Peacefully grant the State of Alabama to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government. Alabama 5,000 already!

Louisiana needed 11,000 by Dec 7 they already have 13,534

Texas already has 18,405

South Carolina 2,217 YADDA YADDAA YADDA!

WAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!

If the Right does not get a handle on their crazies this country will not progress.

This is just stupid.

Agree Marshall ... we can't even hold a good old protest in this country with out the militarized police force coming in with "riot quelling gear".

Good luck y'all

We want Hawaii to secede to Canada. Please.

rob: Why would anyone be tolerant of people who want to leave the US? This isn't simply a difference of opinion. It's unconstitutional and unpatriotic.

We the People Petitions Filed in Nineteen States Seeking Permission to Secede from the Union

Petitions for secession filed from Louisiana and Texas have already received well over 10,000 signatures. Per the website's own rules, petitions that garner 25,000 signatures or more within 30 days require a response from the Obama administration.

Similar petitions from Alabama, Tennessee, and, interestingly, Oregon, are also gaining traction, with each receiving thousands of supporters over the weekend alone.

Other states in which residents have expressed an interest in going their own way include Kentucky, Montana, North Dakota, Mississippi, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, New York, New Jersey, Colorado, Arkansas, South Carolina, and Missouri.

Don't leave me here! I'm from Boston!

It would be funny to see that after they completed their mission and realized the amount of money the North send to their states for their very survival they beg to take back their signatures.

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No, the people that don't pull their weight would move to your state to get to "your" money.

Require a response? Really?

PULEESE put your humor on....

I love a good tantrum, amusing as long as it's not an actual kicking, screaming kid in my house. This one's right up there with, "I don't like you anymore and I don't want to play with you so I'm taking my ball and going home!"

The more attention given to tantrums, the worse they get.

A nice (suitable for framing) form letter penned by an intern and signed with an autopen.

-Ron-

Rob's is right, IMO. That would be regional bigotry. Need I re-post the definition of "bigotry" again? We have rapant bigotry here on this forum,: religious, regional, political. The outrage seems to be about perceived racial bigotry; so far I've only seen that directed against people who are "not of color". Not being a victim of "white guilt" I find this extremely annoying, but never mind--that will get someone off on a tangent. Sorry.

Rob is right.

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Snort!

It is kinda fun how that big circle of life turns, and now its the wingnuts at the opposite end of the political spectrum we're telling: 'love it or leave it'.

If Texas leaves...so will their Electoral College ergo, no Republican will get into the White House again, ever.

It is kinda fun how that big circle of life turns, and now its the wingnuts at the opposite end of the political spectrum we're telling: 'love it or leave it'.

... :)

"I can almost guarantee that if these states succeeded in seceding (nice!) there would be a mass exodus/brain drain of the more educated population to the north. Much of the wealth would also flee the South (despite whatever political/ideological convictions they may hold, the wealthy class would almost certainly choose the more stable [economically/politically speaking] nation if they had the choice)."

Saying things would be even more inequitable. More polarized. Sounds like a precursor to civil war. People never learn. Doomed to repeat it aint they?

It's past 500,000 signatures now.

-Ron-

I liked his closing remarks:

So let's add dabblers in this latest nuttiness to birthers as a category of people we do not welcome at RedState. Our aim is to beat the Democrats, not beat a retreat to a Confederacy that Generals Grant and Sherman rent asunder well over a hundred years ago.

Even here at RedState, while we may not much care for him, President Obama is still our President and we are still quite happily citizens of the United States. If we must drain this fever swamp that's taken hold of a few people on the right over this past week before we can drain the swamp in Washington, so be it.

:)

Apparently it has not dawned on the nut jobs in Texas that signed the petition just how fast the world's 15th largest economy would tank after Texas seceded from the United States. The nut jobs are taking it for granted that the thousands of companies headquartered and/or doing business in Texas would remain there once Texas is no longer part of the United States. The United States would probably make it extremely hard for companies located in Texas to do business within the United States and once that happens, those companies would exit Texas.

Everyone else should have the right to know what these birther type of thinking dim wits want to do to everyone else who doesn't agree with them.

I would predict that these same Birther thinking type of dim wits talked about being the REAL Americans, the real, PATRIOTIC Americans who also loved sending endless e-mails about supporting our troops all wrapped up in the American flag, those Americans - rather than the regular ole' Americans who voted for that scaryobamaman.

Why am I not surprised to find that the Birthers of this nation are weaved into this new movement. As a matter of fact, I would have automatically assumed that they would be. These same people, like all those Birthers who suspected the President of not worthy of the office so they made up stuff to get rid of them -- these Birther thinkers have been the worst of all bad losers. They are an embarrassment of the very country they want to secede from. They aren't willing to leave it because they don't like it, they want to force everyone else in the state to go with them.

That's just how they roll and how they have been rolling since that scaryobamaman won the last election.

Were I Queen of the country, I would make them re-take a good Civics course and then make them join a T-ball team and pee-wee football team, fully participate in the practice sessions and games, all without any permission to speak.
Why?
Because all that stuff about learning how to be good winners and losers when in sports obviously didn't 'take'.
As Queen of the country I would send the seceders to time in a nice, long refresher course. They would have to shut up so they could listen and learn how to be good winners and good losers this time around.

That said, I vigorously support and defend every Birther type thinker the right to petition secession from the country as well as all the Birthers who spoke of believing in a whole host of reasons why their President wasn't perhaps worthy as a REAL American, thus supporting the demand for display of his birth certificate and then to respond by finding ignorant and stupid reasons why it wasn't a legal certificate.
I also equally defend the right for everyone else in the country to disagree with them as vocally and angrily and as laughingly and dismissively as they wish.

To say and then to have to endure reactions to such things as what Birthers were pronouncing are part of what our rights are as real Americans, and part of what makes it great.

But, no... and because they especially don't like who won the game, they want to pick up their toys and go home, never to return to the playground, ever again? Sounds kinda childish to me... and a lonely existence, as a relatively small nation that most likely won't be welcome to conduct commerce with its neighbors.

As noted following the previous election, the vitriol is a little bit over the top from some quarters, don't you think? I do.

Let's be real... if Romney would have taken the election, I would not have been exceptionally happy about it, but I still respect the office of President, and I still would have thought of him as my President, being a citizen. Sure, some of the things he said, and a lot of what he neglected to say, were a little bit... um... frightening... but still. I would have hoped for the best. What else could I have done... besides expressing my displeasure?

Threatening secession is a little bit nutty, to say the least. Some of the things people do in this country really make me wonder...

That Maddie-- no moss growin under HER!! LOL

They clearly didn't think this through, eh?

(shucks. shoulda kept my mouth shut)

And besides, there's a very wonderful inscription, a sonnet by Emma Lazarus on the pedestal that holds the Statue of Liberty... I admire it so much... the last few historic lines of which read:

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

That's not the entire sonnet, which is entitled "The New Colossus", but it's become a very significant part of our nation and its history.

That little bit of America, right there, makes me proud to be a citizen, glad I was born here, and glad that others can come here in search of new, different, or better lives.

I would also agree that the amount the average American knows about his or her own country is atrocious! I see big gaps in knowledge of history, geography, how our government runs, etc... I find myself looking up information from time to time... things I learned in school but have forgotten!

It's my opinion that as Americans, we, in general terms, have forgotten a lot... too much.

It's the ILLEGAL immigration and taxpayer money going to these criminals that has people upset.

It's especially unfair to immigrants who follow the rules and submit paperwork.

Chase, I submitted a thought on that. Give them some sort of amnesty, while taxing them. Make it easier for them--make it easier for us. win-win!

DC's representation in Congress is limited to a non-voting delegate to the House of Representatives and a shadow Senator. In recent years, District residents have been seeking statehood to gain full voting rights. They have not been successful so far.

Do you think we'll be challenged for reading between the lines? :-)

Reading between the lines is ok as long as you don't expect any pushback when it's not clear enough to understand. I too, read between the lines. Both could be wrong. Who knows?

Do you think we'll be challenged for reading between the lines? :-)

Methinks, with some, we might be challenged for reading.

No one faulted anyone for reading. It's the lack of written communication. No one is mind-reading last I checked ;) ;) ;) But it's looking y'all can't read either. Try again!

Can someone explain the 'tiebreaker' thing to me, please?

50 states, but add 1 to it and that gives the one way too much power. The "interested advice" could tip the balance their way every time.

Make sense? Have two and there would be an even split again, if something were to go down the middle.