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Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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Posted by wrynsmom UT (My Page) on Wed, Jun 24, 09 at 21:56
| Okay, since there is no such thing as Hoya Green Leaf, I did look up what others said it could be. It is an EA plant (what was available). Another post said H. Lacunosa. It doesn't look anything like that!
So, I looked further. I've come up with two possibilities: H. bilobata or H. tsangii. Unfortunately, I can't find the same picture twice with the same name!!! I'll take a pic and post in an hour or two. And, thank you for your help, in advance.
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RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Okay, here's the link to my pictures . . . |
Here is a link that might be useful: Pictures of the unidentified hoya
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Your Hoya looks like Hoya DS-70 which is often called Hoya bilobata or Hoya tsangii but those are two distinct species in their own right although all three plants are members of the same Hoya section called Acanthostemma. The flowers of these species are all very similar and often have a sweet buttery caramel like scent. This is a small flowered species but it is a good grower and blooms frequently and with many flowers open at once. Mike |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Thanks so much, Mike. I was just about to post that I figured it out! I read that bilobata have smooth leaves and tsangii have velvety leaves. That means mine is a tsangii. Really like the plant alot. I just bought it today (about all I can find here are EA hoyas) at Lowe's. I check for root rot and to make sure it was rootbound before I purchased. Looked good . . .though it had been overwatered a bit. I'll let it be for a week or two to dry out, then transfer to a slightly larger pot that allows me to water from below. It does have new growth, so seems to be healthy. I also have an H. compacta, H. curtisii, H. kentiana and H. carnosa "Rubra" I would love to hear any suggestions you might have for me on caring for these plants. Thank you again for the information! |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| With EA hoyas, I leave it in the original pot (and soil), but take the bottom saucer off so that it dries out faster. The soil they use has wetting crystals and tends to stay very wet....not to mention that the big box stores overwater them. I've tried changing the soil in the past, and my plants have always died soon after. So I have learned to just work with their "muddy" soil. However, if you need to repot because of the hoya being too rootbound (which I consider to be NO soil left (or almost no soil left) in the pot...other than that, I leave it be), then I would just take it out and place it in a larger pot after filling it with more soil - but I'd make sure to keep the EA soil and not risk trying to replace it with your own mix....except for the new soil of course. That's just how I do it...everyone has their own method with these EA plants though. Good luck,
Gabi |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| What I did with the other two (H. compacta and H. carnosa "rubra") I left the root ball alone with the EA soil intact and surrounded it with a soil/perlite mixture in the new pot. Both have had quite a bit of new growth since then. They weren't drying out enough before. They aren't dead, yet, so I feel good about it! :) If something devastating happens to them . . . it was a learning experience! hahaha I will certainly let you all know how it works out with the repotting. (I don't think they'd fit in the old pots if I tried, at this point!) Several of my hoyas are just cuttings, though. But they seem to be growing . . . H. curtisii and H. kentiana. They have roots, so I put them in 1:1 soil/perlite mixture. Any suggestions on those? Thanks again! |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Hi Wrynsmom, Just for your information, apparently EA has changed their soil and just released it this spring...hopefully what you purchased is from their "new soil" and not something that was from their old shipment? Below is the article from Stemma Magazine(go to "talking with the experts") from an interview with the head grower of EA plants...if you scroll down to the beginning of page 10 you can read his answer to the question about their EA soil... I purchased an EA H.Lacunosa Snow Caps with their new soil and its dramatically improved from their old soil. Mine dries out in appx. 4 days, a lot faster than it used to take even here in FL. Congrats on your new Hoya and Good Luck!! |
Here is a link that might be useful: Stemma Online Magazine
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Hoya tsangii is a species that is not often seen offered and it is different than your plant. There was a mistake when a new Hoya was discovered and a mix up occurred with the names and has since stuck. Your plant is unnamed and has been assigned the name Hoya DS-70 it is not Hoya tsangii or bilobata even though that is what you see it called all over the internet. Here is a photo of my Hoya tsangii that I got as a cutting this spring. The flowers of this species are yellow and the leaves are smooth and succulent.
 http://www.hoyor.net/en/showspecies.php?id=57 Mike |
Here is a link that might be useful: A photo of somone else's Hoya tsangii's flowers
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Unfortunately, I think this is the old soil. It takes over a week to dry out, and one had mushrooms under the leaves! Still trying to get rid of those! Awesome, Mike! I'm glad you're here! I've just labeled mine as DS-70. And now, I have two more to confuse and amuse (went to Lowe's and got them half off). The larger hanging pot was listed as H. sulawesii and the small green was listed as a Rubra! I KNOW it's not a rubra. I just don't know what it is!  , 
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RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| The Hoya sp listed as Hoya sulawesii is Hoya brevialata the other one I am not sure. To me it looks like it could be Hoya heuscheliana or Hoya leytensis or another related species. It does appear to be one of the Hoyas from the Acanthostemma section so it will have small flowers similar to your other Hoyas. Your plants all look nice and healthy so hopefully you don't have long to wait for flowers, we can double check the ID's for you then. Mike |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| The first one is H. brevialata (some call it H. incurvula), and the second looks like it could be H. nummularioides, but it's hard to tell. Gabi |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Thank you, Gabi and Mike! I think a plant I bought three years ago might be H. nummularioides. Hmmmm . . . I'm REALLY gonna have to spend more than four hours a day researching these plants!!! And I will post pics as soon as I have flowers! Speaking of . . . my Aloe vera plant is growing a bloom stalk! In the house! Thanks again! Carolyn |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Carolyn a great place to learn about Hoyas is STEMMA Journal, an online only Hoya magazine. If you check the downloads area of the site you will find the issues as PDF files. Mike |
Here is a link that might be useful: STEMMA Journal
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Been checking out STEMMA. Very informative. Also, I agree . . .H. heuschkeliana. There is no other hoya that looks anything like it. Thanks for the info!!! Carolyn |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Hi, I agree about the first being incurvula (aka breviolata?). The 2nd I'm surprised about -- could it be a Dischidia rather than a Hoya? Oh Denise -- Madam Dischidia, are you around? |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| I thought about a Dischidia, also. I've looked at tons of pictures and discriptions of Hoya and Dischidia and I still don't really know! hahaha But it sure is fun to look!!!! The first is for sure breviolata, no doubt. The little one, I'll prolly just have to wait and see if it ever blooms for me. Won't this be an adventure!!! :) Carolyn |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Carolyn, Is the hoya in question (the second one) an EA hoya? If so, I don't think they have heuschkeliana on the market. I was under the impression that it was an EA hoya, and the only ones that come to mind, if that's the case, are H. nummularioides and H. picta. Good luck!
Gabi |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| My guess is the 2nd one is a Dischidia.,,,Debbie |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Debbie, Any guesses as to which Dischidia? It's driving me nuts trying to figure this one out!!! :) Thanks, everyone, for all your help, tips and tricks. Carolyn |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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So far, I've got three possibilities: D. litoralis, D. bengalensis and D. oiantha.
What do you think, Debbie? Carolyn |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| I don't know much about Dischidias but they seem to be quite difficult to ID unless they are a one of the more distinctive ones. You might want to take a look at the photos on Dischidia.com Mike |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Carolyn, Is this an EA plant? Gabi |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf' - 2
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| Also, you might want to take a look at this picture... I know NOTHING about dischidia, so I'm just guessing what it might be if it happened to be a hoya. Anywway, EA sells H. picta (and nummularioides) - which is why I was asking if it is an EA plant. Good luck finding out what it is,
Gabi |
Here is a link that might be useful: picta
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| For sure not D. oiantha, looks very different in color, I had it for a time. |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Well, Gabi, it had an EA tag in it, but was mislabeled. Not sure if it's really EA or not. Pretty sure, now, it's not a Hoya. The stems are the same color as the leaves and not at all woody in appearance or texture. I'm really leaning toward Dischidia bengalensis. Carolyn |
RE: Dischidia
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| I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT!!! D. geri!!! What do you think? |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| It certainly does resemble Dischidia sp Geri. Let us know if it flowers for you. Mike |
Here is a link that might be useful: Dischidia sp Geri
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| Thanks, Mike. I will certainly keep you updated! Carolyn |
RE: Just bought a 'Hoya Green Leaf'
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| I know it's not Dischidia bengalensis because I purchased this plant from dischidia.com and it looks nothing like the plant I received. I think you're right that the plant is D. geri. I think that dischidia bloom easier than hoya so you may not have long to wait to figure out what the plant is.
Mike |
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