I have always contended that hopefully, every experience in life with someone will make me or them a better person for the next person or experience.

Except for this group of people.

A lot.

As for the original premise, it is nonsense. I'm going to change the life of someone I meet briefly, once, and never see again?

Then why are you here?

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I'm not here to change anyone's life or opinion or to be changed.

Apparently you are, by that question?

And yet Bill you only challenged bboy on his statement? I actually have learned a little (or a lot) from souls who have walked through my life. I have learned that for every hateful, ugly, violent act (person) there are many more kind souls in my world.

All you have to do is look around you, even if it is not in your "personal space" to see total strangers reaching out, not for monetary gain, but because it is the right thing to do.

We are all in this (world) together...

I do not know what I will do with this learning experience but I am sure it will be useful when I deal with people in charity situation or everyday life events.

It is a nice post Bill.

This was your premise correct? We are all here to both teach and learn on HT? Just want to make sure I understood.

Yes it is a nice post...

Except for this group of people.

Demi,

You just made me spew my drink! Thanks! I needed that!

I think some people need to dig out their senses of humor.

: )

I think part of the problem is that people are sitting at their keyboards assuming people like me are sitting here as angry as they are or assuming the worst about others that have differing opinions, or just wanting to believe the worst, or wanting others to believe the worst about someone else.

None of that exactly fits in with the kind and positive sentiment expressed in Bill's OP.

Good reminder, Bill!

I think so, too. And I take "here" to mean everywhere, not just HT.

What Demi said: "I think part of the problem is that people are sitting at their keyboards assuming people like me are sitting here as angry as they are or assuming the worst about others that have differing opinions, or just wanting to believe the worst, or wanting others to believe the worst about someone else." I agree with that; the vitriol is really astonishing to me. Thank goodness it's not the norm, and it's only a few.

Posted by jmc01 (My Page) on Sat, Nov 17, 12 at 18:03

"bill, Great post. That type of thinking is why I said months ago on HT that I believe I have at least one thing in common with every single person in this world. thanks for sharing this."

Me, too.

Projection. Lets see who is the most worried about poor people are taking our money? Who is looking for the next Benghazi horror? Whose Presidential Candidate Lost?

Hummmmm lets see a lot of people have been celebrating and I thought what Bill posted was true because...... I was happy to come to HT and celebrate with the people that worked hard for the President, the ones that posted info they had found that helped some chose who they thought would make the country better.

Lily, elly, eli, David, jillinnj, Kate, maddie, maggie and many others have shared links I did not know about that was great info. Facts..... you know not fantasy what they would like to be true. vgkg, gives me a giggle she is very creative with the words, Don runs through with some great info I wish he would drop by more.

Angry. I don't think so.

Like I said great subject Bill.

Does that include capers? Or are just buds? And--can one grow them in a large pot, on deck in summer and indoors in the winter (the way I do basil and rosemary)?

I use the dried green fruit of nasturtiums, fresh or pickled for a similar flavor.

You mean the immature seeds? Yer kiddin' me; they're so easy to come by...I eat the blossoms, but never contemplated eating the buds. That's awesome, wish it was September. Now I gotta trade for some "nasty" seeds to plant in the spring.

These are old metaphysical & theological ideas that come round & round & round again From Augustine to Calvin.

It's just a theological & metaphysical principle that gets dressed up in "the new age" every now & then. That new age is whenever it gets brought up again!
Emerson Lake & Palmer.

Course in Miracles says we are all teachers &what we teach others we are teaching ourselves so teach only love (Not the sappy kind)

There is a Theologian who stated

a God "who knows all possibilities, experiences novelty, and is willing to engage in an appropriate level of risk is more exalted than a God who faces an eternally settled future."
An eternally settled future is free of accidents!
"For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you." Mat 6

A universe without accident needs no forgiveness.
Forgiveness is a state that is not the petty your ideology/thoughts/customs/being clashed with mine so I'll let you off the hook just this one time because we will both feel better afterward.
Forgiveness in the non accidental universe says (the error was assuming there was something to forgive & that a mistake could have occurred in the first place)

Not being a theist & certainly when I was one not being a Calvinist I reject the idea of soul mates, angels in the flesh & intentional meddling in the Universe,.

These are old metaphysical & theological ideas that come round & round & round again From Augustine to Calvin.

To even rock & roll.
"Do you believe god makes you breath, how could he lose 6 million jews"

The Perfect Universe is a Universe is one of Omnipotence & sheer might & not the choice if you are a Christian to participate in crucifying Christ.
There is no lesson of The agony in the garden of Gethsemane or the freedom of Judas do what you have to!

All that said I can learn something from everyone even if it only to stay away from them!

I like going to Rare fruit society meetings, they have the best snacks.

Don, we have resurrected the CRFG chapter that includes Ventura and Santa Barbara Counties. Today's meeting had the highest attendance so far even though nothing was for sale. There is a real hunger for information about edible landscaping and for tricks to attain highest yield of food (and flowers) from relatively small spaces.

Hogwash.

Yes, we can learn from each other, but I believe it is by chance, and an open mind.

"Life is a game, you fly a paper plane, there is no aim." from an old song on the flip side of Get it together.

Thunderclap Newman - Accidents

I see Johnny in the middle of a roundabout, playing
In his hand was a paper aeroplane
Then I looked around
And he was gone
Am I to blame

I see Mary standing by the river side, waiting
She thinks the queen is coming by
Then I looked around
And she was gone
Why

(lalalalalalalala etc.)

There's a thousand answers that I don't know
I don't know
I know how

There's a thousand feelings that I can't show
I can't show
Just right now

I see Simon standing on the railway bridge, spotting
He's waiting there to see the fastest train
Then I looked around
And he was gone
Am I to blame

I see Jimmy climbing on the milkman's van, laughing�

Now Mary and Johnny are all together
And Simon and Jimmy are free
To touch anything and everything they see

I see Jimmy climbing on the milkman's van, laughing
On his feet were a pair of granddad's shoes
Then I looked around
And he was gone
Are we to lose

Life's just a game, you fly a paper plane, there is no aim (18x)

You never miss an opportunity to sh*t an a decent thread. Although that's MY belief, I never said a THING about God. I don't care if you think it's your fairy godmother, the flying spaghetti monster, or whatever. Nothing just "happens" by chance.

Don't get angry Bill. Remember, God arranged it.

-Ron-

I never said a THING about God I don't care if you think it's your fairy godmother, the flying spaghetti monster, or whatever. Nothing just "happens" by chance

You my not have meant to inject religious belief but it does sound like you are making an argument that circumstances are preordained by God. It is the same argument that Creationists make.

What if we had a giant picnic, and everyone here on HT attended without name tags? Except for Bill, I don't think there are pictures out there. Would be an interesting scenario. Could we figure it out? How long would it take with no hints?

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It wouldn't take long, I don't think.

Even if we didn't say a word.

Now, if we all had shaved heads and prison garb and couldn't say a word, it might take a little longer.

Not a lot longer.

And what a great picnic that would be, because we'd all be talking about gardening and sharing food. I'm in!

Glad to insert a few giggles here and there.

Oh I am so sorry. I do not know why I got the feeling of female. I know why.....the way you express a thought is a deep feeling impression in my mind. Not saying men are shallow just more surface thinkers and expression in my experience.

As I said that I know it sounds wrong but please do not take it as a insult. There is a saying "Get In Touch With Your Feminine Side." You do that well. lol

I think our names conjure up a face which may remind us of someone we knew/know with that name. My moniker however is from a little diminutive tortie cat I had who died two years ago. I wanted a female name simple with few letters.

This would be a great sociological experiment, but Batya is right, we'd end up talking about gardening which is why we all started on Garden Web in the first place. But the food would be outstanding!!

The name thing is interesting; I figured vgkg was a guy because well, duh "Veggie King". On the other hand I use Elvis (who was my Gordon Setter), and even though I tried to keep gender out of the conversation, somebody eventually dragged it in. It was interesting for the threads where I was bashed early on for my viewpoint as a "guy" who simply couldn't understand "a woman's point of view". That was fun.

Thanks Elvis for recognizing the full spelling, I've been called a lot of things posing as the shorthand version vgkg

ps, I think of a Mars Quest when I see your name so don't be sorry :) and I thought Hamiltongardener was a guy for several years, just due to Hamilton.

This venue gives so much license for different layers.
It would not be unrealistic to say some of us would have
some similiar traits.

I think the body and face image would be the surprise.
I laugh most all the time and I sometimes think I read
that personality in a few on here.

vgkg, Mars Quest that is why I like the name.......When I heard the name I thought of the Solar System.
My handle is my favorite professor's name that is a friend. We continue to stay in contact. But when I like someone I never severe contact. I still talk to and write the first boss I had when I graduated High school.

Good people should never just pass through your life, if they have value keep them close.

Yes; I was surprised. I thought marquest was an fussy old bachelor till "he" referred to "him"self as a mother ;D