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Some stinky Hoya relatives

mdahms1979
13 years ago

Well not many Hoyas in bloom right now other than a few that never seem to stop but we have all seen those before.

These are some of my Stapelias that are blooming right now. Stapelia is one genus of several that are all related to Hoyas and milkweeds. These plants are succulents and many have truly amazing flowers many of which stink like dung or carrion or some other putrid smell. The scent from the flowers is really only noticeable in the sun but you would probably not want to have a plant that is in full bloom on your sunny windowsill. These plants are very attractive to mealies so if you grow them you need to be very careful, a systemic will come in handy if you choose to use one.

Stapelia schinzii is a very attractive smaller species.


Stapelia leendertziae is another small species but it is different from other Stapelia species because of it's deep bell shaped flowers. The plant I have has flowers that barely open and in nature they would lie on the soil surface allowing insects to crawl inside. Other plants of this species have flowers that open more than my plant's but not much more.

Mike

Here is a link that might be useful: My Flickr set with other succulent Hoya relatives

Comments (25)

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    Jan Sword-Rossman Realty 239-470-6061
    13 years ago

    Mike, great photos! I had huge pot of lifesaver Stapelia but lost most of them to mealies. I think I have 3-4 left now. I also have red one, I forgot the name.
    Lifesaver.

  • greedygh0st
    13 years ago

    That Stapelia leendertziae is to die for - so cool and beautiful in a weird way.

    ...and Jan's 'lifesaver' Stapelia made me laugh out loud. Honestly, every time I see a photograph of a stapelia, my mood level rises 2 points. So, thanks guys, since I can't even begin to entertain the idea of growing my own! ^_^

  • mdahms1979
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    My explanation of the succulent Hoya relatives did not make much sense but I had meant to say that there are many different groups of plants in this group which is often referred to as the Stapeliads. Orbea, Caralluma, Huernia, Stapelia, Duvalia, Piaranthus, and the list goes on and on.

    Nice plant Jan, the name is Huernia zebrina. I had a really interesting Huernia species bloom for the first time last year, no blooms yet this year though.
    Huernia somalica

    GG don't be shy with the Stapeliads, the Huernias are easy to grow and many don't really stink. There is even a very attractive mini species, Stapelia flavopurpurea that smells like honey.

    Mike

    Here is a link that might be useful: a great photo site on Stapeliads

  • kellyknits
    13 years ago

    Oh! Love the Stapelias- especially the green flowered ones and the bell shapes! Thinking I may have to try a flavopurpurea - the flowers are dear!

    Great photos!

    Kelly

  • mdahms1979
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Thanks Kelly. I had a little Staplea flavopupurea but it seams to have all but died on me this year, not an easy plant for me to get in Canada but it is not hard to find from speciality nurseries in the U.S. You should give it a try, it's a tiny little thing and the flowers are just out of this world colourful.

    Mike

  • kellyknits
    13 years ago

    Should have one coming next week! Woo Hoo! Hoping it will have buds on it!

    Kelly

  • mdahms1979
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Shoal Creek Succulents carries a great selection but seems to be out of Stapelia species right now, they do have a Raphionacme sp available though and those are very cool Hoya relatives. Where did you end up ordering from?

    Congrats on the Stapleia Kelly!

    Mike

  • greedygh0st
    13 years ago

    flavopurpurea is cute! The best recommendation in this community is always going to be for small growing plants, I have to think. I really enjoyed the link you provided, too. It was like going to the zoo without leaving my office.

  • kellyknits
    13 years ago

    Mike,
    It's coming from TeeDee Cactus on eBay! The picture shows buds, so I'm hopeful! Should I keep this a little more dry than the hoyas?
    Thanks for linking your photos! This is a fun bunch of plants!
    Kelly

  • mdahms1979
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Kelly these plants need a whole different type of culture, send me a private email and I can give you some info. I rest my plants during the winter so they get almost no water, can't get much easier than that. The trick is knowing when you should not water these ones.

    The Stapeliads and Asclepiads group on Flickr is one of the best places to see great photos of these plants, including Hoyas so everyone check it out.

    Mike

    Here is a link that might be useful: Stapeliads and Asclepiads Group on Flickr

  • teisa
    13 years ago

    Thanks Mike for posting this information on stapelias. I have just recently found these interesting plants and had to have one. I ordered seeds from the Botanical Archive and just got them planted today. I ordered:
    Huernia pillansii
    Stapelia revoluta
    Stapelia variegata
    Stapelia grandiflora
    Stapelia revoluta
    Wisteria Sinensis Bonsai

    Have you tried to grow them from seeds? Thanks for the information!!

  • mdahms1979
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    I have grown these from seed many times. The best place to learn about Asclepiads is The International Asclepiad Society, they publish a very nice quarterly magazine and have a seed bank with rare species and very reasonable prices but it's for members only. Articles in the magazine cover the succulent species, Hoyas and other members of this botanical family. New species are often formally published in the magazine.

    You need to keep the seed quite warm and with bright light. Sow on the surface of the soil and then very lightly cover with some grit. You will have to artificially heat the seeds if it's cool in your area. Early summer is the best time to sow Stapeliad seeds. I keep the seeds covered usually in a plastic bag until the seedlings put on a little size. If you don't have success from seed don't worry it takes some practice. Don't sow all your seed at once and remember to keep the seeds warm and bright while germinating and over the winter. Small plants are fairly inexpensive and not too difficult to get from US succulent or specialty nurseries.

    Mike

    Here is a link that might be useful: International Asclepiad Society

  • karyn1
    13 years ago

    I just bought about 15 new asclepiads to add to my collection from Miles' to Go. Not only were most of the plants bigger then I expected, many were in bloom. Here's a few that are blooming now. The only one that's really smelly is the lutea.

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  • mdahms1979
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Very nice plants! The first photo, the Rhytidocaulon species is very nice. I lost my plant due to root mealies last winter and it will be very hard to find again. The stems just look like a shriveled dead twig, great camouflage against browsing animals.
    I was never able to bloom my Caralluma lutea, boy is it a nice looking plant, even if it stinks.

    Mike

  • quinnfyre
    13 years ago

    Can I ask how you grow yours, Mike? I have a mixed pot of huernias, that I know of, and I believe some stapelias as well. I got them as a bonus in a trade at first, then some more as an intentional trade, and I'd like to know how to keep them happy. Before it was kind of a 'not getting my hopes up' situation, but they stayed alive and in fact grew! I repotted the first ones into a shallow but larger diameter pot to accommodate some new cuttings, but then started getting some rotting, unfortunately. I cut off the rotted bits and let the ends dry, and started those ones over. But I haven't checked them since.

  • karyn1
    13 years ago

    I finally got a few minutes to look at your album. You have some fantastic varieties. I especially like the O. variegata, caralluma, Duvalia sulcata and S. erectiflora. I see you also have ceropegias. Do you have a difficult time finding them in Canada? It's taken me quite a while to find more then the common ones. I see so many interesting ones listed for sale in European nurseries but not much in the US.

  • mdahms1979
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Quinn the best advice I can give concerning the culture of these plants is to water when it's sunny and warm and to avoid water or wet conditions when it is gloomy or cold. During the winter rest plants in bright light and give sips of water every now and then but only on bright sunny days. Keep plants from getting rained on or at least from staying wet for days on end. I water and then let the potting mix dry and then water again during the summer. A mix of cactus soil plus grit or small gravel works, perlite or pumice also works well to keep the mix open and fast draining. Clay pots are great but plastic work just as well as long as the mix is fast draining. Bright light is best but some plants can grow under full sun. Many species grow under cover of shrubs or grasses but others grow right out in the open and they can endure very harsh conditions, wet and cold conditions are their main enemy, that and mealies.

    Karyn I get almost all of my plants including Stapeliads and Ceropegias from Paul Shirley Succulents in the Netherlands. I also grow many from seed which I get from the International Asclepiad Society seedbank or from other sources like Ebay. Ebay is a great place to find plants as well and many American sellers offer plants during the summer. You can find mixed Stapeliad seed packets at some US and European nurseries and they are great from starting a collection although you may get hybrids vs species.

    Mike

  • karyn1
    13 years ago

    The Int. Asclepiad Society is a good idea. I've browsed their site in the past but haven't joined. Maybe I should. I rarely see any ceropegias on Ebay that I don't already have and have. It figures that Paul Shirley doesn't want to mail product to the US. He has some nice varieties. I wonder what alternative shipping method he's talking about, FedEx or UPS? I can just imagine what the shipping charges would be for that.

  • kellyknits
    13 years ago

    Mike,
    Is there a list somewhere of stapeliads that don't smell rotten? Tried doing a search but haven't found one yet. There really are a good selection of stapeliads on ebay!
    Thanks!
    Kelly

  • mdahms1979
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Kelly very few smell good so it would be easiest to try for ones that have little smell. Some are notoriously stinky so they are fairly easy to avoid but I have never come across a list of the weak or non scented species.
    Even the stinky ones only smell when it's really hot, I just put mine outside when they bloom. The Huernias are often less stinky but the dark red coloured ones seem to smell the most. Duvalia is another stinky (dung)genus and most Stapelias smell like something died. Orbeanthus hardyi is one you might look for, really nice easy to grow plant and no bad scent.

    Orbeanthus hardyi

    Mike

  • karyn1
    13 years ago

    I think you're pretty safe with any of the small flowered varieties. I've never been overwhelmed by the smell even when a number of them are open. The larger flowers are another story but Mike's right, the smell is minimal when temps are cool. I have an S. gigantea with several blooms open. I've been avoiding the greenhouse thinking it would make me gag but it's cooled down here with evening temps in the upper 50's so I went in and was happily surprised not to really smell much of anything.

  • dmichael619
    13 years ago

    This is stapelia schinzii blooming today. It's only one of about a half dozen that I have left out of a collection that used to number around 75-80 plants.I have this plant growing in an 6" clay pot and is was almost 4 feet long but due to staying a bit too wet from all the rain we've had this summer some pieces of it rooted off.

  • mdahms1979
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    David your clone of schinzii is very nice, those prominent purple hairs really stand out compared to my plant's.

    Mike

  • dmichael619
    13 years ago

    Mike did you also notice that the corona is different between the two??? I've had this plant for a number of years but have no idea as to where it came from!!!!

  • mdahms1979
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Yes there are a few forms of this species, Stapelia schinzii and Stapelia schinzii var schnizii are the ones that come to mind. I don't know much about this species otherwise but it had been on my must have list for years before I tracked one down.

    Mike

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