focus groups to manipulate their bases and undecideds. Romney's efforts were just so blatant and excruciating false that even part of the base was upset. If he had won, such talk would be much muted. Let's just hope that politicians will take to heart the adverse effects of such blatant BS.

All the talk that Romney was collecting more money did not succeed if you have a candidate and a party that speaks to less than the majority money does not serve up the results desired.

I would like to see the money taken out of the election but it was a needed money effusion for the time.

"Push it!! Pull it!!! Drag it in!!!! Lousy Credit? NO PROBLEM!!!"

And it's not just Joe's threads that are passed over... so don't feel left out. There are a lot of threads that sink like stones.

I will bring this back to you when the next jobs report comes out. It should be lower with the holiday hiring. We will see. We were what 7.9 or 7.8?

Nancy, my dear, you have a mind and can apply its use in multiple languages.

Newt said it was "Nuts"

"I mean, first of all, it�s insulting. � The job of a political leader in part is to understand the people. If we can�t offer a better future that is believable to more people, we�re not going to win."
Gee poor guy an't even b;lame his loss on anyone without these "loyal" piranha's piling on!

But there are lots and lots of subjects that don't have to do with politics, and that are controversial, that we could tackle.

I guess I just find it odd that such a blazing inferno suddenly has a plethora of hoses turned on it, in an effort to... what, exactly... extinguish the flames, thus watering down the remains?

I agree Jodi, there really are a lot of topics that could be discussed that are not really political in nature and they would probably also serve as positive a purpose within the active forum members as do the holiday decor etc. threads. But yes, since I've been a member some of the best threads have fallen like a stone, with maybe six replies and then to be ignored, usually from Joe, Marshall or David.

As far as women and Romney or Ryan goes (mentioned within the subject of the op), I will never understand the numbers of votes they actually did manage to get. Not all of the female voters for the R&R team were 50+ years of age.
I can understand some of the very young women who were raised by the 50+ women, the years of still being in college or perhaps fresh out of it and starting out their lives - they still might think that mommy and daddy are right and knows best, not realizing that the world that their parents grew up and married in is not the world that she will be dealing with in her life.
I was stunned at the women in this forum - most by far in the 50+ age range, who furiously stated that oh yes Ann Romney did too work as hard supporting her husband and raising her children and creating a home as did every other American woman.

When, since she did not also, along with all that, work at a salaried position that took up easily 9+ hours out of her day. The threads became stupid imo, in the defense of the 'working Ann' idea. Ann lives in a world that few do and the republican party might work out just fine for her but it is a disaster for the rest of the female population who do not enjoy the position she married into. If he had hid all his money and walked out on her and the kids, Ann would have found precious little support or help from the party she so cheered. And despite her great education, she would have had a terrible time finding a job to support herself and her kids because she walked away from the job force for so long that her value in it was reduced to practically nothing. She was job replaced by an equally educated woman years and years ago.

Women have to grow up with the attitude and assumption of self-sufficiency and the constant ability to be able to support themselves and their children on their own - that is a fact of life for women, they are their own prince charming who saves themselves - and must be raised that way.
I cannot find where the republican party does anything or stand for anything in a way that would aid or elevate women in this need to be able to do so.

So, how did they manage to get the votes from women that they did get - from Romney and *Ryan* (Ryan??) for pete's sake?
While grateful for the numbers of voting women who turned away from the team and the party, I'm not understanding the reasons why there was even a reasonable amount of women who did vote for them, after all.