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Dianthus x allwoodii Helen x D. knappii

Posted by Jeanne 6OH (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 3, 05 at 16:04

I'm hoping I have the nomenclature right, Helen was the pollen plant and D. knappii was the seed plant. I'm glad I didn't know how difficult it would be or I never would have tried it! Out of over 2 dozen crosses attempted, I had exactly one take, with a result of 5 seeds. Of the 5 seeds, only one germinated.

Only later did I read that D. knappii was a diploid as opposed to other Dianthus, which are hexaploid. So among my dozen or so D. knappii there must be a polyploid lurking.

I had rather hoped it would be either yellow or double (hopefully both), but turned out to be neither. The seedling is pink, it has a wonderful fragrance and is a rather petite plant. It might not be worthy of cultivar status but I'll certainly be keeping it.

Not only will I be crossing my entire stock of D. knappii this year to find which one is the polyploid, I'll also be growing the seeds of this cross, provided it makes any.

Here is a link that might be useful: Dianthus x allwoodii Helen x D. knappii


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RE: Dianthus x allwoodii Helen x D. knappii

Jeanne,

Congratulations. It's pretty.

Incompatibility between species is not always related to differences in chromosome number. It is possible to cross diploid and hexaploid roses, for instance. It may be that your hybrid is a tetraploid -- one set of chromosomes from D. knappii and 3 from 'Helen'.

It might be worthwhile pollinating your hybrid by 'Helen'.

Karl


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RE: Dianthus x allwoodii Helen x D. knappii

Thank you for the suggestion, Karl. I think I'll try that.


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RE: Dianthus x allwoodii Helen x D. knappii

Great one Jeanne. I've tried similar crosses myself and had little luck. Out of several pollinations, only two seeds ever grew. One died of misery and the other grew a small sickly plant that never flowered and eventually also died.

I've got some more knappii seedlings on the go now so am planning some more attempts this June.


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RE: Dianthus x allwoodii Helen x D. knappii

The cross of white Dianthus plumarius x D. knappii has been made in New Zealand and was successful. D. plumarius is a hexaploid (6n). The researchers found that D. knappii produces unreduced gametes, that is some of its pollen or ovules instead of having n chromosomes have 2n chromosomes. The chromosomes of the seedlings were counted and some were tetraploids (3n + 1n = 4n) and some were pentaploids (3n + 2n = 5n).

The seedlings from the cross with the white plumarius were pale cream-yellow with some differences in intensity. Twenty crosses were made and four seedlings produced. Because the researchers found self-pollinations in early crosses they emasculated the flowers for subsequent crosses. D. knappii was the pollen parent in all crosses.

As a possible interest not all Dianthus allwoodii are hexaploid - a chromosome count of D. allwoodii 'Doris' found it to be 4n.


 
 

 

 


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