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Radical Right

Posted by labrea 7NYC (My Page) on
Sat, Dec 1, 12 at 23:57

There they are again ye good olde radical right!
I've posted about them before in but I thought a Government slow to respond was worth reporting.
They say it can't happen here?

Here is a link that might be useful: Hungry


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Gyongyosi is a madman. What he is up to is too creepy for words. I think if I was a Romanian Jew, I would emigrate sooner rather than later; sadly, history does repeat.

I visited "The Anne Frank House" in Amsterdam a few years ago; a visit there makes the Holocaust very, very real.


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  • Posted by batya Israel north 8-9-10 (My Page) on
    Sun, Dec 2, 12 at 10:55

My, what a refreshing article. Good to know those ol' time values are still with us, and that we have nothing to fear, unless of course they hold Israeli passports.

And, just as an aside, I wonder how many radical right Americans hold similarly abhorrent views, but hold them very, very quietly?


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"I wonder how many radical right Americans hold similarly abhorrent views, but hold them very, very quietly?"

Batya, this sort of thinking is on a very personal level. I truly believe that it has little to do with partisan politics on any level, in any nation. Anti-Semitism is a despicable, "heart of darkness" monster that people, not parties, carry in their sadly misguided hearts.

Please do not go to that partisan political place with this issue.


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Pretty despicable stuff.

"And, just as an aside, I wonder how many radical right Americans hold similarly abhorrent views, but hold them very, very quietly?"

I would imagine considerably less than the number of Jews in Israel holding similar attitudes toward the Palestinians in their midst.

I don't know, of course, and I'd love to hear otherwise.

Pretty despicable stuff.

Hay


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Right Left. They're all extreme.

Radical Right?

I thought it's the Radical Right in this country that wants to bomb Iran to oblivion. Helping out the Israelis in the process. People like Romney, McCain.

And I've been led to believe that some of the most Radical Religious elements in the Republican party are staunch defenders of Israel. No?

Meanwhile down at the Occupy gathering. Radical Right?

Despicable stuff.

Hay


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I wonder about the accuracy about that "humanity" claim in the "poster."

That guy doesn't look like he's operating on all cylinders.

Suppose he's ever done dope?

Yea, I know.
It's stereotyping.


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Venezuela. Radical Right?

(We can always count on Chavez.)

"By November 2010, more than half of Jewish Venezuelans had left the country since Chavez came to power, with some of those remaining behind complaining of "official antisemitism.

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In its 2004 annual report, the Roth Institute said the Sephardic Tiferet Israel Synagogue was repeatedly attacked after a government-sponsored rally on May 16 in which the slogans "Don't allow Colombia to be the Israel of Latin America", "Sharon is a murderer of the Palestinian People", "Viva the armed Palestinian people", and "Free Palestine" were written on city walls.

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The pro-government newspaper VEA accused Jewish leaders of participating in the Venezuelan coup attempt of 2002.[20] The U.S. State Department and the Roth Institute reported graffiti with slogans like "Jews go home", were carved into synagogues after a 2004 government-sponsored rally, signed by the Communist Youth and the Communist Party of Venezuela.

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The U.S. Department of State said, in its 2005 report on International Religious Freedom, that Venezuela is a "historically open society without significant anti-Semitism; however, the Government and its supporters occasionally demonstrated possible anti-Semitism"

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In fact, at the time of the raid, Chavez was visiting Iran for discussions....

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The Weisenthal Center criticized as anti-Semitic statements made by Chavez during a celebration of Christmas 2005, at a rehabilitation center.[30] Referring to the December 2005 speech, the Miami Herald said, "It's not the first time Chavez has made comments deemed anti-Semitic. In 2005, he attacked 'some minorities, the descendants of the people who crucified Christ, [who] seized the riches of the world'."[31] Chavez stated that "[t]he world is for all of us, then, but it so happens that a minority, the descendants of the same ones that crucified Christ,...

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In a nationally televised speech, Chavez accused the Wiesenthal Center of working with Washington. "It's part of the imperialist campaign", Chavez said, according to the JTA. "It's part of this political battle."[34] The Wiesenthal Center's representative in Latin America replied that Chavez's mention of Christ-killers was "ambiguous at best" and that the "decision to criticize Chavez had been taken after careful consideration"

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Radical Right?

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Cuba. USSR.

Next stop: Cuba. Radical Right.

"...about 1,500 Jews who live in Cuba; 1,100 reside in Havana, and the remaining 400 are spread among the provinces. There is no rabbi living on the island, and there is only one kosher butcher. This small Jewish presence is in stark contrast to the bustling community that existed before Fidel Castro came to power in 1959. In those days, there were 15,000 Jews and five synagogues in Havana alone. "

Then, there's the USSR...

But I'm hungry so that'll have to wait.

Hay


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I wonder about the accuracy about that "humanity" claim in the "poster."

That guy doesn't look like he's operating on all cylinders.

Suppose he's ever done dope?

Judgemental much?

Amazing you make so many assumptions based on his looks.

Assumptions...something you are always telling people not to make about you.


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"Amazing you make so many assumptions based on his looks."

To me, he looks like a typical Wall Street Banker heading down to work.

What does he look like to you, Jillinnj?

Good Brunch:

Slice of Peasant Bread, thick layer of tomato paste, sliced hardboiled egg, all smothered with a few tablespoons of a mix of olive oil, lemon juice, turmeric and ground mustard, topped with cheddar cheese and into the oven.

It's become my breakfast meal of choice for a long while now.

Work time.

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Attack, attack and then attack again .

Attack, attack, attack. Fun, fun, fun.

One of these is a photo of a Wall Street Banker. One is from Occupy.

I bet you get it right the first time.

Try not to be judgmental.

Hay


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Let me know if you need a hint.

I'll be back after I do some work. I'm running out of excuses not to do what needs to be done.

Hay


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  • Posted by ohiomom 3rdrockfromthesun (My Page) on
    Sun, Dec 2, 12 at 15:20

I am sure if I was so inclined that I could find pictures of "weirdos" to post from the tea party movement, but that is not my thing.

Here are some more scary, druggy looking hippies ... but what in the world are they doing ??? Very short clip, which I am sure some will click on and others will reject especially if it does not fit their agenda.

Here is a link that might be useful: Occupy


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What does he look like to you, Jillinnj?

Don't know. I don't decide what someone is or does based on how they look. I certainly don't question their humanity or assume that they've done drugs.


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...and I don't lecture people to not make assumptions about me while I make assumptions about others.


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Talk about knee-jerk reactions ;D

Playful, naughty Demi!


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"does not fit their agenda."

That's what this thread is all about.

Everybody can join it!!!!

Hay


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Hint time?

"I don't decide what someone is or does based on how they look."

So, you need a hint about who is the banker and who is from Occupy in my two pictures?

Miss Non Judgmental.

Hay


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I see I've stimulated HAY good! He likes the street theater shots!
44 Seats in Hungary's Parliament were captured by the extreme right & their anti Gypsy, Anti Semitic screed.

Here's some of their Berlin Brethren!

Here are some of the same crowd in Germany the NDP in Germany

Here is a link that might be useful: Look to the East


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Hay - sorry, but I'm not interested in playing your silly game. Yes, I could make an educated guess, but that's not the point. The point is I don't make any assumptions about either one of them, especially about their humanity or lack there of. Nor do I assume which one has done drugs in their past.

If that's what you do, ok. But to do that and then complain about others making assumptions about you is hypocritical.

(note: edited to fix spelling of hypocritical. Did not remove anything from the post :-) Thanks Hay!)

This post was edited by jillinnj on Sun, Dec 2, 12 at 16:37


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Ratz! And I would have guessed the sartorially resplendent drummer - even the fellow wearing his mom's drapes. Bet any one of the four pictured could run up and tank a stock with the same skill.

I'm being judgmental. LOL


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Miss Non Judgmental.

"But to do that and then complain about others making assumptions about you is hpocritical."

You also misspelled hypocritical.

I know you like to make sure we all use proper English.

Personally, I could care less.

I'll play your silly games if you'll play mine.

Hay


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Thanks to the new edit feature, I edited my post to fix spelling of hypocritical. Thanks for pointing that out, Hay, and glad to know you care because you could care less.


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That guy doesn't look like he's operating on all cylinders.
Suppose he's ever done dope?
Yea, I know.
It's stereotyping.

So Demi, stereotyping is now ok in your book? Ironic coming from you since you take such umbrage when you feel posters stereotype people from the south as being bigoted and ignorant. Another shining example of your "do as you say not as you do".

So is it ok to stereotype or not? You can't have it both ways.

Next stop: Cuba. Radical Right.
"...about 1,500 Jews who live in Cuba; 1,100 reside in Havana, and the remaining 400 are spread among the provinces. There is no rabbi living on the island, and there is only one kosher butcher. This small Jewish presence is in stark contrast to the bustling community that existed before Fidel Castro came to power in 1959. In those days, there were 15,000 Jews and five synagogues in Havana alone. "

From Hay's own source (linked)
Claudia is one of about 1,500 Jews who live in Cuba; 1,100 reside in Havana, and the remaining 400 are spread among the provinces. There is no rabbi living on the island, and there is only one kosher butcher. This small Jewish presence is in stark contrast to the bustling community that existed before Fidel Castro came to power in 1959. In those days, there were 15,000 Jews and five synagogues in Havana alone. Still, Jews in modern-day Cuba manage to keep their culture and traditions alive.
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After Mr. Castro took power and nationalized private business and property, 90 percent of the Jewish population, many of them business owners, fled the island, and the remaining 10 percent were largely not observant. There were so few Jewish people coming to pray that the Cuban minyan was born, counting each Torah as a qualifying member to make prayer possible (a minyan normally requires 10 Jewish adults).

The Jewish presence continued to fade for years, and it was not until 1992, after the fall of the Soviet Union, that Cuba changed its constitution, allowing for religious freedom. The Jewish community began to rebuild. Rabbis from Chile, Argentina, Panama and Mexico came to teach the remaining Cuban Jews how to pray and lead services, and Jewish organizations in Canada began sending kosher food for Passover.
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Although preserving Jewish culture has been an uphill struggle, leaders remain optimistic about the future. Even though Israel is the only country with which Cuba has cut off diplomatic relations, there is no evidence of anti-Semitism in Cuba. "I felt safer wearing my yarmulke in Cuba than I do wearing one in White Plains," said Jeffrey Segelman, the rabbi of the Westchester Jewish Center. And the island's Jewish presence remains solid.

And back in America...

Perhaps Art Jones of Illinios rings a bell for some. "As far as I'm concerned, the Holocaust is nothing more than an international extortion racket by the Jews," Jones said. "It's the blackest lie in history. Millions of dollars are being made by Jews telling this tale of woe and misfortune in books, movies, plays and TV.
"The more survivors, the more lies that are told.".

He ran for Congress in Illinois. He lost but did get 11% of the votes.

And then there was the GOP's Facebook problem.
The GOP's Facebook Anti-Semites

Several avowedly anti-Semitic commenters regularly posted on the national GOP's Facebook wall, encouraging tea partiers and "White, Black, Spanish, [and] Asian" people to "arm yourselves" and rise up against the "Zionist Jews" who, they claim, control the country and the media. They linked to a site that hosts purported versions of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and promoted 9/11 "truth" theories that allege "Israeli agents carried out the attacks."

The RNC could easily have deleted these comments - it's as easy as clicking "remove" if an administrator is signed in to the account,or blocked the users who were posting them. Even if the RNC decided it didn't have the resources to monitor its Facebook wall, it could have simply disabled the ability to comment on its wall. When Mother Jones contacted the committee for comment Thursday morning, the RNC disabled its Facebook discussion board, but not its wall containing the anti-Semitic comments. When a Mother Jones reporter explained the difference between a Facebook discussion board and a wall, RNC spokesman Doug Heye promised the wall "will be down shortly." (UPDATE, July 30: The comments have been removed, but the wall is still up.) "We're interested in a civil debate, and any rhetoric or language that is out of bounds is not something we're interested in hosting and not something we're interested in hearing," Heye said. "We have decided we are better off closing down our discussion page." That's what Organizing for America has done with Barack Obama's Facebook page. (The White House's wall, however, is still live.) But until it was contacted by Mother Jones, the RNC allowed commenting to continue unabated-and apparently unmoderated.
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Kevin Anderson, a Californian Facebook user who describes himself as a "staunch Republican," alerted Mother Jones to the comments. Anderson says he was banned from commenting on the RNC's Facebook page after he complained about the anti-Semitic comments to committee officials. He claims that "hooked nose" style photos initially accompanied the posts. Those photos were removed when he first threatened to contact the press, he says.
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"While I don't think this indicates anti-Semitism among the GOP leadership," Anderson writes. "I feel it indicates that there is a certain laxity among GOP workers in removing anti-Semitic screeds from GOP sounding boards. However, as this is an OFFICIAL GOP sounding board sponsored by the Republican National Committee and moderated by GOP employees. I think you might have room to indicate certain biases among the workers at the GOP and indicate an ethical climate of its official party organs."
This isn't the first time the RNC has gotten in trouble for the content of its Facebook page. Last October, it kept a number of racist pictures of Obama (including one saying "miscegenation is a crime against American values") on its page for nearly a week before removing them.

Screen shots of the RNC posts follow below. You can also look at a large (11.7 MB) PDF of the posts from the month of July.

Here is a link that might be useful: Hay's source re: Cuba


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".... glad to know you care because you could care less."

Yeah, right. Whatever you say.

Now I need to work. I'll be back.

Hay


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Oh, Epi's here!

We've almost got a quorum now.

I've done my job. Adios.

Hay


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He asked for forgiveness from his Jewish fellow citizens for the misunderstanding.

I think that his Jewish fellow citizens understood perfectly what his meaning was.

I'll have plenty of smelling salts and fainting couches ready should either Hay or Demi visit Venice, CA. The drummer and his friends pictured above are part of our 'normal' - as is the Sikh who plays electric guitar while skating on the boardwalk. Hay and Demi can try a poetry reading at Beyond Baroque to broaden their perception of those living here. Too bad the socialist-run bookstore is no longer around.


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Posted by elvis 4b WI (My Page) on
Sun, Dec 2, 12 at 15:40

Talk about knee-jerk reactions ;D

Playful, naughty Demi!

*

:)

If you can't beat them, join them, admit you've joined them, then watch them call you a hypocrite because you have become one of them!

Mild theatre, ya think?

Hay--I had no problem at all identifying the Occupy protester and the Wall Street Banker.

I guess I used stereotypes to arrive at the answer.

Actually, I used my eyes!


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The banker dude looks like Pee Wee Herman. Given my druthers , I'd much rather hang with the dreadlocks guy.


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You can tell when you have him there are these bomber strikes of multiple posts. I thought you were a libertarian?


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"You can tell when you have him there are these bomber strikes of multiple posts. I thought you were a libertarian?"

Lazinarian.

When I've got work to do and I can't get motivated to do it, I come here and find one of your threads. Always good material to work with.

I suspect that this forum is just full of us Lazinarians. It's not just you and me anymore.

Hay


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I'm afraid that I won't be able to spend as much time with you today or tomorrow. Deadlines. Even Lazinarians have them.

Just to recap:

Labrea tries to tie in the word RIGHT with the Nasties.

Batya catches the ball and runs with it.

Demi posts.

Jillinnj attacks.

Hay loves Chavez.

Hay loves Occupy.

Ohio loves Hay.

Miss Non Judgmental loves being judgemental.

(She also can't spell. Is it judgmental or judgemental?

"Answer

Judgmental is the correct spelling."

Grammar Nazi Logo:

Where was I?

Oh, yeah.

Epi posts.

Hay reads one line and takes a nap. Works like a charm.

Nancy makes no sense at all.

(Hay loves the street people!!! Lazinarians after my own heart. If I come to Venice, can we go dancing? Maybe skip the poetry reading?)

Demi makes one last effort.

Where's Marquest?

And Lily chooses the dirty hippy over the Jewish Banker.

It all ties in very nicely.

Good thread, Labrea!

I'm ready to work now.

Hay


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Beerslugs on the brain!


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Nancy, LOL.
"Nancy makes no sense."
Hay, the resident HT score-keeper.


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Maybe stopping to post long debunked lies will help to regain some of the credibility.

That guy with the Jews-this-Jews-that sign has been trolling the Financial District long before OWS appeared on the scene. But then we all know that.


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"That guy with the Jews-this-Jews-that sign has been trolling the Financial District long before OWS appeared on the scene. But then we all know that."

How would "everybody" know that? I don't know that. You know this guy?


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Gotta admit, I'm LMAO reading this.

Hay, as annoying as you are, I feel I must recognise the theatre master. I bow to the puppeteer. Brilliantly played.


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