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Twin peduncles?

Posted by gabro14 6 (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 7, 07 at 0:05

Hi all,

So I've had these "twin peduncles" on my kentiana, and I was really excited to watch them open together. But I just noticed that the buds on one peduncle were starting to open, and when I touched it, all the buds on the other just fell off.

I'm wondering if that's normal bud blast or if it's a "twin" thing. Funny, because I'm a twin myself, and I know all about fighting for the spotlight! So maybe that's what happened with these twins. Could one have sucked out all the energy of the other? Maybe I'm thinking too deeply into it (time to see my therapist), and it was just regular bud blast....but I don't know why it would happen to one and not the other. Anyone ever have twin peduncles? Anyone care to share your opinion on this twin phenomenon?

Here is a pic that was taken about a week ago of the "twins":

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And a pic of the lonely twin taken tonight:

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Another pic (from below) of the twins taken a week ago:

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And the lone twin starting to open it's buds:

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I guess the "twin" sister had to sacrifice herself for her sister to bloom...how bittersweet :)


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RE: Twin peduncles?

I remember seeing the original post, that is two bad, that would have been so cool, but on an up note, I would think the next time it blooms, it will again attempt a set......possibly next time. Even so, your hoya is absolutely gorgeous. Your picture of the hoya opening is stunning. Sorry to go off topic, but what kind of cam do you have to pics that close, i am shopping around for a new one, and that is the type of picture I want to be able to take.

Sorry I cant help you, I am only on my first hoya and still seeking advice.....lol, but I had to say "Marvelous" pictures!!

Tracy


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Aw, poor you! I know you were excited about these. MAybe you are right about the one taking away from the other.


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Thanks...I was definitely excited about them :(
Oh well - I'm sure it will be twice as beautiful :)
I'm wondering if it's the same as 2 peduncles on one stem (which I see a lot of on my lacunosa). If that were the case, it was just bud blast. But it still has me wondering because I have a bunch of other umbels that are ready to pop open, and they are doing fine....it was only the "twin" that blasted. Hmmmm...

Tracy, thanks for the commenting on my plant (and pics). It does give such cute blooms. Your hoya is gorgeous too, by the way. Those blooms are incredible! Anyway, the camera I use (not off topic at all by the way) is a Sony Cybershot, 6.0 megapixels. Love it.


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Well, unfortunately the other "twin" blasted its buds a few days ago :(
But I was quite happy when I got home today to another open umbel on kentiana. They are such cute little blooms!

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BOTH twins didn't make it? Aw, that's too bad. Sometimes these "freaks of nature" just aren't meant to be...

ps - no insult intended to any twins out there who think I am calling them freaks of nature


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I know, I wonder why both twins wouldn't make it. I agree...it must've been some sort of freak of nature. I'll see what happens next time around.
And even though I'm a twin, I take no offense to that comment, being that I already KNOW I'm a freak of nature :P


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Well, even though my twins didn't make it, my kentiana is blooming profusely right now! You can see umbels open on top of the hoya and at the bottom, and there are a bunch more that are close to opening. I just love these blooms!

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Wow, very attractive plant. I have one of these that I bought last year in a kind of sickly condition, though it has recovered, it has yet to really take off. Yours is beautiful.


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Oh, so cool! This is what I have to look forward too? I've not been growing hoyas that long so mine are on the young side. You have more blooms on one plant that I have had all together!


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Well I can't take all the credit...somehow I actually found a HEALTHY EA plant :)


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looks like it is getting excellent light too.


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My whole apartment has east-facing windows...I think that's a great direction for hoyas. The kentiana is in my bedroom (right next to my obovata, which has not yet learned from its neighbor how to bloom!), and that whole east wall of my bedroom is wall to wall, ceiling to floor windows. I just love all that sun! My living room isn't ceiling to floor windows, but it's wall to wall, which does the job for my living room plants. I was renting a very dark basement apartment before I bought this apartment, and I was only able to keep a ponytail palm and some bamboo alive in there. So I am loving all these windows now!


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I would have hated your apartment back in my "partying" days...especially in the morning. Now I'd love it, sounds like my shore place, not a tree around, bright light everywhere...

Now I may as well be in a basement. Not only are there tons of trees, the house also has a four foot eve type overhang all around the outside, so every window is not only not getting much light due to trees, but is in the shade of these overhangs. I have one sliding glass door - northeastern exposure - that gets decent light for most of the day, the rest maybe get an hour of direct sun a day, at different times depending on exposure. It's a real drag for the plants, I rotate them constantly so they all have a chance at the slider, but the carnosas I leave in the bedroom windows, they seem to be ok with the lower light. I also have artificial lights under the cabinets and a few spot lights here and there. It is a real pain but I manage. I also have a few outside, but the squirrels mess with them and the one spot that the squirrels can't bother them is the one spot that has NO shade at all, and that area is too hot, too scorching for hoyas....I can't win! Just looking forward to that greenhouse!!


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Well, I still have some partying left in me, and believe me, those blinds are CLOSED on those "morning afters"...well at least the bedroom ones are, since that's where I spend most of the day!

I hear ya on the greenhouse!! My first actual "house" MUST have a sun room, or I'm buying a greenhouse. Or maybe both!

It's too bad you have all that shade now...but at least you give all your hoyas a fair turn at the sun. You must've loved living on the shore. I've been pretty close to there, but never actually been there. But I deal with all the Jersey shore traffic when I head that way this time of year! I frequently go camping to a place near the Jersey shore (I'll be going there in July)...it's called Cedar Creek Campgrounds and it's in Bayville (in Ocean County)...ever hear of it or of the town?


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I know exactly where that is, and I know Bayville very well. I have a friend there. I worked a few towns south, in Waretown, and lived only a few more miles down the parkway ( or Rte 9 ) in Beach Haven West, which is in Manahawkin. I live about about 50 minutes west of there now, I grew up in this area. When I lived down there I lived in several different towns on Long Beach Island and then in Manahawkin. I miss it alot but I decided to go back to school and while I am doing so, I need to be somewhere cheaper and closer to the school. But if I am going to stay here in NJ, I have to be near the water, nothing beats living by the ocean or bay, it is heaven!

I am going camping on Thursday, we were going to go to the Sea Pirate campground just south of Manahawkin on Rt 9, but decided on someplace closer near here, in the pines, Atsion Lake. I am hoping it cools off a bit, or at least that the area isn't overrun with those nasty gypsy moths, they have been really bad around here lately.


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I've never heard of any of those places in NJ! I only go to the few towns that my friends live in. I'm actually heading down to Teaneck (or Teanack?) on Thursday to go see a band I love (the place is called Mexicali Blues). Funny that you know Bayville...I thought it was too small of a town for anyone to know, even someone from Jersey.

I used to live in Long Beach (in Long Island), and I absolutely loved living on the beach. You're right, nothing beats it.

Sea Pirate campground sounds pretty cool...I'll have to look into that one for our next camping trip. But we just love the one in Bayville...it has a red creek (hence the name "cedar creek"), and it's just a really nice campground with lots to do. And the creek is always cold, so in the dead of summer it's really nice to be able to cool off. You should try it out sometime...you're much closer to it than I am (it takes me about 2 hours or so to get there). Well, have fun on your camping trip :)


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Can I jump in here (OT from twin peduncles)?

That's why I live where I live in Bklyn, am 3 blocks from the beach, have a bay (Sheepshead Bay) & a park in front of my house. The beach was finally nice this wknd, water warming enough to swim. I had a lovely swim at 6:30 pm, didn't want to come out at all; was just perfect! Am certainly w/ you folks in spirit abt living on or near the beach, just can't beat it!

Just as nice, I have all western exposures, my Hoyas all love the light, I could use more windows, but those that I have bring oodles of light (I have to lower the blinds on summer mornings lest the place roast while I'm a way at work)!


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Even tho it does, you never think of Brooklyn as having a beach!

You have to keep in mind that NJ isn't that big, I grew up in the center of Burlington County, about a 15 minute drive to the Ocean County border.

I have canoed Cedar Creek, it also runs west- or is it nrthwest?- into Double Trouble State Park, not far from Bayville, but on the other side of the parkway. Nice clean stretch of water, so many beautiful spots along it...If you like animals, Gabi, you could go south on Rte 9 to Forked River, whick is the next town south of Bayville, and go to Popcorn Park. It is a zoo that is sort of a shelter as well, they take in unwanted or problem zoo animals from all over. Have the same as regular zoos, maybe a bit smaller, but a nice setting in the pine barrens and a great little morning daytrip when you are in the area. They also have alot of exotic pets that people abandoned for one reason or another, like reptiles and pot bellied pigs and a whole aviary full of cockatiels. I used to go there alot, it is a nice, laidback place. Not too expensive ( the Philadelphia Zoo is I think $18 now! ) Popcorn Park is also a vet clinic and shelter for dogs and cats. They probably have a website.

All you people with sunny windows make me jealous...my poor plants, I definately don't have as much blooming going on here.


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  • Posted by txmom North Texas (My Page) on
    Sat, Jun 23, 07 at 23:50

The kentiana looks so healthy! Mine is droopy and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Maybe it needs fertilizer - VF 11?
I'd love to see it bloom. I lost my 30 year old carnosa (that used to bloom profusely)recently - all I have left is one small cutting and a huge plant grown from one of it's cuttings that my sister owns (I have posted that picture under a couple of topics).
Advice on the kentiana?


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Is it "droopy" but still green? Do the leaves have a soft, mushy feel instead of being crisp? I have found that kentiana does not like to be overwatered, and I keep mine on the dry side, waiting for it to dry out before watering again. When it was too wet, it stayed soft and limp. Either that or you are not watering it enough, letting it stay dry for too long in between waterings.


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Could you post a pic, Txmom?
If it is unhealthy, I don't think you'd want to fertilize right now. But if it's just growing slow, then fertilizing may just give it that extra boost it needs. Aside from the watering questions that Ines asked (which could be the problem), how's your light situation? What type of soil? I'm guessing you know how to take care of hoyas if you had healthy blooming ones in the past. My last kentiana was very slow growing also, but not "droopy" like you described. I bought the one in the pics above at a garden center (I think in May), and it had one peduncle that I noticed. Then it just kept growing peduncles...there must be over 20 now. The plant was completely rootbound when I got it...that could be the reason it's blooming profusely. Like Ines, I let mine dry out completely before watering again. And if you read up higher in the post, you'll see my lighting info. That's pretty much it! Oh, and I use VF-11. Good luck, and if you can, try and post a pic.
Gabi


 
 

 

 


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